The problem of cemeteries and until where the cemeteries will be sustained?

[Slow death]

The problem of cemeteries and until where the cemeteries will be sustained?

I believe that this is the problem of all countries, the sharing of the dead with the living.



https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/jan/21/death-in-the-city-what-happens-cemeteries-full-cost-dying

But why do people make cemeteries?

Why do not people incinerate their loved ones?

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Hindus-burn-their-dead-while-Muslims-and-Christians-bury-them

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1798345/jewish/Cremation-or-Burial.htm

From what I read the environmental advantages favor burial, but no one finds it strange to live with a cemetery?

In my country the cemeteries are in the cities, many times when I'm in the car next to a cemetery and what i see makes me shocked, while many people are in the cemetery with tears in their eyes to bury their loved one others are in cars with music with Loud sound, because the cemetery is in town and the young people are listening to music with loud sounds in their houses... I come to think:

What is the problem of this world?

why until today no one create an effective way to incinerate the dead, because to bury the dead will only bring many problems of space dispute between the dead and the living.

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[BADecker]

Everyone on Earth would fit in a cubic mile

Really. You could put the entire population of the Earth in a space one mile wide, one mile deep, and one mile high (one cubic mile). We'd all fit in one small corner of the Grand Canyon, which would take about 2500 cubic miles of dirt (or people) to fill.

How do we know? One cubic mile is 147,197,952,000 cubic feet. If, on average, one human being takes up a space 2 feet by 2 feet by 6 feet it means we occupy 24 cubic feet per person. Sure, kids will have extra room and some of us will be a bit squished (or a lot if you're a flabby American); but on average that's about right.

Read more at http://wow-really.blogspot.com/2006/10/high-density-housing.html.

[maciak]

So what do you propose? I heard of space program that may send embalmed corpses to space. But it will lead to more junk near Earth

[Slow death]

Everyone on Earth would fit in a cubic mile

Really. You could put the entire population of the Earth in a space one mile wide, one mile deep, and one mile high (one cubic mile). We'd all fit in one small corner of the Grand Canyon, which would take about 2500 cubic miles of dirt (or people) to fill.

How do we know? One cubic mile is 147,197,952,000 cubic feet. If, on average, one human being takes up a space 2 feet by 2 feet by 6 feet it means we occupy 24 cubic feet per person. Sure, kids will have extra room and some of us will be a bit squished (or a lot if you're a flabby American); but on average that's about right.

Read more at http://wow-really.blogspot.com/2006/10/high-density-housing.html.

Oh, then there is space for everyone, but why the hell do they build these cemeteries in the cities? Let me guess, build the cemeteries in the cities to make it easier for people to go and visit their loved ones?

But this is just the problem, living near a cemetery is very embarrassing and frightening.

[Slow death]

So what do you propose?

Oh my suggestion: to remove the cemeteries from the cities and to create a machine that incinerates the dead, but must create a machine that does not harm the environment

[krishnapramod]

Imagine if the ancient Egyptians still ruled Egypt, more than half of Egypt would have been filled by pyramids

For environmental reasons, cremation (does release pollutants such as mercury and carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but could be filtered out) is better than traditional burial.

Cremation might be preferable for environmental reasons. Burial is a known source of certain environmental contaminants, with the coffin itself being the major contaminant. Another environmental concern is that traditional burial takes up a great deal of space.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation

For environmental reasons, natural burial is better than traditional burial.

Natural burial is the interment of the body of a dead person in the soil in a manner that does not inhibit decomposition but allows the body to recycle naturally. It is an alternative to other contemporary Western burial methods and funerary customs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_burial

A good percentage of land area is taken up by cemeteries because of the monuments erected on it.

Metaphorical meaning of headstone.

A grave monument (or headstone) is a sign of respect or fondness, erected with the intention of commemorating and remembering a person.

For environmental reasons (less space) natural burial without headstone is better.

Metaphorical meaning of unmarked grave.

An unmarked grave is one that lacks a marker, headstone, or nameplate indicating that a body is buried there. As a figure of speech, a common meaning of the term "unmarked grave" is consignment to an ignominious end.

The religious aspect connected with burial and cremation is all about afterlife and reincarnation. No room for environmental sentiments.

Google, world running out of burial space and you will realize that it is a real concern in the near future. Burying the dead would turn into a booming business in the future, recycling graveyards.

[Iranus]

Everyone on Earth would fit in a cubic mile

Really. You could put the entire population of the Earth in a space one mile wide, one mile deep, and one mile high (one cubic mile). We'd all fit in one small corner of the Grand Canyon, which would take about 2500 cubic miles of dirt (or people) to fill.

How do we know? One cubic mile is 147,197,952,000 cubic feet. If, on average, one human being takes up a space 2 feet by 2 feet by 6 feet it means we occupy 24 cubic feet per person. Sure, kids will have extra room and some of us will be a bit squished (or a lot if you're a flabby American); but on average that's about right.

Read more at http://wow-really.blogspot.com/2006/10/high-density-housing.html.

This is about dead people.  We're talking about trying to preserve people's memory for hundreds of years.

Even if the population stays the same as it is now for ~100 years, we're talking about at least the same number of people as the population of the world.  They wouldn't all be buried and a lot of people are cremated, but the fact that they have that option is unusual.

There will come a time at which cemeteries are completely impractical, and it's already starting to come. 

If you ask me, people will just get cremated more often.  No big deal.

[maku]

So what do you propose? I heard of space program that may send embalmed corpses to space. But it will lead to more junk near Earth

This option would be too extreme, too costly, too complicated and to be honest, we don't need it at all.
Christianity allows cremation of the body after death and many Christians prefer this method of burial rite.
The only main religion on earth which consider cremation bo be a sin is Islam. Cremation is considered by Islam to be haram, or an unclean practice.

[salinizm]

I will ever never incinearate my beloved ones becase I  would always like to visit their graves . I think that dead people aren't actually dead and They can feel us whenever we visit them on their grave. I don't understand why you became irritated in graveyards but Death is as natural as birth and life.

[audaciousbeing]

Cemeteries are every where and there is hardly anything anybody can do about it because it goes to the very basics of our humanity and even our loved ones to still feel the connection even if they are no longer with us. Over here, because of cultural beliefs, an individual will even state where exactly he wants to be buried in which his wishes must be respected as an honour to him despite the fact that he is no longer with us. I believe when it gets to a point where it becomes a social menace, a drastic action will be taken but for now, we just have to live with it.

[dippididodaday]

The best thing to do with the dead is to create a botanical garden (with orchard sections - different fruit tree sections) outside (or not?) of town. The botanical garden should be architecturally planned with stunning layout and views and such, and cultivated and maintained and it should be very very pleasing to the eye, a place to find rest for your soul and to become quiet and serene and to reflect on the pleasant memories you hold of your loved one.

So now what happens to those people who want to bury their dead, they can choose which kind of tree, shrub, herb or grass they want their deceased loved one to lie under. The dead body should not be dressed or encased in wood or any material, but enhanced with compost and moisture to speed up the decay, which in turn will yield stunning beauty with released nutrients  to foster growth of the indicated plant type the loved ones choose. For instance, maybe a family loves apple trees and are attached to those and want an apple tree to grow where their loved one is buried. This will add to the beauty and be a practical solution to the traditional grave- and granite stone atrocities with illogically decorated caskets (6 feet under) we find in the middle of towns and cities.


[NB:Within the culture of burial practices (attached to certain belief systems), the dead body should in no way be altered or mutilated or changed, since it is still the image of the loved one who died. This does not apply to cremation practices, usually attached to different belief systems than those of burial practices, since the dead body in this case is burned to the raw elements it consisted of in a couple minutes.]

[DunnoZawr]

Incinerate bodies is the best option, you can throw ashes to the sea or keep them in your house, no need of cemeteries.

[coolcoinz]

Let's not generalize that Hindus burn, while Christians bury. Christians support cremation, it's just that burying is the traditional way and most people still choose it due to this fact. Their grandparents and parents were buried and sometimes they want to join them in a family grave, but times slowly change and more people are choosing cremation due to growing prices of graveyard spots. Also these spots have to be maintained, so every X years your relatives have to rebuy it or they might be auctioned off to someone else.

[SugoiSenpai]

I actually agree to your idea on incinerating the bodies, we could still keep the ashes in a vase so that, we do not need to have a cemetery our loved ones ashes are just in our house. It could provide a lot of space and it is the easiest way to prevent crowded places, and to have a lot of space. Having a burial is too much effort and too much time consuming, the dead are dead, they are not alive so incinerating them would'nt be a problem, the only problem is the mentality of the majority of people.

[Slow death]

the only problem is the mentality of the majority of people.

that is the problem.

In Africa, in my country in specific, there are people who make cemeteries in their own homes, this becomes even more frightening, these people refuse to remove their graves, so do cemeteries in the cities.

What happened:

In the past the city was small and the cemeteries were far from the cities, but in a few years the cities grew at a frightening pace and the cimiterios ended up staying inside the cities, the problem is that while they are buried a dead, one steps, other people then Laughing and drinking alcohol... you hear two sounds, some people cry because they have lost their loved ones and other people laugh because they are happy and everyone is in the same space.

[deejhay]

true, in the past graves are 6 feet deep, now its 6 feet high above the ground and increasing.
so cremating is more practical, you wont have to pay for the lot which is very costly, also the coffin.

[viean]

The best thing to renovate it is to donate the government some land to build another cemetery because the number of death is increase at a time

[BitcoinSupremo]

This problem can be easily solved. In Italy we use to lock the people up in coffins and put them in walls created specifically for the dead. However many other countries have a found a much better way, they create a big park within a few miles from the city with trees and grass where they bury their loved ones. I agree with this kind of burial as one may need the urge to go and see their loved one which has passed away, just to pass a few moments there. US has chosen this way of burying people.

[The_prodigy]

This problem can be easily solved. In Italy we use to lock the people up in coffins and put them in walls created specifically for the dead. However many other countries have a found a much better way, they create a big park within a few miles from the city with trees and grass where they bury their loved ones. I agree with this kind of burial as one may need the urge to go and see their loved one which has passed away, just to pass a few moments there. US has chosen this way of burying people.

Cemeteries are important as it goves people a place to commemorate the loved one that died. But if you want to make it a sustainable solution. I believe that we can make use of cemeteries as a nature reserve. Where we can use the land or coffins as a place to alsogive birth to tress that we can look up to when we visit. I stead of expensive mausoleums and confined spaces. We can enjoy a picnic under a tree with its roots on the place where are loved one is buried.

[indrakusumaindra]

we should make a building special for the dead, a high one.  so its wouldn't bother anyone in the city, well maintaned, clean and comfortably to be visited by people who had lost their loved ones. and this idea would become something good to solve the problem where no more land to be a cementries cause not everyone one their loved ones to be burned to ash. And i think it would be good thing to have somewhere to grief and remembering the good old days with the dead so you can move foward and still remember the thing that your loved one had done to your own self.