New Poker Brand for BTC

[eking657]

Hey thank you for responding.
Honestly, I'm not relying on bringing in new players by posting on this thread. Players come from marketing. But to fully understand how to market you got to engage with your users. From what I learned so far, BTC poker players are not the same as the typical fiat players you get on all the regular sites. So I opened this thread to get as much input as I can.

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[eking657]

Hello forum members.

I am currently under development of a new software for a poker room. We are looking to launch our brand probably within the first 2 weeks of this upcoming September. Needless to say, the poker room will be completely bitcoin based, and our mission is to grow and give out white-labels to potential partners. We are working extremely hard, to get a unique angle to this poker room.
However, before launching, I was wondering what players on bitcointalk think about BTC poker sites.
If any of you can give me your take on it. What are YOU looking for in a BTC poker room.

Deposit and Withdrawal Time?
Minimum Dep and Withdrawal?
Rakeback?
Licenses for your region?
Customer support? Language? Live-Chat
What currency to host the games in?
Freerolls?
Free money to sign up?
Rake percentage?

These are some serious concerns I would like to address, as I am sure that some or perhaps ALL of these questions have either stopped you from registering or have left you with little faith to deposit.

The more information I get from you guys the better I can build this thing!
PS - Please give reasonable answers. Obviously no one would expect to receive 1BTC no deposit and withdraw auto. So keep it REAL and perhaps our new brand will be the next PokerStars of Bitcoin!

Thank you in Advance.

I agree with what you are trying to do here by getting input before launch however I think the only important factor is start-up capital.

Programming and developement these days is very cheap compared to the required capital needed to run a gambling site.

I think unless you got at least >25BTC available for gambling capital then the rest shouldn't be attempted.

Reason being you might have a bad week and one whale can take the entire sites BTC wallet and what happens then? Everybody who deposited will get nothing.

Hey thank you for responding

25BTC or around $50K is around the first phase marketing budget that I'm putting into this - pure marketing. Not promos. I'm not worried about the whale, he's welcome to join we'll be fine 😃

[SyGambler]

the topic will have a lot of spams ( started at post number 1 which was clearly a spam ) , so it's too much hustle for you
if you are serious about the site you should simply try to offer what others site not offering and at the same time don't lose money
so a higher rakeback or a good vip system should be great , also of course a good software

and my best advice is not to offer crazy freerolls , cause during my experience here freerolls weren't a success at all
sites that offered big freerolls at their launch  don't exist now , players who cashed simply made withdrawals
so true poker players don't need freerolls , it would be better if you offer freerolls for real players like rake X amount and win a ticket

[eking657]

the topic will have a lot of spams ( started at post number 1 which was clearly a spam ) , so it's too much hustle for you
if you are serious about the site you should simply try to offer what others site not offering and at the same time don't lose money
so a higher rakeback or a good vip system should be great , also of course a good software

and my best advice is not to offer crazy freerolls , cause during my experience here freerolls weren't a success at all
sites that offered big freerolls at their launch  don't exist now , players who cashed simply made withdrawals
so true poker players don't need freerolls , it would be better if you offer freerolls for real players like rake X amount and win a ticket

Thanks for your input.
Not planning on crazy freerolls, but don't you think a few freerolls a day will bring Afew potential real players to try the software out?

[actmyname]

Thanks for your input.
Not planning on crazy freerolls, but don't you think a few freerolls a day will bring Afew potential real players to try the software out?

No.

ONE freeroll maximum (for a small reward) without any prerequisites. The rest should have X rake accumulation requirements so you know it's real players. Then it becomes an additional rakeback opportunity.You want to reward persistent players with freerolls, not the degenerate masses that will flood in.

[inoes]

Thanks for your input.
Not planning on crazy freerolls, but don't you think a few freerolls a day will bring Afew potential real players to try the software out?

No.

ONE freeroll maximum (for a small reward) without any prerequisites. The rest should have X rake accumulation requirements so you know it's real players. Then it becomes an additional rakeback opportunity.You want to reward persistent players with freerolls, not the degenerate masses that will flood in.

agreed with that
if you have new poker site please dont make creazy freeroll with big prize pool , im sure you can got flooded fake player on there after the freeroll finished everyone just leave and withdraw your free money with nothing feedback.

daily freeroll its good advice for started promotion

[masterzino]

"I am currently under development of a new software for a poker room."

We don't need a Brand. We need a poker room with adequate management to acquire enough traffic for normal play. Currently if a bitcoin poker room have more than a single ring table running, it's like a real holiday.

IMO the best way to promote it is to have MTTs with guaranteed or added coins to the prize pools. Freerolls are only attracting... freerollers.

[eking657]

"I am currently under development of a new software for a poker room."

We don't need a Brand. We need a poker room with adequate management to acquire enough traffic for normal play. Currently if a bitcoin poker room have more than a single ring table running, it's like a real holiday.

IMO the best way to promote it is to have MTTs with guaranteed or added coins to the prize pools. Freerolls are only attracting... freerollers.

I agree! I have already taken into consideration the possibility of losing afew bitcoins over GTD tournaments for the first 3-5 months of launch. But also for cash players, we are now coding a new system for rakeback, where you will see how much rakeback you are generating on the fly, per session. ill shed out some more info on that regards closer to launch time.

thank you for your feedback. Its always good to hear

[stevebc]

Free money to signup is always good.

I have better things to do with my time than gamble, but if sites want to give me a chunk of money for spinning some colorful slot machine, or flipping card on screen - well they are paying me so I'll do it:)

[cdb1690]

If you haven't done so already, try asking the same question on 2+2 forum. I'd also advise you to study current business and legal environment. To do that, try either onlinepokerreport or pokerindustrypro - this is paid service, but I think it's worth it (or at least it was back when I was using it).

[eking657]

If you haven't done so already, try asking the same question on 2+2 forum. I'd also advise you to study current business and legal environment. To do that, try either onlinepokerreport or pokerindustrypro - this is paid service, but I think it's worth it (or at least it was back when I was using it).

I haven't asked on 2+2 yet. I'll give it a shot. In my opinion though, the average poker player on fiat currencies wouldn't feel the same about a btc brand. But, Ill try regardless.

thank you for the websites, I know onlinepokerreport. Ill check the other one out for sure.


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[Avirunes]

Poker is a group game so basic target should be to drive in
nice amount players in table which a poker can do by making some daily programs and freerolls. Without it a poker site can become dull very soon (as what happened with luckyflop)

You can also achieve the same by making another platform (maybe like dice or sports betting or casino )along with it.

Also I think something like Lolyalty token/program would be good for making gamblers stick to site.

[BTCevo]

Thanks for your input.
Not planning on crazy freerolls, but don't you think a few freerolls a day will bring Afew potential real players to try the software out?

No.

ONE freeroll maximum (for a small reward) without any prerequisites. The rest should have X rake accumulation requirements so you know it's real players. Then it becomes an additional rakeback opportunity.You want to reward persistent players with freerolls, not the degenerate masses that will flood in.

agreed with that
if you have new poker site please dont make creazy freeroll with big prize pool , im sure you can got flooded fake player on there after the freeroll finished everyone just leave and withdraw your free money with nothing feedback.

daily freeroll its good advice for started promotion

Somehow if they have good security, they should be able to maintain only one account per ip, so i do not think there is bothering thing to make huge freeroll. More over if one new site is made, of course they need some huge prize to attract some players, so many of them will try to win something here, without these things, there will be no players and your site will be down for sure

[kodes88]

Hello forum members.

I am currently under development of a new software for a poker room. We are looking to launch our brand probably within the first 2 weeks of this upcoming September. Needless to say, the poker room will be completely bitcoin based, and our mission is to grow and give out white-labels to potential partners. We are working extremely hard, to get a unique angle to this poker room.
However, before launching, I was wondering what players on bitcointalk think about BTC poker sites.
If any of you can give me your take on it. What are YOU looking for in a BTC poker room.

Deposit and Withdrawal Time?
Minimum Dep and Withdrawal?
Rakeback?
Licenses for your region?
Customer support? Language? Live-Chat
What currency to host the games in?
Freerolls?
Free money to sign up?
Rake percentage?

These are some serious concerns I would like to address, as I am sure that some or perhaps ALL of these questions have either stopped you from registering or have left you with little faith to deposit.

The more information I get from you guys the better I can build this thing!
PS - Please give reasonable answers. Obviously no one would expect to receive 1BTC no deposit and withdraw auto. So keep it REAL and perhaps our new brand will be the next PokerStars of Bitcoin!

Thank you in Advance.

I agree with what you are trying to do here by getting input before launch however I think the only important factor is start-up capital.

Programming and developement these days is very cheap compared to the required capital needed to run a gambling site.

I think unless you got at least >25BTC available for gambling capital then the rest shouldn't be attempted.

Reason being you might have a bad week and one whale can take the entire sites BTC wallet and what happens then? Everybody who deposited will get nothing.

Hey thank you for responding

25BTC or around $50K is around the first phase marketing budget that I'm putting into this - pure marketing. Not promos. I'm not worried about the whale, he's welcome to join we'll be fine 😃

25BTC for starting promotion your site?its good enough,i think people with big budget will easy to promote their site.
in my opinon,
Deposit and Withdrawal Time? this is should be anytime,of course
Minimum Dep and Withdrawal? if you can,this should be unlimited
Rakeback? this is your choice
Licenses for your region? if you can,all country
Customer support? Language? Live-Chat must have
What currency to host the games in? bitcoin and etherum enough
Freerolls? yes
Free money to sign up? for a  week or month will be good

[eking657]

Thanks for your input.
Not planning on crazy freerolls, but don't you think a few freerolls a day will bring Afew potential real players to try the software out?

No.

ONE freeroll maximum (for a small reward) without any prerequisites. The rest should have X rake accumulation requirements so you know it's real players. Then it becomes an additional rakeback opportunity.You want to reward persistent players with freerolls, not the degenerate masses that will flood in.

agreed with that
if you have new poker site please dont make creazy freeroll with big prize pool , im sure you can got flooded fake player on there after the freeroll finished everyone just leave and withdraw your free money with nothing feedback.

daily freeroll its good advice for started promotion

Somehow if they have good security, they should be able to maintain only one account per ip, so i do not think there is bothering thing to make huge freeroll. More over if one new site is made, of course they need some huge prize to attract some players, so many of them will try to win something here, without these things, there will be no players and your site will be down for sure

Thanks for your input.
The issues revolving security measures are way more elaborate than simply having one account per i.p. infact, most poker rooms close due to security breaches that get out of control. It is hard to maintain, but I honestly believe that we have what it takes to make our users feel secure while depositing, withdrawing and playing on our tables.

Freerolls and other promos I suppose MUST be on every poker brand. However, I do agree with the previous post that there is no need to overextend free cash. We are working on a new system, a new type of game that will allow new users to be able to win some very nice prizes/cash without having to risk anything (or a very small amount). It will be a perfect game to introduce them to real money. More info ahead

[GoodLuck2]

Hey thank you for responding.
Honestly, I'm not relying on bringing in new players by posting on this thread. Players come from marketing. But to fully understand how to market you got to engage with your users. From what I learned so far, BTC poker players are not the same as the typical fiat players you get on all the regular sites. So I opened this thread to get as much input as I can.

It is easiest way to understand the marketing bitcoin. But yes you are right they not even fiat players. Everyone comes from a random websites. Play here. If some of them are lucky then they can easily swap a market while other are seeking the problem how to win. But BTC poker players are the genius players who can win everywhere in gambling sites of bitcoin.

[hashshashin]

For me what is the most important being a  big gambler is the licence. I am forced to declare any winnings every year and if the casino is not legit, it can be bad for me.

As deposit time, I think now it is not a problem, 1 confirmation is still quite fast.

What  I would like to see is multiple crypto over there and the coins to be changed and users to play only with chips from the website.

[eking657]

For me what is the most important being a  big gambler is the licence. I am forced to declare any winnings every year and if the casino is not legit, it can be bad for me.

As deposit time, I think now it is not a problem, 1 confirmation is still quite fast.

What  I would like to see is multiple crypto over there and the coins to be changed and users to play only with chips from the website.

Hi. thanks for your feedback.

We will have multiple crypro-currency option for deposit and withdrawal. Once you deposit in lets say, btc, you will have btc in your poker wallet. Once you sit on a cash table, your btc you bring with you to the table will get converted to USD (on demand) and automatically back to btc when leaving the table. This way you can have multiple cryptos in your poker wallet and play with players that have deposited in a different crypto.

[eking657]

Free money to signup is always good.

I have better things to do with my time than gamble, but if sites want to give me a chunk of money for spinning some colorful slot machine, or flipping card on screen - well they are paying me so I'll do it:)

We have decided against giving away free money.
We will have daily freerolls and a new type of tournament for new players. Where you can make some real BIG prizes without having to deposit.
Will keep you updated.

[cjmoles]

Right off the top I can say that the differences between bitcoin users and fiat users, is that bitcoin users expect to have their deposits and withdrawals expedited without hassle, they do not want to be burdened by the KYC/AML restrictions, and they want accurate bitcoin to usd price discovery.  If you do not plan to provide those assurances, then you might as well use fiat...