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July 11, 2017, 05:24:07 PM
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https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/65#issuecomment-314221337

Developers are so incompetent that they propose a secret testnet, so it doesn't get attacked.

Fantastic! Just like Buggy Unlimited clowns resorted to closed source development to get a patch out, now these morons want to do closed source testing, for a totally realistic and robust test only to hardfork in a matter of a few months.

Anyone supporting this mess is losing it or is being paid to do so.

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July 11, 2017, 05:46:08 PM
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He is trying to do 10 men's job by himself. Of course his code is going to fail. That's not about Garzik's coding abilities. It is physics and he is not superman.

On one side, we have a team of talented devs from core which is proven by time and on the other side, there is only one dev. They expect us to trust +40B$ company's future to one guy?

No thx, offer refused.
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July 11, 2017, 05:46:38 PM
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Segwit is poison to bitcoin and needs to be avoided at all costs in any implementation. Boycott the Blockstream/Core bitcoin takeover attempt with segwit to turn bitcoin into a banking settlement system. Every true bitcoiner should support Satoshis vision by supporting Bitcoin ABC http://www.bitcoinabc.org

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July 11, 2017, 05:56:16 PM
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If they only started their SegWit2x plan a few months ago, they could've definitely test it properly and succeed eventually into activating it because they have the required hash power but they are not going anywhere with a buggy software.

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July 11, 2017, 05:59:42 PM
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Segwit is poison to bitcoin and needs to be avoided at all costs in any implementation. Boycott the Blockstream/Core bitcoin takeover attempt with segwit to turn bitcoin into a banking settlement system. Every true bitcoiner should support Satoshis vision by supporting Bitcoin ABC http://www.bitcoinabc.org


It's funny how everyone shilling their implementation claims to be "satoshi's vision".

"Support XT, it's satoshi's vision"

"Support Classic, it's satoshi's vision"

"Support Unlimited, it's satoshi's vision"

Give me a break. Satoshi didn't foresee a lot of things we are experiencing now so "satoshi's vision" (whatever that is) is irrelevant with 2017's data.

If they only started their SegWit2x plan a few months ago, they could've definitely test it properly and succeed eventually into activating it because they have the required hash power but they are not going anywhere with a buggy software.

A hardfork requires an entire year AT LEAST of preparation. Jeff Garzik is on crazy pills or is on Bitmain money.

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July 11, 2017, 07:17:33 PM
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"satoshi's vision"

Forum's common big blocker retard:

-I am satoshi's dick weed, without me he can't grow weed on his dick.

These clowns can be body parts of satoshi but none has his vision. That's for sure.  Cool
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July 11, 2017, 07:26:42 PM
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"satoshi's vision"

Forum's common big blocker retard:

-I am satoshi's dick weed, without me he can't grow weed on his dick.

These clowns can be body parts of satoshi but none has his vision. That's for sure.  Cool


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July 11, 2017, 08:08:29 PM
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You guys are all dickheads. Instead of trying to resolve Bitcoins issues together you just want to sit back and moan and criticise others work. Look what you've done to Bitcoins price. Well done you. Here's a cookie.  Roll Eyes

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July 11, 2017, 09:02:29 PM
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https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/65#issuecomment-314221337

Developers are so incompetent that they propose a secret testnet, so it doesn't get attacked.

Fantastic! Just like Buggy Unlimited clowns resorted to closed source development to get a patch out, now these morons want to do closed source testing, for a totally realistic and robust test only to hardfork in a matter of a few months.

Anyone supporting this mess is losing it or is being paid to do so.

I wonder what the big-block crowd imagines is going to happen if they keep plowing forward. Do they really think keeping their code in some kind of safe kindergarten sandbox is the way to prepare it for deployment? That there are not hordes of drooling hackers waiting to tear into it and wreak havoc if it were imposed on Bitcoin?

I tend to envision the security situation with Bitcoin as being like the Battle of Helms Deep in the movie The Two Towers. Bitcoin has been under ferocious assault from hackers since it became worthwhile to target. If they aren't ready to cope with that then they have no business developing software and then expecting the rest of us to place our trust in it.

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July 11, 2017, 09:08:17 PM
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These things make the bitcoin value change. And they already start having issues in something that they want to implement. They should have done a vast test before just going out with problems still to be solved
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July 11, 2017, 09:10:28 PM
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Garzik is probably the best and most "head on straight" Bitcoin developer. Being in charge of BitPay brings even further confidence. Private testnet is great too, they can work on critical issues without trolling and riff raff.
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July 11, 2017, 09:36:37 PM
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Every true bitcoiner should support Satoshis vision by supporting Bitcoin ABC http://www.bitcoinabc.org
Satoshi also opposed second implementations, such as those used by Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin Classic.  Here's what he said:
I don't believe a second, compatible implementation of Bitcoin will ever be a good idea.  So much of the design depends on all nodes getting exactly identical results in lockstep that a second implementation would be a menace to the network.
Satoshi believed and said a lot of different things.  It would be unreasonable to go appealing to satoshi's authority whenever you want to alter Bitcoin, because you'll probably find you're doing something else that he didn't like.

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July 12, 2017, 04:14:29 AM
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Garzik is probably the best and most "head on straight" Bitcoin developer. Being in charge of BitPay brings even further confidence. Private testnet is great too, they can work on critical issues without trolling and riff raff.

Geez there is a lot of comedy from the shill accounts on this thread.  Cheesy

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July 12, 2017, 04:24:11 AM
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https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/65#issuecomment-314221337

Developers are so incompetent that they propose a secret testnet, so it doesn't get attacked.

Fantastic! Just like Buggy Unlimited clowns resorted to closed source development to get a patch out, now these morons want to do closed source testing, for a totally realistic and robust test only to hardfork in a matter of a few months.

Anyone supporting this mess is losing it or is being paid to do so.

I wonder what the big-block crowd imagines is going to happen if they keep plowing forward. Do they really think keeping their code in some kind of safe kindergarten sandbox is the way to prepare it for deployment? That there are not hordes of drooling hackers waiting to tear into it and wreak havoc if it were imposed on Bitcoin?

I tend to envision the security situation with Bitcoin as being like the Battle of Helms Deep in the movie The Two Towers. Bitcoin has been under ferocious assault from hackers since it became worthwhile to target. If they aren't ready to cope with that then they have no business developing software and then expecting the rest of us to place our trust in it.

This.
They considered a few ASICs mining the testnet coin, and spiking the difficulty, to be a major "attack". If their coin ever goes live they'll see what a real attack is, when there's basically the hacker equivalent of full scale nuclear war being waged against them.
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July 12, 2017, 06:12:56 AM
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Garzik is probably the best and most "head on straight" Bitcoin developer.
Absolute nonsense. On a ranking scale, he currently is near the bottom with all those people who left Bitcoin development.

Being in charge of BitPay brings even further confidence.
Absolutely irrelevant.

Private testnet is great too, they can work on critical issues without trolling and riff raff.
I am not sure if you're a spammer, shill, or just stupid.

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They considered a few ASICs mining the testnet coin, and spiking the difficulty, to be a major "attack". If their coin ever goes live they'll see what a real attack is, when there's basically the hacker equivalent of full scale nuclear war being waged against them.
Blaming an attacker for faulty code is the equivalent to saying that 'Water is wet'. They are highly incompetent and aren't even willing to admit to their mistakes. Roll Eyes


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July 12, 2017, 06:37:38 AM
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Hey, look at the upside to this. When the code fail, we will have ONE fall guy for this and not a group of developers pointing fingers at each other to try and shift the blame. On the other hand, he will shift the blame to the people who has to do the peer review and Core will once again get the blame for everything. < Like we have seen before with BugCoin >

The pressure of having a Billion Dollar experiment in your hands has already taken it's toll, when Gavin jumped ship and Core had to take his place. ^smile^ 

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July 12, 2017, 06:51:43 AM
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I think we saw it coming since the project/plan is rushed, no big support from other bitcoin developer and someone use ASIC to mine testnet chain which leads to block orphan since they mined 6k blocks less than a day. CMIIW.
But, test/debug software and find bug it's part of develop software, so maybe we will see SegWit2x work well someday.

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July 12, 2017, 07:01:05 AM
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https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/65#issuecomment-314221337

Developers are so incompetent that they propose a secret testnet, so it doesn't get attacked.

Fantastic! Just like Buggy Unlimited clowns resorted to closed source development to get a patch out, now these morons want to do closed source testing, for a totally realistic and robust test only to hardfork in a matter of a few months.

Anyone supporting this mess is losing it or is being paid to do so.

Are you talking about the support of all of us? Look at the current market, it is going down and causing extremely serious consequences, and bitcoin is the cause of it. The bitcoin chaos is wrecking the entire market, I hate this.

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July 12, 2017, 07:16:41 AM
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You guys are all dickheads. Instead of trying to resolve Bitcoins issues together you just want to sit back and moan and criticise others work. Look what you've done to Bitcoins price. Well done you. Here's a cookie.  Roll Eyes

this is not "criticizing" this is someone who doesn't even know what that particular issue was about and is overly happy because he thinks he has found an "issue" with it. and now (knowingly or unknowingly) is contributing to the drama by spreading even more FUD.

to be honest I have more respect for those supporting BU,... (despite disagreeing with them) than I have for OP. because at least they know what they are doing which is mainly a hostile takeover.

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July 12, 2017, 10:57:09 AM
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https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/65#issuecomment-314221337

Developers are so incompetent that they propose a secret testnet, so it doesn't get attacked.

Fantastic! Just like Buggy Unlimited clowns resorted to closed source development to get a patch out, now these morons want to do closed source testing, for a totally realistic and robust test only to hardfork in a matter of a few months.

Anyone supporting this mess is losing it or is being paid to do so.

FFS.

Every software i've used always had bugs in them. Software gets updated all the time. Even the "mighty" Bill Gates' Windows had a long history of bugs.
Core had many bugs in the last 6 years. Bitcoin had bugs since the first version came out and Hal Finney helped Satoshi to fixed the bugs.

When Core makes bugs, Core fanboys stay silent (I didn't come on here attacking Core developers). When anyone else makes bugs, Core fanboys goes ballistic.

Now, if there is testing going on, bugs being fixed, then that's normal part of software development. When i made a game called Connect 4 for BBC Micro computer in the 1980s, i had a few bugs, and fixed them, before being released.

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