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💰💰💰New release July / 2017💰💰💰 🍀 Lottery Program 🍀 Results from official lottery, currently coming from Euro-Millions granting No Fraud on Results 🔖 Ticket Price: 0.0002BTC 🛒 Minimum Cart: 0.001BTC 📌 Checkout Instant, min 0.01BTC 🍀🍀🍀 JOIN & GET LUCKY 🍀🍀🍀 http://easylotto.me/register
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July 14, 2017, 02:35:12 AM |
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why should people trust you? your a newbi and your not offering any security whatsoever from the site! sounds like your playing the odds of people not winning the lottery! and grabbing the cash for the tickets and saying ow well and good buy on a hit!
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July 14, 2017, 03:01:25 AM |
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A new lottery site popped out from nowhere which been announce by a newbie. Tickets is somehow expensive and i would say lottery based games arent demand on this community which means it doesnt get enough attention which would really result on useless site after all since no people would able to bet on the site specially you are just a newbie.
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July 14, 2017, 03:04:48 AM |
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We will do our best to prevent possible attacks. You guys don't even have SSL certificate in your site and you are claiming you will do best to prevent possible attacks LOL We never sort the numbers, will use any famous lottery, currently using Euro-Millions Why you have to rely on other lottery to get results, just make your own script to draw numbers in provably fair manners. Your prize go to your ballance, request payout and enjoy it I will wait till others will cashout from your site, you should send winnings directly to user's bitcoin address.
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thiaged (OP)
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July 14, 2017, 04:13:33 AM |
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Thanks for reply, We're just getting started, still in beta. SSL is being provided. The intention of the project is to start extremely easy (probability of 1 in approximately 30) precisely so that it does not accumulate much and there are always winners. We chose not to draw the numbers to convey more seriousness in the results, not because we can not do it. No offense against whoever does it, we decided this way. Everybody starts out as a newbie, you were newbie one day, Congrahtulations on the current success of fortunejack. Sending the direct gains to the user seemed expensive to us at startup but we are studying the possibility. As well as an affiliate program. We will put beta label in the program and the few that participate will get the minimum prize easy and maybe alone and can evaluate the seriousness
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July 14, 2017, 01:10:49 PM |
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It will be best to say if you will just bet on euro millions itself, there is no guarantee that OP will pay you if you win here, especially his acct is a newbie as well.
Only results will come from Euro Millions Jackpot funds come from tickets of easylotto
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July 14, 2017, 02:04:04 PM |
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A non secure website does not make a sense of trust. Your website has a low visitors rank, though it looks a non satisfactory lotyery platform. I can change my mind on it but it really needs improvement
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Betwrong
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July 14, 2017, 02:34:04 PM |
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💰💰💰New release July / 2017💰💰💰 🍀 Lottery Program 🍀 Results from official lottery, currently coming from Euro-Millions granting No Fraud on Results 🔖 Ticket Price: 0.0002BTC 🛒 Minimum Cart: 0.001BTC 📌 Checkout Instant, min 0.01BTC 🍀🍀🍀 JOIN & GET LUCKY 🍀🍀🍀 http://easylotto.me/registerIf you really want people start using your site, you probably should start a Signature campaign first. From that how you run it people will get an impression about you in general. Then some of them will probably buy couple of tickets with the money they were paid for participating in your sig. camp. Or, for example, you can give couple of tickets for free to each participant as a part of the payment. Don't expect people will buy lottery tickets from unknown site, because they won't.
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thiaged (OP)
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July 14, 2017, 04:19:22 PM |
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I bought lottery tickets a long time, one day I stopped because it was something unattainable and always gave the impression that the results were fraudulent, on that I started the project and saw in bitcoin the possibility of executing the project. As for the difficulty I started with $ 0.50 tickets where 9 numbers are chosen to hit 5, very easy at the beginning so the pot does not accumulate because of few users, as for fraud in the results, the only way to have in my view is if I am part of the team of euro million, very unlikely. My intentions are very clear, I noticed that bitcoin users are looking for highs Risks and high profits, as I'm not in that direction, maybe I'll get out of the virtual currency and go back to the physical currency, but study the program, sign up and wait for news, what I would spend with marketing I will invest in users. Big hug
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July 15, 2017, 09:26:53 AM |
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I bought lottery tickets a long time, one day I stopped because it was something unattainable and always gave the impression that the results were fraudulent, on that I started the project and saw in bitcoin the possibility of executing the project. As for the difficulty I started with $ 0.50 tickets where 9 numbers are chosen to hit 5, very easy at the beginning so the pot does not accumulate because of few users, as for fraud in the results, the only way to have in my view is if I am part of the team of euro million, very unlikely. My intentions are very clear, I noticed that bitcoin users are looking for highs Risks and high profits, as I'm not in that direction, maybe I'll get out of the virtual currency and go back to the physical currency, but study the program, sign up and wait for news, what I would spend with marketing I will invest in users. Big hug
You have good intentions, but the problem is that few people will know about your lottery without marketing. Even big and known companies like Coca-Cola spend big amounts on marketing every year. And why do you think they do that? Because they know that people will forget about their product without advertising. Many good ideas failed because of the lack of good marketing.
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July 15, 2017, 10:10:28 AM |
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When i was thinking to make a fair game i had one serious issue. Where to find a reliable and cheap (or preferably free ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) way to draw fair results. This argument is not against provably fair schemes found in our crypto world.. Given a random seed , provably fair protects players enough but it leaves a little thing out of the whole picture ... Where House finds random seeds at first place ? For a lottery ,things are worst because you have all players playing against same seed Lets say a lottery is a kind of multiplayer game and as such you need a 3rd party otherwise you may inject winners at will. (*or worst..*) Riding a National Lottery was my conclusion too, so i am familiar with your concept enough. In case you are a capable programmer i like to talk with you , best wishes / good luck. comments some of many ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) * You need to provide somehow the list of participants and bets before the draw in a way no one can alter after. * If you offer fixed odds you need Bankroll to cover this game / cold wallets-escrows-trust * legal implications may arise if your lottery grows big - you may use draws of a national lottery as historical data but mention it only at FAQ-Is this game fair? ..etc
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thiaged (OP)
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July 15, 2017, 04:49:05 PM |
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When i was thinking to make a fair game i had one serious issue. Where to find a reliable and cheap (or preferably free ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) way to draw fair results. This argument is not against provably fair schemes found in our crypto world.. Given a random seed , provably fair protects players enough but it leaves a little thing out of the whole picture ... Where House finds random seeds at first place ? For a lottery ,things are worst because you have all players playing against same seed Lets say a lottery is a kind of multiplayer game and as such you need a 3rd party otherwise you may inject winners at will. (*or worst..*) Riding a National Lottery was my conclusion too, so i am familiar with your concept enough. In case you are a capable programmer i like to talk with you , best wishes / good luck. comments some of many ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) * You need to provide somehow the list of participants and bets before the draw in a way no one can alter after. * If you offer fixed odds you need Bankroll to cover this game / cold wallets-escrows-trust * legal implications may arise if your lottery grows big - you may use draws of a national lottery as historical data but mention it only at FAQ-Is this game fair? ..etc Man, your answer made me sinisterly creepy 😂😂😂😂. Sometimes we see criticism that most of the time it is someone feeling threatened by your business. I am suspending the tests for now and I will analyze everything that was said, congratulations for the comment, I will improve the information of each jackpot, display besides who are participating, send PDF to everybody participating, the masked email of all, etc.I am TI we can't accept limits. I would like to use unique address for each jackpot so people know that there is that balance actually. Thanks for the tip on legal issues. Best regards and thanks for reply
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July 15, 2017, 04:57:36 PM |
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I bought lottery tickets a long time, one day I stopped because it was something unattainable and always gave the impression that the results were fraudulent, on that I started the project and saw in bitcoin the possibility of executing the project. As for the difficulty I started with $ 0.50 tickets where 9 numbers are chosen to hit 5, very easy at the beginning so the pot does not accumulate because of few users, as for fraud in the results, the only way to have in my view is if I am part of the team of euro million, very unlikely. My intentions are very clear, I noticed that bitcoin users are looking for highs Risks and high profits, as I'm not in that direction, maybe I'll get out of the virtual currency and go back to the physical currency, but study the program, sign up and wait for news, what I would spend with marketing I will invest in users. Big hug
You have good intentions, but the problem is that few people will know about your lottery without marketing. Even big and known companies like Coca-Cola spend big amounts on marketing every year. And why do you think they do that? Because they know that people will forget about their product without advertising. Many good ideas failed because of the lack of good marketing. Very wise words, thank you for them
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July 15, 2017, 05:46:26 PM |
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Ok, I checked your site and I understand that you are using Euro-Million numbers instead of own.
But where I can see what are the prizes? Ticket cost is 0.0002 but what we receive for it?
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July 15, 2017, 06:12:27 PM |
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Ok, I checked your site and I understand that you are using Euro-Million numbers instead of own.
But where I can see what are the prizes? Ticket cost is 0.0002 but what we receive for it?
Where it shows "No Jackpot Opens, Come Back Later" will show the current jackpot amount, prize to hit 5, 4 or 3 numbers. I'm working on ways to be more transparent in information. But the main idea is this, a common lottery game, in a way that is say "winnable" and taking results immune to manipulation by us, that is, reliable. I confess, the information clarity part of the page needs improvement, it's no shame to admit it. And it will be improved and I will update here. Thanks for reply
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July 15, 2017, 08:55:08 PM |
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Ok, I checked your site and I understand that you are using Euro-Million numbers instead of own.
But where I can see what are the prizes? Ticket cost is 0.0002 but what we receive for it?
Where it shows "No Jackpot Opens, Come Back Later" will show the current jackpot amount, prize to hit 5, 4 or 3 numbers. I'm working on ways to be more transparent in information. But the main idea is this, a common lottery game, in a way that is say "winnable" and taking results immune to manipulation by us, that is, reliable. I confess, the information clarity part of the page needs improvement, it's no shame to admit it. And it will be improved and I will update here. Thanks for reply Well, then make the whole information visible and transparent even for users just checking your site. I will never make an account just to check what the site will offer me. I will just go to another /and in most cases/ more reputable competition. It's not that hard - to be visible on home page. If you play with XXX then you could win XXXXXX
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July 17, 2017, 06:19:40 AM |
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A new lottery site popped out from nowhere which been announce by a newbie. Tickets is somehow expensive and i would say lottery based games arent demand on this community which means it doesnt get enough attention which would really result on useless site after all since no people would able to bet on the site specially you are just a newbie.
What is wrong with newbie promoting their new site? I do not find that it is bad to promote site using newbie account here, as long as it has good security system and provably fair so this will be good enough. The only matter here on this site they do not have those both so I do not think their site will work. At least they should give us more prizes. I do not see any prizes stated as he mentioned
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July 18, 2017, 10:17:04 PM |
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A new lottery site popped out from nowhere which been announce by a newbie. Tickets is somehow expensive and i would say lottery based games arent demand on this community which means it doesnt get enough attention which would really result on useless site after all since no people would able to bet on the site specially you are just a newbie.
What is wrong with newbie promoting their new site? I do not find that it is bad to promote site using newbie account here, as long as it has good security system and provably fair so this will be good enough. The only matter here on this site they do not have those both so I do not think their site will work. At least they should give us more prizes. I do not see any prizes stated as he mentioned because the thing here, even he has that security system, he still controls that system in a certain way for sure, and if he has newbie acct, he has nothing to lose man. Literally. Even though I seem to have nothing to lose, I have a lot to lose, first the time spent on development, which was not overnight, money spent on infrastructure and security, among others. Everyone wants to see your project thrive, if I did not want to, I would be doing pyramid projects or other fraudulent projects and obviously would not divulge here, posting here beyond marketing, it contributes to my intellectual evolution. I'll lock the post and may be come back after updates. Thanks everybody that contributed with your opinion
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July 18, 2017, 10:54:11 PM |
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Hope you succed with your project! It sounds like a nice idea ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 21, 2017, 10:14:20 AM |
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A new lottery site popped out from nowhere which been announce by a newbie. Tickets is somehow expensive and i would say lottery based games arent demand on this community which means it doesnt get enough attention which would really result on useless site after all since no people would able to bet on the site specially you are just a newbie.
What is wrong with newbie promoting their new site? I do not find that it is bad to promote site using newbie account here, as long as it has good security system and provably fair so this will be good enough. The only matter here on this site they do not have those both so I do not think their site will work. At least they should give us more prizes. I do not see any prizes stated as he mentioned because the thing here, even he has that security system, he still controls that system in a certain way for sure, and if he has newbie acct, he has nothing to lose man. Literally. Even though I seem to have nothing to lose, I have a lot to lose, first the time spent on development, which was not overnight, money spent on infrastructure and security, among others. Everyone wants to see your project thrive, if I did not want to, I would be doing pyramid projects or other fraudulent projects and obviously would not divulge here, posting here beyond marketing, it contributes to my intellectual evolution. I'll lock the post and may be come back after updates. Thanks everybody that contributed with your opinion Hmm i got your point since not all folks do really have the same intentions and some do really have serious ones but you cant really blame us on directly to believe you on the very first place because there are lots of attempts on this forum which a newbie account do offer or announce his scammy site. Sorry for being rude but better to show us more improvements on the site.
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