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July 16, 2017, 08:37:55 AM
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Which wallet can keep both kinds of Bitcoin after 1st Aug?

If there will be chain-split, I want to keep my BTC right now in wallet whitch will be able to access two kinds of BTC after 1st Aug & ofcourse, whitch is safe.

Is there anyone with information about it? ( except personal hard disk wallet.. that's too difficult for me )
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July 25, 2017, 09:38:45 PM
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It seems to me that the very formulation of the question of which purse after the first of August can store two types of bitcoins is premature. Perhaps there will be no separation and all worries will be in vain. In addition, it is unlikely that anyone now calls such a purse.
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July 25, 2017, 09:47:38 PM
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It seems to me that the very formulation of the question of which purse after the first of August can store two types of bitcoins is premature. Perhaps there will be no separation and all worries will be in vain. In addition, it is unlikely that anyone now calls such a purse.

Don't listen to this guy. He's speaking nonsense and only made this post to get paid. If one were to wait until after a potential split to select which wallet to protect their bitcoin in the event of a split, they'd be...too late!



If there will be chain-split, I want to keep my BTC right now in wallet whitch will be able to access two kinds of BTC after 1st Aug & ofcourse, whitch is safe.

Is there anyone with information about it? ( except personal hard disk wallet.. that's too difficult for me )

There's a lot of people with information about it. The frustrating part of your question is that you clearly didn't try to look for the answers you seek before posting a new thread. If you spent 5 minutes looking around this forum you'd find a thread or 5 talking about this exact same issue!

First, you need to know what you're protecting against. Anyone with control of bitcoin will have the opportunity to select which version of bitcoin coin they want to use in the event of a split. The tricky part is having control of bitcoin. If you don't have possession of the private keys of your wallet you don't actually control bitcoin. Generally speaking, keep your bitcoin off of the online exchanges/online wallets unless they give you access to your private keys or have stated that they'll guarantee you'll have the choice of which coin to proceed with post-split.

Next, read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012799.0. All you need to know is in this thread.
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July 25, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
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If you have your private key, there will be no problem. You can import your bitcoins to a proper wallet whenever you want. If you don't know your private key try to export that. For now this is enough.
If you don't want to use hardware wallets, I think the best choice is Greenaddress.it which is an online wallet.

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July 25, 2017, 10:04:56 PM
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private keys is the main thing to have in this spot. As long as you have those you should be able to figure out everything else. Just do not store your BTC on an exchange or third-party website. If you do so you may not reap the benefit of the fork in regards to BCC
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July 25, 2017, 10:14:10 PM
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If you have your private key, there will be no problem. You can import your bitcoins to a proper wallet whenever you want. If you don't know your private key try to export that. For now this is enough.
If you don't want to use hardware wallets, I think the best choice is Greenaddress.it which is an online wallet.

I own in BitAddress my HODLing quote, are you then saying it's ok?
I don't own "directly" the PrivKey, but neither them... I have PIN and Mnemonic.

They stated any forked coin won't be accepted, so supposing the extreme scenario with BCC killing BTC, how can I "claim" my BCC since I own BTC?

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July 25, 2017, 10:34:08 PM
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Which wallet can keep both kinds of Bitcoin after 1st Aug?

If there will be chain-split, I want to keep my BTC right now in wallet whitch will be able to access two kinds of BTC after 1st Aug & ofcourse, whitch is safe.

Is there anyone with information about it? ( except personal hard disk wallet.. that's too difficult for me )

Electum wallet, bitcoin core wallet and the wallets of exchangers declaring they will support forked coins will be able to support bitcoin and forked bitcoins.
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July 25, 2017, 10:49:04 PM
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You only need the Bitcoin Core wallet on your computer.  Then if anyone gives a shit about this other new currency, you can get the wallet for that later at anytime if you have your private keys.

Nobody gives a shit about Koinye, or Litecoin..or other less know alt coins.
Bitpay, overstock, gyft, purse, Lamboghini, McLaren, Richard Branson,,, all accept BITCOIN.. not litecoin.. not etherm and not whatever new bullcrap Fork Fags make.

Only Bitcoin has wide acceptance.
Only Bitcoin has the payment processors accepting it.
Not even Etherum is accepted at coffee shops and car dealers.
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July 25, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
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I think the best choice is Greenaddress.it which is an online wallet.
Green Address involves shared access of your funds.  If you're using Green Address for convenience, you should know that it requires a signature from both you and Green Address.

You have to use their 2-of-3 multisignature wallets to have control over your funds and therefore the ability to transport them to another wallet without having to fully trust Green Address.  You can also use their nLocktime transactions to send your funds out of Green Address into a separate wallet by a certain time, meaning that if Green Address stopped their service, your funds would be safe.
You only need the Bitcoin Core wallet on your computer.
Or just any wallet which allows control of your private keys.  If you're in a rush you should use a wallet which promises to support easy spending on both chains, otherwise any wallet is fine.
Nobody gives a shit about Koinye, or Litecoin..or other less know alt coins.
Bitpay, overstock, gyft, purse, Lamboghini, McLaren, Richard Branson,,, all accept BITCOIN.. not litecoin.. not etherm and not whatever new bullcrap Fork Fags make.
They fucking well do give a shit if they lose money that they're entitled to though, as in forked coins that they should automatically own.

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July 25, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
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You will only be able to spend on one chain with one wallet.

Information on the top of the forums...

If you have your private key, there will be no problem. You can import your bitcoins to a proper wallet whenever you want. If you don't know your private key try to export that. For now this is enough.
If you don't want to use hardware wallets, I think the best choice is Greenaddress.it which is an online wallet.

Avoid online wallets...


I don't own "directly" the PrivKey, but neither them...

They stated any forked coin won't be accepted, so supposing the extreme scenario with BCC killing BTC, how can I "claim" my BCC since I own BTC?

They obviously own the private key, otherwise how would they give you a deposit address and store your coins?

As for the second part I'll avoid semantics issues and go straight to the point, you can claim by owning a private key with your coins.

(...)Lamboghini (...) all accept BITCOIN.. not litecoin.. not etherm and not whatever new bullcrap Fork Fags make.

Lamborghini does not accept Bitcoin.
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July 26, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
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If you have your private key, there will be no problem. You can import your bitcoins to a proper wallet whenever you want. If you don't know your private key try to export that. For now this is enough.
If you don't want to use hardware wallets, I think the best choice is Greenaddress.it which is an online wallet.

Avoid online wallets...
Green Address is not a stereotypical online wallet.

They do not require full trust in the service, because your transaction has to be signed by both you and Green Address.  It's a multisignature online wallet.  They also have the ability to do 2-of-3 transactions in which you can sign a transactions from two of your devices when necessary, meaning that you have basically no trust in Green Address at all.

They are far from ideal, but it would be perfectly acceptable if for whatever reason you would find it difficult to run a software-based wallet.  You do have control over your funds.

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July 26, 2017, 06:25:04 PM
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I have heard that it is going to be Blockchain.info wallet, but I don't have any proves or the exactly source unfortunately.
I don't know why we need to even worry about such thing, cause of the price is going to be the same for both kinds.
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July 26, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
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You should hold your coins in wallet that gives you private key of your bitcoin address and the one out there is electrum. They might not enable BCC wallet after split but you can export your private key from your electrum wallet which you can use with any BCC compatible wallet after august 1 to move your BCC coin out of your address.
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You only need the Bitcoin Core wallet on your computer.  Then if anyone gives a shit about this other new currency, you can get the wallet for that later at anytime if you have your private keys.

It's easy to tell advice to use Bitcoin Core wallet. But not everything is simple. Not all people have fast internet connection - it take very long time to download full blockchain with this wallet. And I believe that some bitcoin users from poor countries don't have personal computers and they only can use smartphones.

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July 26, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
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I don't know why we need to even worry about such thing, cause of the price is going to be the same for both kinds.

Because we need to protect our bitcoin, not all online wallets or exchanges gives their user access to their private keys or give a choice in which coin to use. Whatever happens on August 1, it is always better to be safe. if your wallet does not let you have your private keys, then you should move your coins to any wallet that lets you control your bitcoin. this is just to be safe, it does not mean there will be a split.
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July 26, 2017, 10:55:51 PM
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Both Ledger and Trezor devs have said you will have access to both your btc and bcc in Nano S or Trezor wallet. A firmware update may be required but the company will do the splitting for you which is the most convenient choice I have seen. Nano S is out of stock until September but you can still get a Trezor. Do realize that bcc will not even exist until August 1. The Bitcoin ABC client is being run by a few hundred people including miners but will mine bitcoin until the hard fork when bcc begins.

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July 29, 2017, 01:04:39 AM
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It seems to me that the very formulation of the question of which purse after the first of August can store two types of bitcoins is premature. Perhaps there will be no separation and all worries will be in vain. In addition, it is unlikely that anyone now calls such a purse.

Don't listen to this guy. He's speaking nonsense and only made this post to get paid. If one were to wait until after a potential split to select which wallet to protect their bitcoin in the event of a split, they'd be...too late!



If there will be chain-split, I want to keep my BTC right now in wallet whitch will be able to access two kinds of BTC after 1st Aug & ofcourse, whitch is safe.

Is there anyone with information about it? ( except personal hard disk wallet.. that's too difficult for me )

There's a lot of people with information about it. The frustrating part of your question is that you clearly didn't try to look for the answers you seek before posting a new thread. If you spent 5 minutes looking around this forum you'd find a thread or 5 talking about this exact same issue!

First, you need to know what you're protecting against. Anyone with control of bitcoin will have the opportunity to select which version of bitcoin coin they want to use in the event of a split. The tricky part is having control of bitcoin. If you don't have possession of the private keys of your wallet you don't actually control bitcoin. Generally speaking, keep your bitcoin off of the online exchanges/online wallets unless they give you access to your private keys or have stated that they'll guarantee you'll have the choice of which coin to proceed with post-split.

Next, read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012799.0. All you need to know is in this thread.

Thank you for your information. I've heard about private keys many times. But it is too difficult for me to access all two bitcoins with a private key.

The company I want is, which provides easy deposit and withdraw for two kinds of bitcoins that can be split in the future.

I am already informed that Kraken & few other markets provide access of two kinds of BTC if they have BTC before 1st AUG. till after 1st AUG. Is there any other wallet service which also provide service like that?

It's just 3days left;;;
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July 29, 2017, 01:19:44 AM
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Which wallet can keep both kinds of Bitcoin after 1st Aug?

If there will be chain-split, I want to keep my BTC right now in wallet whitch will be able to access two kinds of BTC after 1st Aug & ofcourse, whitch is safe.

Is there anyone with information about it? ( except personal hard disk wallet.. that's too difficult for me )

Seems to be a bit late for the August first hard work, but at least you are making the move. Some wallets that will keep you protected for the hard fork, that is probably not even going to happen at all include any types of cold storage or any wallet that gives you access to your own private keys, instead of the wallet holding the keys for you.

Types of cold storage include:

1. Ledgerwallets/trezor wallets, which are hardware wallets.
2. Paper wallets, a document to store your private keys.
3. Physical bitcoin.

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July 29, 2017, 01:20:49 AM
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So move your bitcoin to Kraken or a Trezor. Get busy.

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July 29, 2017, 01:42:31 AM
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Everything is in the internet brother. Try to search some.

Well, as long as you have your private key and you store your coins there everything is safe even the split will happen. You dont have to worry.
Storing coins in an offline wallet rather in online is the safest and secured, no one cam hack it but be careful not to have viruses in your desktop.

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