Antminer S11

[bitcoinexplorer]

Hello

I was wondering when is Antminer S11 releasing

as i guess its almost 2 years since S9 released?

correct me if i am wrong

thanks.

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[tubexc]

 Because of the chip tunneling issue, probably never 

[fanatic26]

You are wrong.

There is no S11 and probably wont be for a long time.

[QuintLeo]

As has been mentioned in MANY OTHER THREADS BEFORE NOW, there won't be an S11 model for quite a while - Bitmain can't design it 'till there's a new semiconductor node available to design it ON, and that's looking like 1.5-2 years away at the soonest - then they will have to fight with the BIG boys like NVidia, Apple, AMD, Samsung, and such to get any foundry time to MAKE any chips they design.

 I'm not betting on there being an S11 model 'till 2019 at the soonest.

[Amph]

As has been mentioned in MANY OTHER THREADS BEFORE NOW, there won't be an S11 model for quite a while - Bitmain can't design it 'till there's a new semiconductor node available to design it ON, and that's looking like 1.5-2 years away at the soonest - then they will have to fight with the BIG boys like NVidia, Apple, AMD, Samsung, and such to get any foundry time to MAKE any chips they design.

 I'm not betting on there being an S11 model 'till 2019 at the soonest.

that is a good thing for the diff, because we can now draw a linear increase since no efficient miners will take place up to 2020

but a bad thing for casual miners that can't have an efficient miner for mini farm mining

[QuintLeo]

As has been mentioned in MANY OTHER THREADS BEFORE NOW, there won't be an S11 model for quite a while - Bitmain can't design it 'till there's a new semiconductor node available to design it ON, and that's looking like 1.5-2 years away at the soonest - then they will have to fight with the BIG boys like NVidia, Apple, AMD, Samsung, and such to get any foundry time to MAKE any chips they design.

 I'm not betting on there being an S11 model 'till 2019 at the soonest.

that is a good thing for the diff, because we can now draw a linear increase since no efficient miners will take place up to 2020

but a bad thing for casual mienrs that can't have an efficient miner for mini farm mining

 Depends on when Sidehack finally gets a BF16 miner working and starts selling it.

[philipma1957]

Hello

I was wondering when is Antminer S11 releasing

as i guess its almost 2 years since S9 released?

correct me if i am wrong

thanks.

the s-9 is 13 months old  not 24 months.

[Tomintx]

Consider this from Bitmain's POV.  They are selling all they can produce.  They're sold out 2-3 months in advance.  What would be their motivation to roll out another version?

I don't know their exact node, but it's something 16nm.  There are several different 16nm processes.  They've caught up with what's commercially available from wafer fabs at this point.

Intel's 7th-generation CORE processors are their latest, and these are on their internal 14nm process.  Intel's not going to open their fab to Bitmain.  
AMD's latest RX 580 GPU chips are on their 14nm process.  AMD's not going to open their fab to Bitmain.  (I know, it's Global Foundries and Samsung)

Others have announced intentions to go beyond 14nm, but these are the technology leaders of the world.  It's going to be a while, and they're not likely to open their fabs to Bitmain for a while.

So what will Bitmain do?  They might consider doing a spin to a lower-power process at 16nm, but that's much easier said than done.  Lower-power processes are focused more on device leakage, for battery life while not in use.  The SHA256 algorithm flips probably 2/3 of the flops on every clock cycle, and it clocks every single one of them.  That's where your power is going.  Leakage power does not even enter into the discussion for SHA256 chips.  Maybe late 2018 for another node.  Maybe.

So what will Bitmain do?  Laugh all the way to the bank.