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July 17, 2017, 09:17:47 AM
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Kraken is quite good. What did you not like about them?
Kraken is horrible, I mean when they got DDOSd multiple times and liquidated accounts full of BTC/LTC/etc. and people lost tens of thousands, they blamed it on them. At least when Poloniex got screwed they paid people back. Now Poloniex sucks incredibly, but I wouldn't trust any exchange that treats clients in such a way
I didn't know about that. I will make sure next time I use them to transfer my cryptos to a wallet.
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July 17, 2017, 09:59:52 AM
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Would you like me to outline even more ways that bitcoin saves me money vs the traditional financial system? Or would you like to continue to base your opinion on what people are telling you you should do? Perhaps in your region there are mitigating factors that give you fewer options, but from where I sit, along with many others in similar situations, Bitcoin already offers more cost effective options and, as you quoted, are increasingly offering more. I anticipate I'll be using bitcoin for 90% of my financial dealings .
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July 17, 2017, 10:52:28 AM
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Would you like me to outline even more ways that bitcoin saves me money vs the traditional financial system? Or would you like to continue to base your opinion on what people are telling you you should do? Perhaps in your region there are mitigating factors that give you fewer options, but from where I sit, along with many others in similar situations, Bitcoin already offers more cost effective options and, as you quoted, are increasingly offering more. I anticipate I'll be using bitcoin for 90% of my financial dealings .

As a financial advisor by trade I would LOVE you to!  But I'd like some clarification on basing my opinion on "what people are telling me you should do"? I am located in the United States/ Chicago, pretty sure there's as many ( or close to ) options here as anywhere.

A bit of my personal feelings for the record - with Aug 1 looming and all that it has brought about I've started to sour a bit on BTC.  First the exchanges, say whatever you want facts are facts.  Low level websites with poor customer service isn't here and there, it's the norm.  At present moment BTC has become slow to send/receive at times and also has become increasingly more expensive to buy/sell/exchange.

There are so few business that accept Bitcoin in the US in a "normal" persons everyday life (rising expenses have made many re-think accepting it as of late to boot).  I've been to 1 restaurant that accepts BTC, one bullion exchange I really like accepts BTC, an online pharmacy I use accepts it and the list of places in my everyday life end there.  I'll also note as a huge crypto and blockchain supporter I'm extremely vigilant when it comes to seeing if whatever merchant I'm at takes it as payment.

I keep hearing how much less expensive it is but that's just not adding up in my head.  It doesn't cost me a dollar to open a checking account at a bank.  Doesn't cost me any money to leave it there nor does it cost a red cent to pay my bills each month where the bank physically prints and mails out checks.  I pay my friends with Venmo for whatever reason which doesn't cost me or them a single penny.  

My roomate is one of the few friends of mine who owns BTC.  I actually sent him his first coins.  I was paying my half of the utilities for the month.  I wasn't really thinking and sent him over around 60 USD and he ended up receiving around 55 USD.  Loss of 5 bucks that had we used Venmo, Chase Quickpay or cash no loss occured at all.  

Again I am 1000% behind BTC, Alt-coins, and the block-chain technology.  I've read several books, and spent many hours reading credible sources online.  I see where businesses can save money, especially with the implementation of block-chain to replace old archaic systems..but for the everyday individual I'm having a harder time justifying it's uses  (this goes for those ONLY in the US to be clear).

Using for 90% of your financial dealings seems quite impossible.  Also, at that percentage it seems a bit financially irresponsible in that you're then neglecting to build credit as well as earning free points through your credit card.

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July 17, 2017, 11:25:53 AM
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Kraken is quite good. What did you not like about them?
Kraken is horrible, I mean when they got DDOSd multiple times and liquidated accounts full of BTC/LTC/etc. and people lost tens of thousands, they blamed it on them. At least when Poloniex got screwed they paid people back. Now Poloniex sucks incredibly, but I wouldn't trust any exchange that treats clients in such a way
I didn't know about that. I will make sure next time I use them to transfer my cryptos to a wallet.
I never had a problem with bittrex, I think at the moment it is the most reliable trading sites as it is growing.
My experience was really good in bittrex, transactions are very fast (withdrawal/deposits) and there are a lot of coins listed that
has a good volume, not maybe a big volume like poloniex but they are growing.

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July 17, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
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Kraken is quite good. What did you not like about them?
Kraken is horrible, I mean when they got DDOSd multiple times and liquidated accounts full of BTC/LTC/etc. and people lost tens of thousands, they blamed it on them. At least when Poloniex got screwed they paid people back. Now Poloniex sucks incredibly, but I wouldn't trust any exchange that treats clients in such a way
I didn't know about that. I will make sure next time I use them to transfer my cryptos to a wallet.
I never had a problem with bittrex, I think at the moment it is the most reliable trading sites as it is growing.
My experience was really good in bittrex, transactions are very fast (withdrawal/deposits) and there are a lot of coins listed that
has a good volume, not maybe a big volume like poloniex but they are growing.

For me Bittrex is no.1 exchange where i can trust to trade for they never had bad image even since then(nor I missed something) and I never encounter any problems since they delivered well upon their withdrawals/deposits and anything. volumes on each alts are pretty good and that is the most important for me.


How well designed is the website?  Is the interface easy to navigate?  Signing up drawn-out project?  Do they have an app supported by android or apple?

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July 17, 2017, 12:50:33 PM
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There are many exchanges that do have a poor service indeed as i have encountered some of them particularly on coinbase. however i noticed that exchanges with the biggest

volumes doesn't included, i suppose op haven't tried them yet. go for either poloniex or bittrex. for me what i mainly use is poloniex because they have the largest volumes and

they don't easily add coins although the downside is they are very strict on people who who have a large amount of withdrawal/deposit. and depends on your device the site may

be a little bit laggy for you. i tested it on my low-end laptop it laggs but not on my main which have mid-tier specs.

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July 17, 2017, 02:14:22 PM
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There are many exchanges that do have a poor service indeed as i have encountered some of them particularly on coinbase. however i noticed that exchanges with the biggest

volumes doesn't included, i suppose op haven't tried them yet. go for either poloniex or bittrex. for me what i mainly use is poloniex because they have the largest volumes and

they don't easily add coins although the downside is they are very strict on people who who have a large amount of withdrawal/deposit. and depends on your device the site may

be a little bit laggy for you. i tested it on my low-end laptop it laggs but not on my main which have mid-tier specs.

Either have an easy to use app like Coinbase? That's huge for me. The world is now mobile and I'm busy..  Coinbase makes it that much easier when it comes to buying and selling BTC, ETH and LTC than any other exchange I've used or have spent a good amount of time researching.

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July 17, 2017, 02:43:40 PM
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Kraken is quite good. What did you not like about them?
Kraken is horrible, I mean when they got DDOSd multiple times and liquidated accounts full of BTC/LTC/etc. and people lost tens of thousands, they blamed it on them. At least when Poloniex got screwed they paid people back. Now Poloniex sucks incredibly, but I wouldn't trust any exchange that treats clients in such a way
I didn't know about that. I will make sure next time I use them to transfer my cryptos to a wallet.
I never had a problem with bittrex, I think at the moment it is the most reliable trading sites as it is growing.
My experience was really good in bittrex, transactions are very fast (withdrawal/deposits) and there are a lot of coins listed that
has a good volume, not maybe a big volume like poloniex but they are growing.
I've heard about them, sounds like a good exchange. I might use them sometime but at the moment I don't really have a problem with Kraken. I deposited some Euro yesterday by SEPA and got them today on my account.
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July 17, 2017, 09:40:05 PM
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Would you like me to outline even more ways that bitcoin saves me money vs the traditional financial system? Or would you like to continue to base your opinion on what people are telling you you should do? Perhaps in your region there are mitigating factors that give you fewer options, but from where I sit, along with many others in similar situations, Bitcoin already offers more cost effective options and, as you quoted, are increasingly offering more. I anticipate I'll be using bitcoin for 90% of my financial dealings .

at the moment 90% might be far fetched but it is definitely possible if the right players support the technology
right now i'm happy to be able to order pizza and pay in btc - which i can since last week. a step forward
 
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This is exactly right.  I've sent a VERY simple question to Coinbase that any schmuck with a 1 hour online training course of knowledge could have answered ( 4 weeks ago ) and have yet to receive a response.  Like you said..They've raked in more than any of them ever imagined this quickly.  It seems to me they have become quite complacent with status-quo and aren't serious about advancing Bitcoins existence and commonality.  

These exchanges seem to break some of the most simple business 101's.

Domino's and Panera are two good examples of companies who've decided to make things SO DAMN EASY for their customers by implementing such basic and simple ideas into their technology (websites and app's) that it has resulted into skyrocketing share prices.  I am not saying these exchanges are the multi-billion dollar powerhouses that are Dominos and Panera ..but slight improvements like these companies have made can go a long way.

It's hard to hear expenses for improvement are too vast. I'm quite confident profits major exchanges have realized are obscene and if they aren't as abundant as I assume they have been then I'm positive that they wouldn't have that hard of a time finding VC's to help foot the bill.  Just my 2.

I guess that as long as these crypto businesses (ICOs and exchangers) can continue to defy the conventional wisdom of business and plough through with incredible profits while ignoring the very basic needs of working customer service, they won't be changing their business model any time soon.

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July 19, 2017, 02:27:54 AM
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FUD was a trend

On 17 Aug almost (all) parties used segwit and it started signalling.
It is a good news.
FUD is less now.

WE ARE FACING SEGWIT,.... buckle up, we are better now, get ready.
HODL (or buy more)
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