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"In the end, the moral choice is the most pragmatic”

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     Events in Ukraine related to the failure of Putin's protégé of President Yanukovych to sign an agreement with the European Union, is a consequence of the immorality of the West against Russia. Growing serious problems and conflicts between the West and Russia stem from a general lack of understanding the mentality of the Russian people. The euphoria that Russia has chosen a democratic path, I think, will soon be replaced by a profound disappointment. Sovereign democracy as called Putin established regime in Russia, is nothing like democracy for the sovereign, in other words - totalitarianism. Partial collapse of the Evil Empire did not change its essence, and scolded Russia for what it invaded Georgia, participated in the aggression of Armenia against Azerbaijan, defended the dictator Assad or what tries to tear Transnistria from Moldova and Ukraine to split, so as futile as scold the wolf for what he pulled sheep.

   Mentality of the Russian people alien to the values of democracy. Democracy implies the active participation of the people in economic and political activities that Russia is nonsense. Lack of initiative of the people in a democracy led to the emergence of the oligarchs , so to speak not of Russian nationality and devoid of any sense of patriotism that people turned out for its complete impoverishment . Democracy tried to taste Russian people rejected it, preferring a dictatorship. Russian people need a king, dictator, General Secretary, the sovereign who decides everything for him, and which can then blame all the misfortunes. This important feature, as self-organization, is completely absent from the Russian people, and this fact can be traced throughout its history. The only thing I was capable Russian people on this ruthless, all destructive riot. Democracy and the mentality of the Russian people - are incompatible, that Putin understands that restored, had collapsed under Yeltsin, the power vertical. And all these presidential elections, governors, mayors have not, other than as a farce for razglyadevshy not in the "friend of Putin" cub, who grew up in a full-grown wolf.
   
   Great Russian chauvinism, which pointed out the father of all peoples Comrade. Stalin, in conjunction with the rejection of democracy presupposes only one thing - the empire. Only in the empire, plundering and exploiting other people, there may be the Russian people. Outside the empire, in a democracy, the Russian people lost. So Putin took was wayward, the course "back to the empire”.

    It is in this light, it is necessary to consider the resistance on the part of Russian Ukrainians desire to enter the European Union. Here the role played by two factors.
   First, Ukraine's accession to the EU, automatically assumes the further development of democracy, that Russian living in Ukraine is unacceptable for the reasons mentioned above.

   Second, with the entry of Ukraine into the EU, Moscow may finally give up the idea of the return of Ukraine in the empire, as in the case of the Baltic States.
   
    Using numerous Russian reluctance of Ukraine's population live in a democracy and separatist sentiments, Putin the pretext of protecting their rights can bring troops and split Ukraine, putting the West with a fait accompli. The main question is how the West is ready to swallow this bitter pill? Of course, the war will not start because of Ukraine, Putin is well aware, but what actions are likely to be followed by an economic nature, and whether they are terrible for Russia? Show the West integrity or surrender Ukraine as Chechnya passed, allowing Putin severely crack down on Chechen people? Or continue to continue to buy Russian energy, preferring a purely pragmatic approach, taking into account not just words Sakharov that the most pragmatic approach is moral. Here one thing is clear to Sochi Winter Olympics Russian invasion will not take on Ukraine not to repeat the failed Moscow Olympics in 1980. Therefore, the Ukrainians have to hurry with the entry into the EU until the end of the Sochi Olympics.

    However, the most interesting thing is that the connivance of the West, insolent, dare I say it, it impudent antics Putin will not end at this. The fact that the projected gas pipeline from the Caspian region to Europe bypassing Russia threatens to end Russia's monopoly on the delivery of hydrocarbons to Europe, which is tantamount to an economic disaster for the empire . The only possibility to prevent this Moscow undoubtedly sees the resumption of the glow of the Karabakh conflict. Yerevan is just waiting resolution Moscow to continue the annexation of Azerbaijani lands up to Baku, in accordance with the arbitrarily drawn by cartographers lzheistoricheskoy Armenian card " Great Armenia from sea to sea," and this despite the fact that no information about the Armenians in nature Sailor there is that, I believe, a big omission on the part of Armenian writers and historians like Zori Balayan. By the way, a failed military provocation by Russia in Georgia was designed to prevent the laying of pipes from Azerbaijan to Turkey via Georgia as the only possible way for this project. Given the fact that this time the war effort would be involved, Turkey - a NATO member and Russia as an ally of Armenia and Iran obviously - a strategic ally of Russia and Armenia in the region, it is not inconceivable that the war has the potential to result in a third the world.
   
    Undoubtedly, such a forecast and not likely due to the Ukrainian events, but is not it better to put in place Russia now than bring the matter to a terrible war. It is time for the West to understand the world's evil lies not in Tehran or Damascus, it is hidden behind the walls of the Kremlin. With the fall of the Berlin Wall, Russia has not changed, and it was enough to at least a little to recover, thanks to the help and favor of the West, as the problem resurfaced World - Russia . Again everything went as usual: building weapons, support of totalitarian regimes, until the transfer of nuclear arms in their clubs. Only the final complete disintegration of the colonial Russian Empire save the world community of the nuclear threat, and economic sanctions should be introduced not against Iran but against Russia, for
 
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July 11, 2017, 05:13:25 PM
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The problems in Ukraine were created by the Ukrainians themselves. Blaming Russia will not do any good. Look at how the living conditions have dropped after Poroshenko was elected as the president in 2014. The Hryvnia has been devaluated by almost 300%, and inflation is close to 30%.
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Europe has imported small-time swindlers-refugees from Africa and now is about to open the BIG Ukranian door for All organized criminals from Eastern Europe
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July 25, 2017, 10:33:05 AM
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The problems in Ukraine were created by the Ukrainians themselves. Blaming Russia will not do any good. Look at how the living conditions have dropped after Poroshenko was elected as the president in 2014. The Hryvnia has been devaluated by almost 300%, and inflation is close to 30%.

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July 25, 2017, 12:38:48 PM
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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.

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July 25, 2017, 01:19:05 PM
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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.
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July 25, 2017, 04:37:15 PM
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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.

It's very sad for all those who have and will die in this useless conflict.

The west isn't responsible for the corruption and cronism that ukraine officials and co worldwide do!!! It's like syria or turkey or all those third world country. New "president" is elected or take power and then only his family and allies benefit from it... look it's the son of assad who ruled syria. Results...

So yes russia should really embark on a chinese style war against corruption or doom looms...

How do you want to do space travel with corruption? Btw isn't the earth the best spacecraft?

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July 25, 2017, 04:47:05 PM
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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.

It's very sad for all those who have and will die in this useless conflict.

The west isn't responsible for the corruption and cronism that ukraine officials and co worldwide do!!! It's like syria or turkey or all those third world country. New "president" is elected or take power and then only his family and allies benefit from it... look it's the son of assad who ruled syria. Results...

So yes russia should really embark on a chinese style war against corruption or doom looms...

How do you want to do space travel with corruption? Btw isn't the earth the best spacecraft?

they just fuck them-selfs it is typical for third world
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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.

It's very sad for all those who have and will die in this useless conflict.

The west isn't responsible for the corruption and cronism that ukraine officials and co worldwide do!!! It's like syria or turkey or all those third world country. New "president" is elected or take power and then only his family and allies benefit from it... look it's the son of assad who ruled syria. Results...

So yes russia should really embark on a chinese style war against corruption or doom looms...

How do you want to do space travel with corruption? Btw isn't the earth the best spacecraft?

they just fuck them-selfs it is typical for third world

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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.

It's very sad for all those who have and will die in this useless conflict.

The west isn't responsible for the corruption and cronism that ukraine officials and co worldwide do!!! It's like syria or turkey or all those third world country. New "president" is elected or take power and then only his family and allies benefit from it... look it's the son of assad who ruled syria. Results...

So yes russia should really embark on a chinese style war against corruption or doom looms...

How do you want to do space travel with corruption? Btw isn't the earth the best spacecraft?
How can Russia fight corruption if it is headed by a corrupt chief? His entourage, too, corrupt officials and thieves. If he starts to fight them then they can remove him from power. He is very afraid and therefore will not do. How's the Russian saying Raven crow does not eat dog.
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How can Russia fight corruption if it is headed by a corrupt chief? His entourage, too, corrupt officials and thieves. If he starts to fight them then they can remove him from power. He is very afraid and therefore will not do. How's the Russian saying Raven crow does not eat dog.

I am not saying that Putin is an angel. But to his credit, he was the one who jailed some of the biggest thieves in Russia, such as Mikhail Khodorkovsky. A number of oligarchs had to flee Russia, with or without their ill-gotten wealth during his rule. I don't deny the fact that the lower rung officials in his own party are corrupt. But Putin himself is not tarnished by any allegations of corruption.
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The reality of Eastern Europe

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^^^ With the Ukrainians getting visa-free travel to the European Union, there is not going to be any shortage of Ukrainian prostitutes in countries such as the Netherlands, Germany and Italy. Ukraine is very much broke now. Perhaps the export of (male and female) sex workers can bring enough revenues, to keep the country together for a while.
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^^^ With the Ukrainians getting visa-free travel to the European Union, there is not going to be any shortage of Ukrainian prostitutes in countries such as the Netherlands, Germany and Italy. Ukraine is very much broke now. Perhaps the export of (male and female) sex workers can bring enough revenues, to keep the country together for a while.

yeap Ukranian AIDS pretty much uncurable
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August 22, 2017, 05:47:45 AM
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The problems in Ukraine were created by the Ukrainians themselves. Blaming Russia will not do any good. Look at how the living conditions have dropped after Poroshenko was elected as the president in 2014. The Hryvnia has been devaluated by almost 300%, and inflation is close to 30%.
Certainly, would be foolish to blame Russia in everything, but that this country supplies with a weapon to the terrorists on East of Ukraine is a fact. And so yes, Poroshenko and his company will take Ukraine to the very bad consequences.

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The problems in Ukraine were created by the Ukrainians themselves. Blaming Russia will not do any good. Look at how the living conditions have dropped after Poroshenko was elected as the president in 2014. The Hryvnia has been devaluated by almost 300%, and inflation is close to 30%.
Certainly, would be foolish to blame Russia in everything, but that this country supplies with a weapon to the terrorists on East of Ukraine is a fact. And so yes, Poroshenko and his company will take Ukraine to the very bad consequences.

Eastern Ukrainians are mostly Russian speaking and are pro-Russia in their political views. So the Russian support was only natural. But right now Poroshenko is using the conflict to hide the looting of Ukrainian wealth by his cronies.

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The problems in Ukraine were created by the Ukrainians themselves. Blaming Russia will not do any good. Look at how the living conditions have dropped after Poroshenko was elected as the president in 2014. The Hryvnia has been devaluated by almost 300%, and inflation is close to 30%.
Certainly, would be foolish to blame Russia in everything, but that this country supplies with a weapon to the terrorists on East of Ukraine is a fact. And so yes, Poroshenko and his company will take Ukraine to the very bad consequences.

Eastern Ukrainians are mostly Russian speaking and are pro-Russia in their political views. So the Russian support was only natural. But right now Poroshenko is using the conflict to hide the looting of Ukrainian wealth by his cronies.

The common people are already tired of the war. They do not want to be at enmity. Political leaders artificially support the military conflict. It seems to me that in that war several countries make big money. And people suffer

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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.

 After 5 years, your words turned out to be true.
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The West specifically provoked such a situation in Ukraine to quarrel with the fraternal people and the best way out of this situation is to join Ukraine to Russia.
Ukrainians no longer a fraternal nation for the Russian. You asked the Ukrainians whether they want to join Russia? So the brothers don't do that! Russians only think about their interests and therefore they are invaders.

 After 5 years, your words turned out to be true.

The mistake the West made was to assume that Soviet leadership just magically disappeared after 1991.

When I heard George W. Bush say that he looked into Putin's eyes and "saw his soul' I almost fell off my chair.

Many Western politicians still don't understand Soviet ideology, even today.

You should not be talking to Russia or signing any trading deals, you should be bombing Russia now.

There will be no peace in the world until Russia has a semi-functional army. This Soviet cancer needs to be eradicated as soon as possible.

Putin and his enablers need to be brought to Hague on genocide and war crimes charges.

We should not be trading or have any contact with Russian citizens. All Russian citizens' assets in the West need to be confiscated. Any Russian living in the West who supports Russia need to be stripped of their assets and residency/western citizenship and sent back to Russia.

Eradicate this cancer from your western societies.

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