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July 16, 2017, 04:08:40 PM |
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Its very dry here in Sweden atleast.
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July 16, 2017, 08:13:53 PM |
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Hah, I noticed a flood too. Secondhand prices sometimes still higher than retail, even though they are new in stock now.
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Here in Romania the prices are still very high but i see many rigs on sale which indicates the big miners are slowly getting rid of their machines. I will sell my old HD 7970 rigs as soon as possible even though it is still profitable to mine some coins...after Ethereum will switch to POS we will se RX 480/580 for 50 bucks lol .
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July 16, 2017, 08:53:24 PM |
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its gameover trolls hehe
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July 16, 2017, 09:13:06 PM |
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It's kinda expected for newcomers to just dump when they see that they are not making as much as they expected. Unfortunately not many of them in my country selling atm. (I would buy now for example ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )
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July 16, 2017, 09:40:02 PM |
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Here in Romania the prices are still very high but i see many rigs on sale which indicates the big miners are slowly getting rid of their machines. I will sell my old HD 7970 rigs as soon as possible even though it is still profitable to mine some coins...after Ethereum will switch to POS we will se RX 480/580 for 50 bucks lol .
That would be an interesting price development. I think there will be other ways I could profit from compute power one way or another.
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July 16, 2017, 09:58:03 PM |
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We'll it stil early.
We are still more profitable today than we were at the beginning of the year.
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July 16, 2017, 11:10:35 PM |
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Hah, I noticed a flood too. Secondhand prices sometimes still higher than retail, even though they are new in stock now.
thats bc these fools paid double the price of what gpus were worth, they cant sell at retail unless they want to lose alot
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July 17, 2017, 02:52:04 AM |
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Hah, I noticed a flood too. Secondhand prices sometimes still higher than retail, even though they are new in stock now.
thats bc these fools paid double the price of what gpus were worth, they cant sell at retail unless they want to lose alot fudruckers . central nj has 11 cards 7 1070's 4 1080 's all overpriced and not a single 1080ti. the op is a years long debbie down poster with hundreds of downbeat posts over the years. he always is calling for bear markets and downer news. Op take a month off please. I am tired of reading all your doom and gloom posts. The rally is coming early sept. and if you think the one in april may and june was good wait till you all see zec at 500 thats right 500 I said it here. the 1080 ti will rule for months to come well into 2018. BTW it is BTC that has crashed here 3000 to 1900 is a big ass crash. Dead weight dinosaur and the developers are rocking the boat due to alt coin envy.
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July 17, 2017, 03:19:44 AM |
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That's still a ROI of 10 months for cards bought at $250
Your calculation is based on gpu only, system is expensive, you need to put the system cost too, motherboard around $150, psu around $200, ssd around $80, cpu around $40, memory 8GB around $80, total system cost without gpu around $550 and that is average price of a system, most countries you pay 50% more on the $550 value. Which means $800 without any gpu, now you place 5 gpus which is also standard per motherboard, your roi is not 5 gpus, is 8 gpus cause of the system cost, $800 is 3 gpus based on your $250. So total to roi is $2000 plus electricity is around $0.20, now let's see, profit per day is $3.40, $2000 divided per $3.40 = 590 days to roi, that is almost 2 years. You're way overbuilding the base rig...
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July 17, 2017, 03:35:27 AM |
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That's still a ROI of 10 months for cards bought at $250
Your calculation is based on gpu only, system is expensive, you need to put the system cost too, motherboard around $150, psu around $200, ssd around $80, cpu around $40, memory 8GB around $80, total system cost without gpu around $550 and that is average price of a system, most countries you pay 50% more on the $550 value. Which means $800 without any gpu, now you place 5 gpus which is also standard per motherboard, your roi is not 5 gpus, is 8 gpus cause of the system cost, $800 is 3 gpus based on your $250. So total to roi is $2000 plus electricity is around $0.20, now let's see, profit per day is $3.40, $2000 divided per $3.40 = 590 days to roi, that is almost 2 years. You're way overbuilding the base rig... 100 for a mobo 130 for a psu 30 for a usb stick 50 for a cpu 10 for 1 riser 50 for ram 360 for a 4 card build the build will last 3 gpu upgrades about 3 years if you do not overclock like made. 360 + 1600 for 4 1070's = 1960 for about 1700 sols that gives about 8 dollars power at 10 cents is 1.20 so 6.80 net x 300 days = 2040 so 10 months or so
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July 17, 2017, 04:54:46 AM |
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100 for a mobo 130 for a psu 30 for a usb stick 50 for a cpu 10 for 1 riser 50 for ram
You are in the USA. Those prices I stated are worldwide, usually is 50% more expensive, sometimes 100% - 150%. Electricity price worldwide is $0.20.
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July 17, 2017, 04:56:57 AM |
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Wise as usual Phillip. I wish I'd bought in with 1080tis like you did, miss seeing them for <$700. Missed some good deals but at the time 1070s and 4/580s were available and still seemed like the sweet spot. I've sold one of my first 480 rigs off to buy a few 1080tis now. Hope there's some decent sales/rebates on them in the near future.
I figure if anything will have a decent resale price after the next ice age it'll be the tis.
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July 17, 2017, 05:13:09 AM |
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you can still find founders editions at like 669 before tax ,
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July 17, 2017, 06:01:57 AM |
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We were able to pick up a few 1080 Ti GPUs for $620-630 a couple months back, now it's difficult to find any for less then $700. Thankfully, we're almost finalized with what we wanted to do this summer, so we should be fine as is until either good sales happen again, or profitability bounces back up big time.
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July 17, 2017, 06:55:31 AM |
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We were able to pick up a few 1080 Ti GPUs for $620-630 a couple months back, now it's difficult to find any for less then $700. Thankfully, we're almost finalized with what we wanted to do this summer, so we should be fine as is until either good sales happen again, or profitability bounces back up big time.
i wasnt sold on TI's but i did buy 10 of them when 107s were clsoe to 500, i figured why buy a 1070 for 500 when i can get a ti for 670 man , these things are monsters , Zcash at 700 heck 750 with good cooling which i dont have , currently they are doing 22 mhs each on that new pumped coin basically a 470 or 480 can do 6 mhs at max at 150 watts If i could source good 4000 watt PSU's id be buying more 1080 tis , but I just cant find a way to power more than 3-5 on one rig withoute the server PSU's and PICOs at 200 watt a card or min 150 if in under power them thats over 1200 watt , so 1300 watt total system ore more
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July 17, 2017, 08:33:53 AM |
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That's still a ROI of 10 months for cards bought at $250
Your calculation is based on gpu only, system is expensive, you need to put the system cost too, motherboard around $150, psu around $200, ssd around $80, cpu around $40, memory 8GB around $80, total system cost without gpu around $550 and that is average price of a system, most countries you pay 50% more on the $550 value. Which means $800 without any gpu, now you place 5 gpus which is also standard per motherboard, your roi is not 5 gpus, is 8 gpus cause of the system cost, $800 is 3 gpus based on your $250. So total to roi is $2000 plus electricity is around $0.20, now let's see, profit per day is $3.40, $2000 divided per $3.40 = 590 days to roi, that is almost 2 years. You're way overbuilding the base rig... 100 for a mobo 130 for a psu 30 for a usb stick 50 for a cpu 10 for 1 riser 50 for ram 360 for a 4 card build the build will last 3 gpu upgrades about 3 years if you do not overclock like made. 360 + 1600 for 4 1070's = 1960 for about 1700 sols that gives about 8 dollars power at 10 cents is 1.20 so 6.80 net x 300 days = 2040 so 10 months or so That is the price in the US. In Europe or China, the price is 50% higher at least.
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July 17, 2017, 10:53:03 AM |
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We were able to pick up a few 1080 Ti GPUs for $620-630 a couple months back, now it's difficult to find any for less then $700. Thankfully, we're almost finalized with what we wanted to do this summer, so we should be fine as is until either good sales happen again, or profitability bounces back up big time.
i wasnt sold on TI's but i did buy 10 of them when 107s were clsoe to 500, i figured why buy a 1070 for 500 when i can get a ti for 670 man , these things are monsters , Zcash at 700 heck 750 with good cooling which i dont have , currently they are doing 22 mhs each on that new pumped coin basically a 470 or 480 can do 6 mhs at max at 150 watts If i could source good 4000 watt PSU's id be buying more 1080 tis , but I just cant find a way to power more than 3-5 on one rig withoute the server PSU's and PICOs at 200 watt a card or min 150 if in under power them thats over 1200 watt , so 1300 watt total system ore more May I know which pumped coin are you referring to?
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July 17, 2017, 03:56:12 PM |
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Hah, I noticed a flood too. Secondhand prices sometimes still higher than retail, even though they are new in stock now.
thats bc these fools paid double the price of what gpus were worth, they cant sell at retail unless they want to lose alot fudruckers . central nj has 11 cards 7 1070's 4 1080 's all overpriced and not a single 1080ti. the op is a years long debbie down poster with hundreds of downbeat posts over the years. he always is calling for bear markets and downer news. Op take a month off please. I am tired of reading all your doom and gloom posts. The rally is coming early sept. and if you think the one in april may and june was good wait till you all see zec at 500 thats right 500 I said it here. the 1080 ti will rule for months to come well into 2018. BTW it is BTC that has crashed here 3000 to 1900 is a big ass crash. Dead weight dinosaur and the developers are rocking the boat due to alt coin envy. You do have to admit his threads/posts are entertaining if not anything else lol... We were able to pick up a few 1080 Ti GPUs for $620-630 a couple months back, now it's difficult to find any for less then $700. Thankfully, we're almost finalized with what we wanted to do this summer, so we should be fine as is until either good sales happen again, or profitability bounces back up big time.
i wasnt sold on TI's but i did buy 10 of them when 107s were clsoe to 500, i figured why buy a 1070 for 500 when i can get a ti for 670 man , these things are monsters , Zcash at 700 heck 750 with good cooling which i dont have , currently they are doing 22 mhs each on that new pumped coin basically a 470 or 480 can do 6 mhs at max at 150 watts If i could source good 4000 watt PSU's id be buying more 1080 tis , but I just cant find a way to power more than 3-5 on one rig withoute the server PSU's and PICOs at 200 watt a card or min 150 if in under power them thats over 1200 watt , so 1300 watt total system ore more Yeah Marvell1 I moved off desktop PC's to server PSUs to power my 1080Ti rigs. A DPS-2000 works like a charm and I just grab the PICOs from Deepinthemines and breakout boards from Optimizer. No complaints here with my setup other than having to either buy the new risers with 6pin power to replace my SATA ones or sidehacks setup to power the SATA risers off the server PSUs...
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Hah, I noticed a flood too. Secondhand prices sometimes still higher than retail, even though they are new in stock now.
thats bc these fools paid double the price of what gpus were worth, they cant sell at retail unless they want to lose alot fudruckers . central nj has 11 cards 7 1070's 4 1080 's all overpriced and not a single 1080ti. the op is a years long debbie down poster with hundreds of downbeat posts over the years. he always is calling for bear markets and downer news. Op take a month off please. I am tired of reading all your doom and gloom posts. The rally is coming early sept. and if you think the one in april may and june was good wait till you all see zec at 500 thats right 500 I said it here. the 1080 ti will rule for months to come well into 2018. BTW it is BTC that has crashed here 3000 to 1900 is a big ass crash. Dead weight dinosaur and the developers are rocking the boat due to alt coin envy. You do have to admit his threads/posts are entertaining if not anything else lol... We were able to pick up a few 1080 Ti GPUs for $620-630 a couple months back, now it's difficult to find any for less then $700. Thankfully, we're almost finalized with what we wanted to do this summer, so we should be fine as is until either good sales happen again, or profitability bounces back up big time.
i wasnt sold on TI's but i did buy 10 of them when 107s were clsoe to 500, i figured why buy a 1070 for 500 when i can get a ti for 670 man , these things are monsters , Zcash at 700 heck 750 with good cooling which i dont have , currently they are doing 22 mhs each on that new pumped coin basically a 470 or 480 can do 6 mhs at max at 150 watts If i could source good 4000 watt PSU's id be buying more 1080 tis , but I just cant find a way to power more than 3-5 on one rig withoute the server PSU's and PICOs at 200 watt a card or min 150 if in under power them thats over 1200 watt , so 1300 watt total system ore more Yeah Marvell1 I moved off desktop PC's to server PSUs to power my 1080Ti rigs. A DPS-2000 works like a charm and I just grab the PICOs from Deepinthemines and breakout boards from Optimizer. No complaints here with my setup other than having to either buy the new risers with 6pin power to replace my SATA ones or sidehacks setup to power the SATA risers off the server PSUs... If you want to go cheap with Picos you can buy them from Aliexpress for cheap as well. I buy bulk from an Aliexpress and it works fine.
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