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May 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
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Godamnit. I was totally expecting Ekaros to pick kill again, too. Now I feel bad. Cry
Don't feel bad, I'm pretty sure his strategy is, "Heads, I trade, tails I kill."

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May 17, 2013, 11:53:54 PM
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There is a great story called "The Day of The Wolf", by Fritz Leiber, in which when humans meet, they will either mate or kill.

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May 18, 2013, 01:57:22 AM
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Godamnit. I was totally expecting Ekaros to pick kill again, too. Now I feel bad. Cry
Don't feel bad, I'm pretty sure his strategy is, "Heads, I trade, tails I kill."

Oh that one is good too Grin

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May 18, 2013, 02:31:56 AM
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Sorry about the delay.

Round 3
Rassah <--> wdmw
Elwar <--> FenixRD
FCTaiChi <--> Foxpup
Ekaros <--> Cameltoemcgee

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May 18, 2013, 05:15:37 AM
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Oh, nice forgot about this one Smiley

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May 18, 2013, 05:18:42 AM
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Godamnit. I was totally expecting Ekaros to pick kill again, too. Now I feel bad. Cry


Oh come on.  What's your excuse for the first round then? 

Not criticising you, I would have probably done the same thing for the fun of it too.
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May 18, 2013, 08:41:27 AM
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Godamnit. I was totally expecting Ekaros to pick kill again, too. Now I feel bad. Cry


Oh come on.  What's your excuse for the first round then? 

Not criticising you, I would have probably done the same thing for the fun of it too.

Was trying to prove Chaos Theory
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May 18, 2013, 03:26:10 PM
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Godamnit. I was totally expecting Ekaros to pick kill again, too. Now I feel bad. Cry


Oh come on.  What's your excuse for the first round then? 

Not criticising you, I would have probably done the same thing for the fun of it too.

Was trying to prove Chaos Theory

lol.

You know this reminds me of when I played the Jedi Knight games where you get to choose whether you are going to follow the light or dark side.

I have to say, the dark side was just a lot more fun.
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May 18, 2013, 03:33:57 PM
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Godamnit. I was totally expecting Ekaros to pick kill again, too. Now I feel bad. Cry


Oh come on.  What's your excuse for the first round then? 

Not criticising you, I would have probably done the same thing for the fun of it too.

Was trying to prove Chaos Theory

lol.

You know this reminds me of when I played the Jedi Knight games where you get to choose whether you are going to follow the light or dark side.

I have to say, the dark side was just a lot more fun.
I hear they have cookies.

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May 18, 2013, 03:41:22 PM
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Wasn't this basic idea tested in a university study? If i recall correctly they found that the majority of people chose to be trusting.

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May 18, 2013, 03:47:07 PM
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You know this reminds me of when I played the Jedi Knight games where you get to choose whether you are going to follow the light or dark side.

I have to say, the dark side was just a lot more fun.
I hear they have cookies.

 Huh That went right over my head.
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May 18, 2013, 03:50:54 PM
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Wasn't this basic idea tested in a university study? If i recall correctly they found that the majority of people chose to be trusting.
Yeah, the basic idea has been done dozens of times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_war_game

The goal here is actually not this prelim game. I have some decidedly not basic variations I want to try out, including, as I said earlier, trying to start a war (and then seeing what can be done to prevent it)


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May 18, 2013, 03:52:00 PM
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You know this reminds me of when I played the Jedi Knight games where you get to choose whether you are going to follow the light or dark side.

I have to say, the dark side was just a lot more fun.
I hear they have cookies.

 Huh That went right over my head.


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May 18, 2013, 04:10:13 PM
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Wasn't this basic idea tested in a university study? If i recall correctly they found that the majority of people chose to be trusting.
Yeah, the basic idea has been done dozens of times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_war_game

The goal here is actually not this prelim game. I have some decidedly not basic variations I want to try out, including, as I said earlier, trying to start a war (and then seeing what can be done to prevent it)



That sounds fun.  Do these type of games take into account people like me who will try to win within the parameters of the game? ie.  I would probably trade for awhile and then try and doublecross to jump ahead at opportune times.   I like to test boundaries.   Does it require a large sample size to even things out?
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May 18, 2013, 04:13:10 PM
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That sounds fun.  Do these type of games take into account people like me who will try to win within the parameters of the game? ie.  I would probably trade for awhile and then try and doublecross to jump ahead at opportune times.   I like to test boundaries.   Does it require a large sample size to even things out?

Well, the later games won't have a pre-set end number of turns. In "War," (and the later games) in fact, I'm going to set a victory condition. Grin


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May 18, 2013, 04:15:45 PM
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Round Three:
Players: 8
Maximum societal points: 48
Maximum individual points: 9

0 Rassah <--> wdmw 3
Trade
KILL

2 Elwar <--> FenixRD 2
Trade
I am trading with Elwar.

2 FCTaiChi <--> Foxpup 2
Trade
trade

3 Ekaros <--> Cameltoemcgee 0
Round 3... Trade
Kill

Societal total points: 43
Point totals:
wdmw: 7
Rassah: 6
FCTaiChi: 6
Foxpup: 6
Ekaros: 6
Elwar: 6
FenixRD: 4
Cameltoemcgee: 2

Round 4 Roster:

Rassah <--> Foxpup
Elwar <--> Cameltoemcgee
FCTaiChi <--> FenixRD
wdmw <--> Ekaros

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May 19, 2013, 10:07:13 AM
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I'm not sure why, but I find this really fascinating to watch Cheesy Will it turn into all out war, or will eventually a stable kind of peace be settled ... *eats popcorn*
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May 19, 2013, 02:02:55 PM
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I'm not sure why, but I find this really fascinating to watch Cheesy Will it turn into all out war, or will eventually a stable kind of peace be settled ... *eats popcorn*
Well, game theory states that it will eventually settle down.

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May 19, 2013, 03:51:20 PM
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Since there is very little incentive for peace, we may have some rogue players Cheesy

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May 19, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
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Since there is very little incentive for peace, we may have some rogue players Cheesy

Why do you think so? Grin

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