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July 15, 2017, 03:13:57 PM
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Yezzir.

Man oh, man, where do I start?

Since I have been following the Breitbart/Infowars talking points, lets cut through all that bullshit. We know:

1) DT Jr., Kushner, and Manafort lied AGAIN on their disclosure forms about meetings with Russian foreign officials.

2) Members of the Trump administration conspired to obtain opposition research from foreign nationals, a clear violation of 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510, a law that prohibits contributions to campaigns from foreign nationals.

3) a dossier was exchanged, establishing that the Trump campaign accepted a "thing of value". why this is important;

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).
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(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

(c)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals to political committees and organizations of political parties. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or donation to:

(1) A political committee of a political party, including a national party committee, a national congressional campaign committee, or a State, district, or local party committee, including a non-Federal account of a State, district, or local party committee, or

(2) An organization of a political party whether or not the organization is a political committee under 11 CFR 100.5.

4) DTJr lied in his interview about the scope of the meeting (eight fucking people were present, a hilarious oversight).

5) Natalia Veselnitskaya is most likely an agent. And for the record, its really dumb to assume that Obama's "deep state" would help Russia give opposition research to Trump. So dumb, in fact, even FOX, the bastion of fair and balanced reporting, had to chime in:

Trump Jr Russia meeting: Who is to blame?
The Russian attorney whose campaign-season meeting with Donald Trump Jr. has caused headaches for the White House was cleared to enter the U.S. at the time of the visit by the Obama State Department, officials confirmed to Fox News late Thursday.

A brief timeline released overnight helps to resolve questions over how Natalia Veselnitskaya even had legal permission to be in the U.S. And it also shows multiple Obama agencies were involved on multiple occasions in granting access to the lawyer after she was initially denied a visa.

According to the timeline released by the Department of Homeland Security, the Obama Justice and Homeland Security departments granted her a special type of “parole” to be in the U.S. from September 2015 through February 2016 to work on a court case in New York. After that expired, according to DHS, the State Department issued her a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa in June 2016, according to DHS, just in time for her meeting with Trump Jr., Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

That newly revealed meeting has revived congressional scrutiny of the campaign’s alleged coordination with Russia, since an intermediary told Trump Jr. the lawyer could have dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of the Russian government’s bid to help his dad.

While Trump Jr. has since said, in hindsight, he would have done things differently, his father on Thursday took a more defiant tone and seemed to blame the Obama administration for letting the lawyer into the country.

so, while one could put their head in the sand and dismiss this as a nothingburger, its a very large, triple patty nothingburger with extra cheese and onion straws. You could say this isnt collusion, and technically you would be right, I wont argue you. But the lies are starting to pile up, lies that dont make sense unless something is being hidden. SO much fucking smoke. Its all very interesting.

and the best part is that, I dont think everyone has realized this is already over. DTJr is going to jail; the intelligence community has known about this for over a year. they sat on this, to let him hang himself, along with Kushner and Manafort. And now rumors of Sessions possibly resigning? They let them deny Russian meetings publically, and never refuted it, until now. This is why you dont piss of the intelligence community Wink it doesnt seem that smart, and apparently you dont get far Cheesy

Kinda like tweeting an incriminating email chain against the advice of your legal counsel..

Yall should be mad at Twitter. Twitter fucked this alllll up for the right.

Please, our more conservative friends on the board, wax fucking poetic in your opinions of this. I am all ears, this will be BTCtalk Gold Wink
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July 15, 2017, 03:22:19 PM
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Yezzir.

Man oh, man, where do I start?

Since I have been following the Breitbart/Infowars talking points, lets cut through all that bullshit. We know:

1) DT Jr., Kushner, and Manafort lied AGAIN on their disclosure forms about meetings with Russian foreign officials.

2) Members of the Trump administration conspired to obtain opposition research from foreign nationals, a clear violation of 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510, a law that prohibits contributions to campaigns from foreign nationals.

3) a dossier was exchanged, establishing that the Trump campaign accepted a "thing of value". why this is important;

§ 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).
Quote
(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

(c)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals to political committees and organizations of political parties. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or donation to:

(1) A political committee of a political party, including a national party committee, a national congressional campaign committee, or a State, district, or local party committee, including a non-Federal account of a State, district, or local party committee, or

(2) An organization of a political party whether or not the organization is a political committee under 11 CFR 100.5.

4) DTJr lied in his interview about the scope of the meeting (eight fucking people were present, a hilarious oversight).

5) Natalia Veselnitskaya is most likely an agent. And for the record, its really dumb to assume that Obama's "deep state" would help Russia give opposition research to Trump. So dumb, in fact, even FOX, the bastion of fair and balanced reporting, had to chime in:

Trump Jr Russia meeting: Who is to blame?
The Russian attorney whose campaign-season meeting with Donald Trump Jr. has caused headaches for the White House was cleared to enter the U.S. at the time of the visit by the Obama State Department, officials confirmed to Fox News late Thursday.

A brief timeline released overnight helps to resolve questions over how Natalia Veselnitskaya even had legal permission to be in the U.S. And it also shows multiple Obama agencies were involved on multiple occasions in granting access to the lawyer after she was initially denied a visa.

According to the timeline released by the Department of Homeland Security, the Obama Justice and Homeland Security departments granted her a special type of “parole” to be in the U.S. from September 2015 through February 2016 to work on a court case in New York. After that expired, according to DHS, the State Department issued her a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa in June 2016, according to DHS, just in time for her meeting with Trump Jr., Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

That newly revealed meeting has revived congressional scrutiny of the campaign’s alleged coordination with Russia, since an intermediary told Trump Jr. the lawyer could have dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of the Russian government’s bid to help his dad.

While Trump Jr. has since said, in hindsight, he would have done things differently, his father on Thursday took a more defiant tone and seemed to blame the Obama administration for letting the lawyer into the country.

so, while one could put their head in the sand and dismiss this as a nothingburger, its a very large, triple patty nothingburger with extra cheese and onion straws. You could say this isnt collusion, and technically you would be right, I wont argue you. But the lies are starting to pile up, lies that dont make sense unless something is being hidden. SO much fucking smoke. Its all very interesting.

and the best part is that, I dont think everyone has realized this is already over. DTJr is going to jail; the intelligence community has known about this for over a year. they sat on this, to let him hang himself, along with Kushner and Manafort. And now rumors of Sessions possibly resigning? They let them deny Russian meetings publically, and never refuted it, until now. This is why you dont piss of the intelligence community Wink it doesnt seem that smart, and apparently you dont get far Cheesy

Kinda like tweeting an incriminating email chain against the advice of your legal counsel..

Yall should be mad at Twitter. Twitter fucked this alllll up for the right.

Please, our more conservative friends on the board, wax fucking poetic in your opinions of this. I am all ears, this will be BTCtalk Gold Wink

The thing that is most ironic about this whole situation is the simple fact that President Trump's entire campaign was essentially based on Hilary Clinton's email scandal, and now his own son's emails could be (while extremely unlikely) the reason he gets impeached.

By the way, I heard that Trump (Sr.) has never actually sent an email in his entire life.
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July 15, 2017, 03:40:57 PM
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The whole thing is a camouflage to cover up and hide the real power we have.

1. The 9th Amendment, and to a limited degree, the 10th Amendment, tell us that the people have all authority and rights regarding anything that is not directly listed in the Constitution and Amendments, just as they had before the Constitution existed.

2. The 6th and 7th Amendments tell us that the people can have a jury trial in anything they want.

Are Government people scaring you? Are they causing you harm and grief by what they are doing? Are they messing with your life by things that they are doing? Take any Government person to a jury trial along with his (her) Governmental position, and get the person punished, and the law repealed, at least for you.

This is a thing that the AFL-CIO attempts to do. But they are a cover-up as well. Why? Because rather than simply support you in your man-to-man fight against a Government man or woman, they make it a corporation against corporation thing (AFL-CIO corporation against Government corporation). If they really wanted a win, they would find a tough guy in their organization, and simply support him as he goes after Government people and laws.

For example. If the AFL-CIO wanted to get rid of the income tax, they could do it this way... at least for one man, to start. How? Simply support him in his Court of Record claim jury trial against IRS people who take his money without itemizing anything they gave him in return. And if they did this with enough people in jury trials, they would win big, and the income tax would have to be repealed for everyone.

Youtube and Google search on "Karl Lentz common law" to find out how to do it. Or set aside 6 hours to watch Karl at Johnson City - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3MI70PFBw - for the big picture.

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