[FUD] What is with the hacked accounts epidemic ?

[Spoetnik]

I still stand by what i said and i am repeating myself.

Can anyone post some info on passwords leaked ?
I am not denying it i just did not recall it happening.
People ASSUME a lot..
If a hack happens over time people will blur that into some grandiose thing losing the details.

And yeah i am familiar.. i am a well known cracker, i made my name for myself long before i came here guys.
Did you keygen your own firewall and still use it today after 10 years ?
It uses the same hashing algo that Bitcoin uses LOL (i also patched it bypassing the SHA based custom caesar cipher protection too)

..yeah i can code too.
--yeah i can write PHP and have setup my own forums.

I am familiar with hackers..
If you all want i can have some world famous ones come here and lecture YOU with an attitude easily.
As a matter of fact i already have logged into my other account on the hacker site and posted a message over there saying "Spoetnik says Hi" then i screen capped it and posted it here.
I use to be a mod on the large / old site and my custom title i was given was "leet cracker"
I never asked for it either.. i got my reputation by kicking ass.
One of my old groups was on CNN and every news outlet on earth for "hacking"
My good buddy was arrested by the FBI.
So spare me the condescending bullshit kids.

..missing is the point.
I am not talking about people jazzing up their posts with fancy fonts and colors.
I am saying it is odd that no one mentions what their password was.. or if it was hard/easy etc.
When you guys just finished saying it *DOES* matter.
So.. duh smart ass's
if it DOES IN FACT matter then why is it never mentioned ?

AND.. no one even bothers to ask these "victims" about it either..

YOU ALL ASSUME THEY ARE BEING TRUTHFUL ON EVERY POST !

You are all not getting what i am saying here.
And i have been here through i think 3 hacks and no i never changed my password either.
And here i am..
And yeah i have had to login again which is a red flag i had an attempt.
That has happened to me all over the web and i get emails fishing. (crypto related)

Let me remind you there is one other reason for a guy to claim he was scammed ..even if he was a noob.
And that is ?
Reputation.

How may have barely been here and WHAM their account was hacked and then surprise surprise their account was used to support some fraud scheme etc ?

People there is a loophole here used in a couple ways with crying my account was hacked.
And i think it is a thing were once a few started doing it more joined in.
Of course there is legit reasons and incidents but what i am talking about here guys is i think there is a new phenomenon playing out.

These guys here are predators and latch onto exploits and they catch on like wild fire.
Anyway for them to restore trust or make a dollar and they will dog-pile onto it.

So i am saying quit being so trusting / gullible and put these guys through the wringer.

I use Password Depot on Windows with it's password creator.. it's an awesome pass maker !
It says how many millions of years it is estimated to crack the password too.



Ever heard of an old scientist who said the simplest explanation is usually the correct one ?
Well, something stinks here .... as always.

EDIT:
I am not responsible for this post now though guys.
You see my account was hacked.. can i have my red trust removed ?
Oh and yeah........................ i sold my account ROFL AHHAHAHHAHAH

Seriously how fucking god damn gullible are you all ?

And i think some of you replying here are GUILTY of it too.. so of course you are going to defend the cop-out.

So..
yeah it DOES matter when i say i never seen 1 guy here ever say what his password was / is.
You just finished lipping me off saying it matters.. EXACTLY !
Get it yet ?
Get why i would want that info in a complaint ?
Get why i would find it odd no guy ever said hey i had a super mega hard password ?

Sometimes what is missing is the most telling..

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[minifrij]

Seems we disagree about what is more important, functionality or appearance.

In this case it is important to keep both in mind.

Having the forum check automatically would be a nice feature in my opinion.

And I agree with you. However, your implementation is flawed in my opinion.

If "idiots" don't understand the red link and are scared off by it, I'd say that's better than them being hacked.

Firstly, the idiots are not those who misunderstand what the forum shows. People believe that negative trust makes people a scammer, when this is not the case. However, assuming as such does not make them an idiot, simply misinformed. The idiots are those who do not take proper care to secure their accounts and therefore pay the price.

Secondly, I don't agree that it would be better. By potentially conditioning people to be scared of every link they press we are not helping the matter. Rather than checking the link themselves, they will automatically assume that every link is evil and they do not click on it.
So, with this, what happens when the same user realizes not every link is evil? Have they learned to check the link before clicking it, or have they been shown that every link is of the same standard (evil)? If the latter, why would this change when they believe that every link isn't evil?
By making every outgoing link look evil we aren't solving anything, rather putting off the issue until people have more to lose. By having a page that says 'This link is not an official Bitcointalk link. Be sure that you trust it before entering any personal information.', we are not conditioning people to be scared, rather to second check where they are putting their information into. However, this implementation brings it's own issues which I mentioned earlier.

However, from an advertising driven business perspective I can understand the reason we don't have a "semi-scare mongering" protection in place.  It also sends you down the slippery slope of protecting users from scams, which has already been labeled an impossible task.

While this may be a concern during implementation, I personally couldn't care less about theymos' (or the site's) advertising revenue. I also fail to see how your second point is a negative.

That is why I think the only answer here is to educate users, but so often they are insulted and belittled instead.  

And what will we be educating to them? That every link not on Bitcointalk is evil? I don't think that's a particularly good message.

Regarding the insulting, I am a firm believer that realizing your mistake is the best way to not do it again. While it may be kicking them when they're down and not the nicest thing to do, if you allow your account to be hacked you are an idiot and you should be told that. While I understand it is not your point, telling them that 'it could happen to anyone' or something similar doesn't help them realize their mistake. No one likes to be called an idiot, and it is likely that people would do what they can to avoid it. If they are an idiot for allowing their account to be compromised, then they will likely do what they can to not do that again.

It should also be kept in mind that these are all just my personal feelings though, so I may be incorrect. I'm not a psychologist.

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It's getting late; I'll reply in the morning.

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I still stand by what i said and i am repeating myself.

Can anyone post some info on passwords leaked ?
I am not denying it i just did not recall it happening.
People ASSUME a lot..

I'm not sure if you're just trolling now but there's plenty of info from several sources about what was leaked and even from theymos himself:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609231.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/51qxa0/400k_usernamepasswordemail_bitcointalkorg_being/
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nz74az/bitcointalk-forum-hack-cracked-passwords-for-sale
https://mobile.twitter.com/bitcointalk/status/602017247788343296