BFL Reliable?

[Xian01]

And... another ~1000 units shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.

Are you seriously that stupid, egocentric, delusional, lacking in self awareness, and insane to have just made a comparison with a company that has only recently started shipping product, and you were supposed to start shipping volume almost twelve months ago ? <sup>*

*</sup> I don't like to stoop to this base level of discourse, but with Joshua Zerlan, COO of Butterfly Labs, it is fully warranted and justified given his history on these forums.

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[Syke]

And... another ~1000 units shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.

It only took you 6 months to ramp up to the number of units KnC ramped up to in two weeks. WTG!!! Also, those KnC units are faster than your Minirigs. How many Minirigs did you ship in that day?

[th3joker]

Who do you contact to request someone be given a scammer tag?

[Tehfiend]

And... another ~1000 units shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.

Are you seriously that stupid, egocentric, delusional, lacking in self awareness, and insane to have just made a comparison with a company that has only recently started shipping product, and you were supposed to start shipping volume almost twelve months ago ? <sup>*

*</sup> I don't like to stoop to this base level of discourse, but with Joshua Zerlan, COO of Butterfly Labs, it is fully warranted and justified given his history on these forums.

Xian01 save your breath he knows all of this. He knows it would be silly for ASICminer to come and brag about all of the worthless 300mhash block erupters they have shipped which is basically what he is doing. His posts are not for people paying attention and know that KNC is almost done shipping all of the 500GH units ordered in June while he is shipping 5GH units ordered who knows how long ago. He is just trying to post FUD for people that see his ads who are not sure who to believe.

[southerngentuk]

Let me help you out here..

And... another ~1000 unwanted doorstops shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... @ 5 times the price per GH in just one day.
Look how much better we are at screwing our customers than KNC.

[ScaryHash]

It's always interesting to see the BFL shills come out.

1000 units today only?

What about the other 8 months of backlog that you will not compensate people for late shipping?

And, for the record, yes, I am a recovering BFL sucker. Still waiting for my Jalepenos...which will probably ship when the hashing power they provide is totally worthless, not even by next week.

I honestly cannot fathom how this company is still in business. 9+ months of waiting for a product? That's just ridiculous.

[Xian01]

Who do you contact to request someone be given a scammer tag?

 Butterfly Labs has made substantial advertising contributions to Theymos, estimated near 2,500 BTC, and have effectively earned themselves immunity on these forums from official sanction.

[th3joker]

Who do you contact to request someone be given a scammer tag?

 Butterfly Labs has made substantial advertising contributions to Theymos, estimated near 2,500 BTC, and have effectively earned themselves immunity on these forums from official sanction.

Capitalism is King as well as corrupt ;-)

[southerngentuk]

Capitalism is King as well as corrupt ;-)

Which is the very reason a lot of us our here, as we dislike the banking/corporation greed and inspire to a system of trust and honesty, in money at least.

Shipping G/H's of miners that are now economically redundant is just increasing hash rate for the sake of company profits and harmful to bitcoin as it removes incentive.

Most miners at this stage are choosing there purchases extremely carefully (if at all), however bfl's cost per G/H is now involuntary for most.

BFL's reckless business model is based greed and arrogance.

Cue Inaba to tell us how we don't understand how bitcoin works.

[balanghai]

Reliable as grass?

[th3joker]

Capitalism is King as well as corrupt ;-)

Which is the very reason a lot of us our here, as we dislike the banking/corporation greed and inspire to a system of trust and honesty, in money at least.

Shipping G/H's of miners that are now economically redundant is just increasing hash rate for the sake of company profits and harmful to bitcoin as it removes incentive.

Most miners at this stage are choosing there purchases extremely carefully (if at all), however bfl's cost per G/H is now involuntary for most.

BFL's reckless business model is based greed and arrogance.

Cue Inaba to tell us how we don't understand how bitcoin works.

Unfortunately it's a human failing and bitcoin appears to have been hit quite hard for some time by the less scrupulous. As you say I became interested because of the transparency, sadly people like Josh (Inaba) have taken much and given little other than promises and lies.

[Bicknellski]

And... another ~1000 units shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.

1000 units? Evidence?

Tape out / design for Monarch Chip? Evidence?

Refunds? People are waiting given they have a legal right you should be providing REFUNDS.

Unreliable. Do not buy from BFL.


Seriously I wonder at what point in time does the AG in KS determine what BFL is doing is fraud?

Fraud is commonly understood as dishonesty calculated for advantage. A person who is dishonest may be called a fraud. In the U.S. legal system, fraud is a specific offense with certain features.

Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant's actions involved five separate elements: (1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue, (3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim, (4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud

[Bicknellski]

And... another ~1000 units shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.

Are you seriously that stupid, egocentric, delusional, lacking in self awareness, and insane to have just made a comparison with a company that has only recently started shipping product, and you were supposed to start shipping volume almost twelve months ago ? <sup>*

*</sup> I don't like to stoop to this base level of discourse, but with Joshua Zerlan, COO of Butterfly Labs, it is fully warranted and justified given his history on these forums.

I vote for seriously that stupid or purposefully obtuse.

[User705]

And... another ~1000 units shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.

Why you are able to ship 1000 units today but couldn't do so a month or two ago?  What could possibly have changed in actual production?

[Bicknellski]

And... another ~1000 units shipped today.  1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.

Why you are able to ship 1000 units today but couldn't do so a month or two ago?  What could possibly have changed in actual production?

Nothing... just turned off 1000 they were mining with and repackaged them for shipping out. Guessing.

[th3joker]

I've asked them to ship mine now, but guess what. No response what a surprise.

[Bicknellski]

I've asked them to ship mine now, but guess what. No response what a surprise.

Start a refund somehow... good luck.

[th3joker]

They said no then put my orders on hold. I asked them to ship them instead and they won't reply, nice ethics there.

[faetos]

You know, nothing drives posts in a thread like  an Inaba post.

[Xian01]

You know, nothing drives posts in a thread like  an Inaba post.