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June 21, 2011, 12:53:35 AM
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Ok so I'm been reading this forum for sometime now. I understand exactly what this economy is missing to really have it jump off. That my fellow bitcoin lovers is PHONE SERVICE.

Basically how this would work is we set up a site, similar to forbitcoins.com or even feverr.com Members join and browse all the featured phones we have in stock with options for service. I know of nothing like this in existence. People will bad credit or no credit can now get phones on a monthly plan. All they need is a bank account, a dwolla account and btw exchange acc. The site would be members only of course and based on a strict rating system. What i mean is top members like myself and other members with phone connections will be the top choices. (ill get into this later)

ill need a sick coder to implement:
payment/monthly bill directly from the site.
sleek, one button pay
Rating system
top providers
hottest deals
forum integration
live chat rooms (ex envolve.com)


Once members select a phone then a service plan they will then be billed through the website monthly. Emailed billing included. (6-10 btc)


ill be the the president that oversees everything. I also want a full team behind me getting this done. This site will operate just like an apple store. Geniuses & Btc experts, moderators and then regular members.

Ok on to the products.

Right now I have ten iphone 4s (black) activated on at&t basic talk and text 700mins. I have a friend and relatives that work for apple and as well as at&t. I had to beg them to pull strings and in return they can quit there jobs and join the resistance. Really If these first ten go smooth then ill have an unlimited supply of cell phones I can order in bulk. Remember at@t  doesn't care how phones get out  as long as they have x amount of upgrades at the end of the month. I hope everyone catches my drift.

This is an overall outline of whats already in the works. I've bought a domain. I'm calling the site WorldAmmo.com - The revolution.
https://worldammo.com - Another thing, I bought a certificate but for some reason its saying its invalid.

I hope you guys don't think I'm in over my head with this. Im just a poor homeless kid leaving out of my car and free wifi spots. I think this is a great idea that can go really far. Your feedback is much appreciated.

PS. I need coders to step forward immediately. This can't work if its not coded right.

Lets take over the world like Satoshi Nakamoto envisioned…
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June 21, 2011, 12:56:58 AM
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Ok so I'm been reading this forum for sometime now. I understand exactly what this economy is missing to really have it jump off. That my fellow bitcoin lovers is PHONE SERVICE.

Basically how this would work is we set up a site, similar to forbitcoins.com or even feverr.com Members join and browse all the featured phones we have in stock with options for service. I know of nothing like this in existence. People will bad credit or no credit can now get phones on a monthly plan. All they need is a bank account, a dwolla account and btw exchange acc. The site would be members only of course and based on a strict rating system. What i mean is top members like myself and other members with phone connections will be the top choices. (ill get into this later)

ill need a sick coder to implement:
payment/monthly bill directly from the site.
sleek, one button pay
Rating system
top providers
hottest deals
forum integration
live chat rooms (ex envolve.com)


Once members select a phone then a service plan they will then be billed through the website monthly. Emailed billing included. (6-10 btc)


ill be the the president that oversees everything. I also want a full team behind me getting this done. This site will operate just like an apple store. Geniuses & Btc experts, moderators and then regular members.

Ok on to the products.

Right now I have ten iphone 4s (black) activated on at&t basic talk and text 700mins. I have a friend and relatives that work for apple and as well as at&t. I had to beg them to pull strings and in return they can quit there jobs and join the resistance. Really If these first ten go smooth then ill have an unlimited supply of cell phones I can order in bulk. Remember at@t  doesn't care how phones get out  as long as they have x amount of upgrades at the end of the month. I hope everyone catches my drift.

This is an overall outline of whats already in the works. I've bought a domain. I'm calling the site WorldAmmo.com - The revolution.
https://worldammo.com - Another thing, I bought a certificate but for some reason its saying its invalid.

I hope you guys don't think I'm in over my head with this. Im just a poor homeless kid leaving out of my car and free wifi spots. I think this is a great idea that can go really far. Your feedback is much appreciated.

PS. I need coders to step forward immediately. This can't work if its not coded right.

Lets take over the world like Satoshi Nakamoto envisioned…

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June 21, 2011, 01:00:15 AM
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June 21, 2011, 01:11:40 AM
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+1

RALLY.
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June 21, 2011, 02:13:46 AM
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ok? awesome..
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June 21, 2011, 02:24:47 AM
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Take no mind of our current terrible board trolls. Good on you for thinking outside the box. I hope things work out well for you.
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June 21, 2011, 02:35:56 AM
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Take no mind of our current terrible board trolls. Good on you for thinking outside the box. I hope things work out well for you.

I appreciate it man, for second i started to doubt myself :/

Im going to look around freelancer.com for a coder to implement the bitcoin side at least.

I will keep everyone posted.
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June 21, 2011, 07:24:30 AM
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I got a better idea:

iPhone Mining App!!!!!!!!111!11!!1!!1!!!!!!!!111

I'm going to start coding this tonight!!!11!!!1!!!!!11!!


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I'll keep my politics out of your economics if you keep your economics out of my politics.

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June 21, 2011, 07:26:40 AM
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I got a better idea:

iPhone Mining App!!!!!!!!111!11!!1!!1!!!!!!!!111

I'm going to start coding this tonight!!!11!!!1!!!!!11!!


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Wait what? Is it an app that monitors the mining on your mining rigs? Or is it an app that mines on your iPhone, because that would be really... [facepalm.png]

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June 22, 2011, 02:59:50 AM
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I got a better idea:

iPhone Mining App!!!!!!!!111!11!!1!!1!!!!!!!!111

I'm going to start coding this tonight!!!11!!!1!!!!!11!!


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Wait what? Is it an app that monitors the mining on your mining rigs? Or is it an app that mines on your iPhone, because that would be really... [facepalm.png]

I think he meant a monitoring app. The later seems kinda crazy lol
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June 22, 2011, 03:09:22 AM
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Ok so I'm been reading this forum for sometime now. I understand exactly what this economy is missing to really have it jump off. That my fellow bitcoin lovers is PHONE SERVICE.

Why go to all that trouble, when any user could become a vendor for any of those prepaid services and put up a website that allowed users to buy minute cards & top up cards for bitcoin.  I use Virgin Mobile, and the local vendor that I usually buy topup cards from doesn't even use actual cards anymore, but generates a new top up code that is printed onto the receipt.  I'm sure that coding this into a website would be trivial for any code monkey worth his 'leet thinkgeek t-shirts.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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June 22, 2011, 04:04:17 AM
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ill be the the president that oversees everything. I also want a full team behind me getting this done. This site will operate just like an apple store. Geniuses & Btc experts, moderators and then regular members.

I hope everyone catches my drift.

I hope you guys don't think I'm in over my head with this. Im just a poor homeless kid leaving out of my car and free wifi spots. I think this is a great idea that can go really far. Your feedback is much appreciated.

In plain english:

"I know nothing and would like to make money based on some half-baked idea I have.  Also, I have no skills that can potentially add value to this project so instead I will be managing the things I don't understand."

I like your spirit.  I can't decide if I'm being trolled by someone really clever who's trying to expose corporate america or if you somehow are your own joke.
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June 22, 2011, 04:07:42 AM
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+1

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June 22, 2011, 04:09:08 AM
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AWESOME IDEA. DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE HATING ASS TROLLS. THEY DESPISE BITCOIN, AND IDEAS LIKE YOURS ONLY FORTIFY THE ECONOMY THAT MUCH MORE ! 
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This reminds me of people who post on forums that focus on homebrew game development, along the lines of "hey i have a great idea for this mmorpg we just need programmers and artists and servers and i wrote the story with my friend it took a whole week.  i will be managing this product just need people willing to help out it is a really good idea guys!  also i came up with a name for it."

Here is the real question: Why would anybody with the skills to do this help you?  You do not bring anything to the table, the project would be better off without you.  If you really wanted it to succeed, you would be happy to have someone who knows what they are doing run it, and just work at promoting them.  Not for any compensation, either.

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June 22, 2011, 04:39:56 AM
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I have a hard time figuring out when people are joking sometimes. Was the OP serious? Or just mocking the current milieu of this forum? If it's the latter, nicely done. Former? Enjoy the life of manual labor that awaits you.
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June 22, 2011, 04:56:13 AM
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It *is* a good idea. People would probably love to buy prepaid phone credit or phones or whatever with BTC. I'm not sure someone who doesn't capitalize sentences or use apostrophes is quite qualified to manage a crack team of coders putting such a service together.

I know what's up with your secure certificate, since you host at DreamHost, and I used to work there and wrote their secure certificate billing system. You have secure hosting set up, but the "real" certificate you ordered probably hasn't yet been written up by the actual Certificate Authority (which isn't DreamHost). If the code I worked on still works, it should show up sometime in the next couple days and be automatically installed on your site. If it doesn't, don't hesitate to contact support.

If you actually want to sell cell phones for BTC, I would recommend you set up an OpenCart install then install and configure the MyBitcoin SCI plugin for OpenCart. That will give you a fully functional online shopping-cart-driven store, where you can set prices in dollars and have people pay in Bitcoin (sent to a MyBitcoin account), converted at the current exchange rate.

Once you have a functional site, you'll probably be in a much better position to hire developers.
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This reminds me of people who post on forums that focus on homebrew game development, along the lines of "hey i have a great idea for this mmorpg we just need programmers and artists and servers and i wrote the story with my friend it took a whole week.  i will be managing this product just need people willing to help out it is a really good idea guys!  also i came up with a name for it."

Here is the real question: Why would anybody with the skills to do this help you?  You do not bring anything to the table, the project would be better off without you.  If you really wanted it to succeed, you would be happy to have someone who knows what they are doing run it, and just work at promoting them.  Not for any compensation, either.


How do you know that this guy doesn't have the money to pay the team. And if he doesn't have the money, what makes you think he can't get funding for his idea? Pessimism only hurts our community. If he wants to dream let him dream.. Obviously people aren't going to work for free.
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June 22, 2011, 05:14:55 AM
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How do you know that this guy doesn't have the money to pay the team.

Im just a poor homeless kid leaving out of my car
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How do you know that this guy doesn't have the money to pay the team.

Im just a poor homeless kid leaving out of my car
Maybe I should start reading the ops posts a little more clearly  Lips sealed. Missed that line, however he's got a good idea, he should pursue this idea as hard as he can. If he has no money, make a pro presentation on power point, get on business related forums where you can get investors, get out there and meet people to get this funding that you need to make this succeed.

IMO I think the domain name is terrible quality, but the idea itself works.
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June 22, 2011, 03:03:39 PM
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I was just thinking about how the strongest methods of escaping the government grasp is to setup phone service and wordpress blogs. I would like to join your team. I'm not a programmer or anything though, more of an idea man.

GOOOOOOOOOOO BITCOINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: Oops. Just fixed a typo. It should be GO (like GO TEAM!) and not GOOB
Edit2: Just checked the dictionary and goob is not a word
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This image sucks and I bet it's being used to troll. You know how I know? Because it never loaded because I already have it adblocked.

GOOOOOOOOOOO BITCOINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edit: Oops. Just fixed a typo. It should be GO (like GO TEAM!) and not GOOB
Edit2: Just checked the dictionary and goob is not a word
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This reminds me of people who post on forums that focus on homebrew game development, along the lines of "hey i have a great idea for this mmorpg we just need programmers and artists and servers and i wrote the story with my friend it took a whole week.  i will be managing this product just need people willing to help out it is a really good idea guys!  also i came up with a name for it."

Here is the real question: Why would anybody with the skills to do this help you?  You do not bring anything to the table, the project would be better off without you.  If you really wanted it to succeed, you would be happy to have someone who knows what they are doing run it, and just work at promoting them.  Not for any compensation, either.



Because I have family members that work at at&t and apple. I can get an unlimited amount of phones if these this works out. Your probably wondering why not sell them on ebay yah yah yah... but unlike you, Mr. Useless Troll, I have an idea and a dream Smiley


It *is* a good idea. People would probably love to buy prepaid phone credit or phones or whatever with BTC. I'm not sure someone who doesn't capitalize sentences or use apostrophes is quite qualified to manage a crack team of coders putting such a service together.

I know what's up with your secure certificate, since you host at DreamHost, and I used to work there and wrote their secure certificate billing system. You have secure hosting set up, but the "real" certificate you ordered probably hasn't yet been written up by the actual Certificate Authority (which isn't DreamHost). If the code I worked on still works, it should show up sometime in the next couple days and be automatically installed on your site. If it doesn't, don't hesitate to contact support.

If you actually want to sell cell phones for BTC, I would recommend you set up an OpenCart install then install and configure the MyBitcoin SCI plugin for OpenCart. That will give you a fully functional online shopping-cart-driven store, where you can set prices in dollars and have people pay in Bitcoin (sent to a MyBitcoin account), converted at the current exchange rate.

Once you have a functional site, you'll probably be in a much better position to hire developers.



Can you set this up? I do not have a computer other wise I would do this in wordpress. Ill give you 10-20% of all phones sales & 5% recurring billing
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This reminds me of people who post on forums that focus on homebrew game development, along the lines of "hey i have a great idea for this mmorpg we just need programmers and artists and servers and i wrote the story with my friend it took a whole week.  i will be managing this product just need people willing to help out it is a really good idea guys!  also i came up with a name for it."

Here is the real question: Why would anybody with the skills to do this help you?  You do not bring anything to the table, the project would be better off without you.  If you really wanted it to succeed, you would be happy to have someone who knows what they are doing run it, and just work at promoting them.  Not for any compensation, either.



Because I have family members that work at at&t and apple. I can get an unlimited amount of phones if these this works out. Your probably wondering why not sell them on ebay yah yah yah... but unlike you, Mr. Useless Troll, I have an idea and a dream Smiley

Wait, you are trying to set up a company to sell property that you know that your family has stolen from their employers, and you want us to help you commit this crime?

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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Because I have family members that work at at&t and apple. I can get an unlimited amount of phones if these this works out. Your probably wondering why not sell them on ebay yah yah yah... but unlike you, Mr. Useless Troll, I have an idea and a dream Smiley

Wait, you are trying to set up a company to sell property that you know that your family has stolen from their employers, and you want us to help you commit this crime?

Hm ... Actually it gives idea some sense.

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This reminds me of people who post on forums that focus on homebrew game development, along the lines of "hey i have a great idea for this mmorpg we just need programmers and artists and servers and i wrote the story with my friend it took a whole week.  i will be managing this product just need people willing to help out it is a really good idea guys!  also i came up with a name for it."

Here is the real question: Why would anybody with the skills to do this help you?  You do not bring anything to the table, the project would be better off without you.  If you really wanted it to succeed, you would be happy to have someone who knows what they are doing run it, and just work at promoting them.  Not for any compensation, either.



Because I have family members that work at at&t and apple. I can get an unlimited amount of phones if these this works out. Your probably wondering why not sell them on ebay yah yah yah... but unlike you, Mr. Useless Troll, I have an idea and a dream Smiley

Wait, you are trying to set up a company to sell property that you know that your family has stolen from their employers, and you want us to help you commit this crime?

omg... no! all the phones were legally bought. everything is legal... Ill have to find money to pay these monthly bills otherwise. Get it now?
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June 23, 2011, 05:12:06 AM
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bitcoins is the tradtional king of paying for stuff that has no marginal cost like porn, warez, donations, various services, elite cheat c0deZ, etc
u know like.. u dont care whether u get paid or not kind of goods cuz its all free anyway

Like i am charging 1 bitcoin for me to fart if u pull my finger... its more that kinda currency not a phone type currency
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Because I have family members that work at at&t and apple. I can get an unlimited amount of phones if these this works out. Your probably wondering why not sell them on ebay yah yah yah... but unlike you, Mr. Useless Troll, I have an idea and a dream Smiley

I am a troll because I gave you legitimate advice?

Look, your plan is full of holes.  Here are some actual problems you need to solve:

1) Who is going to provide phone service?  Are you contracting out another prepaid company, or is this just a hardware service?  Running a phone service provider is not trivial, and it takes an enormous amount of money.  Aside from that, you are subject to all manner of government regulation.  Why would people even WANT a Bitcoin phone service provider?  So that there is yet another central place that people can track their activity to?  What are you going to do when the government asks you to turn over all your call logs?  And if this is just a hardware site... Well, why exactly would people want to use it over a more untraceable, cheaper method?

2)  Apple sells iPhones off contract now, to the general public.  Your connections are not worth anything meaningful, much less the job of running this company.

3) You don't have a computer.

Like I said before, why are YOU the best person to run this?  That is not trolling, it is a question that any investor would ask you.  You do not even have a computer!  What you have are friends who work at phone stores, and that is really not much.
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