MagicalTux - let me translate

[jaybny]

Mark,

Either your a scam artist or its a total miscommunication. I leaning towards the latter.

If your interested in explaining your side to the Americans, I would be happy to interview you off record and avoid the miscommunications due to language and culture.

However, if FBI is involved... bad move. im out.

Just call me anytime, I believe you have my number from my emails.

J

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[jaybny]

bump. he never did call me again.

[haploid23]

And who are you? Why would he want to personally call you, when everyone and their mom also wants to speak with this guy.

[R2Pleasent]

He has bankruptcy protection.  He has no legal obligation to say anything right now.  His primary concern is not tiding people over with an explanation.  No matter what he says, if he doesn't have the Bitcoins, it really doesn't make a big difference. 

Right now he's scrambling to try and protect himself from massive criminal charges which are going to be coming at him from every single angle.  The dude is fucked.  He lost $500 Million of customer funds.  There's no way that he didn't break some serious laws losing/stealing/disappearing that much money.

Mark Karpeles is worrying about Mark Karpeles.  The last person the dude gives a shit about right now is some guy holding 1.4 BTC on Gox.

[jaybny]

And who are you? Why would he want to personally call you, when everyone and their mom also wants to speak with this guy.

look at the date

[freedomno1]

And who are you? Why would he want to personally call you, when everyone and their mom also wants to speak with this guy.

look at the date

Woooo oldie!!!!
Same Keeples?

[bananas]

jaybny is the messiah...what was that about anyway? fbi?

[jaybny]

jaybny is the messiah...what was that about anyway? fbi?

I'm starting think that June 19 2011 was the day MagicalTux turned into Madoff. There was a big hack that pushed the price from 17 to .01. Lots of drama on the forum. Mark was all over the place, some wanted to bring in the FBI. do a search for 995 days ago..

http://www.dailytech.com/Inside+the+MegaHack+of+Bitcoin+the+Full+Story/article21942.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrikj7fy4MU
 

[dreamspark]

So the important question, did you still have money on gox? 

[TheFootMan]

He has bankruptcy protection.  He has no legal obligation to say anything right now.

I'm sorry to say this, but in reality he has no protection at all. Legal protection is a joke. If someone with the right connections or enough power wants to get to him, be it a government organization or a criminal organization they will. No protection on earth can protect him, and he should be very very afraid. But I don't think he's much afraid, as he seems completely disconnected from everything, he just does not function like a normal individual.

I don't have information one way or another that pertains to Mark, but you don't need to do much googling before you find countless cases about people getting into 'accidents' whose crime is to go against the wrong people or sticking their nose into something they didn't want to stick it into.

So any legal protection only goes as far as its respected by people overall. Legality is set aside every day. Mark not speaking about the situation only makes everything worse from the standpoint of the community.

I think most people put far too much trust into 'lawyers', 'police', 'judges' and the 'legal system'. These people are corrupted and compromized every day of the week around the globe, and if you can pay enough - you will have the best lawyers.

If Mark wanted to, he could sit down with someone independent, and everything could be mapped together, and presented to the community. But he never will - there's no interest in him for cleaning up his act, because he's a selfish bastard that do not care two cents about anyone else.

You can bet your life on the fact that he's stashed away enough btc for a lifetime to come though. Some people say that he can't run. He could if he wanted to. Some people point to the fact that he has a wife and a daughter. They don't realize that some men would drop their family in a heartbeat if that meant they could not have 500 million dollars in hand.

[ifritsultan]

jaybny is the messiah...what was that about anyway? fbi?

I'm starting think that June 19 2011 was the day MagicalTux turned into Madoff. There was a big hack that pushed the price from 17 to .01. Lots of drama on the forum. Mark was all over the place, some wanted to bring in the FBI. do a search for 995 days ago..

http://www.dailytech.com/Inside+the+MegaHack+of+Bitcoin+the+Full+Story/article21942.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrikj7fy4MU
 

So what do you mean... what happened in 2011? Were these 400k bitcoins already gone?
There was no such big transaction on the blockchain, af far as i remember.

[Cluster2k]

I'm sorry to say this, but in reality he has no protection at all. Legal protection is a joke. If someone with the right connections or enough power wants to get to him, be it a government organization or a criminal organization they will. No protection on earth can protect him, and he should be very very afraid. But I don't think he's much afraid, as he seems completely disconnected from everything, he just does not function like a normal individual.

I have noticed there are quite a few people making veiled threats against the CEO in terms of 'some people might not be so reasonable' and 'some people believe the justice system won't save you', so just 'talk to us'.  They apologize of course and take the CEO's side in that they're just trying to help, allegedly. 

[TheFootMan]

I'm sorry to say this, but in reality he has no protection at all. Legal protection is a joke. If someone with the right connections or enough power wants to get to him, be it a government organization or a criminal organization they will. No protection on earth can protect him, and he should be very very afraid. But I don't think he's much afraid, as he seems completely disconnected from everything, he just does not function like a normal individual.

I have noticed there are quite a few people making veiled threats against the CEO in terms of 'some people might not be so reasonable' and 'some people believe the justice system won't save you', so just 'talk to us'.  They apologize of course and take the CEO's side in that they're just trying to help, allegedly. 

Not sure what you're really implying here. And I have no interest in causing harm to Mark, but I'm just pointing at reality. Imagine some russian mobster has 30 million dollars locked up, do you think that this person would sit quiet and watch his money disappear?

You know there's a reason that certain people were able to exit with their money during the Cyprus crisis, right? I'm pointing to the fact that the english branch let certain individuals withdraw their balances in advance before the collapse.

The reality is that no matter what you've done, if you've fucked with the wrong people, you're in deep trouble.  And it's been proven without doubt that the current legal system in the modern world is not fair. There are countless cases were this can easily be pointed out.

I would be scared shitless if I scammed people out of million of dollars. I would not even be able to sleep at night. And I would never have peace no matter where I went in hiding. There would always be the thought in the back of my mind: What if anyone found me?

And that's why I never put myself in that position. I could never enrich myself by outright scamming other people.

[jaybny]

So the important question, did you still have money on gox? 

nope. transfered to bitstamp in december.

Dear jaybny,
There has been a withdrawal from your Mt.Gox account:
Transaction reference: d2e0f422-6d94-448c-8d55-e96270bb651e
Date: 2013-12-23 14:30:33 GMT

[BCB]

So the important question, did you still have money on gox? 

nope. transfered to bitstamp in december.

Dear jaybny,
There has been a withdrawal from your Mt.Gox account:
Transaction reference: d2e0f422-6d94-448c-8d55-e96270bb651e
Date: 2013-12-23 14:30:33 GMT

15 BTC.  Nice Move.

[rikkejohn]

bump. he never did call me again.

The first link in the other post you made is kind of funny in a Captain Hindsight way. Check the first comment:

"OK the genius who hacked Mt.Gox hoped to accomplish what by stealing the bitcoins? Did they have a buyer lined up to pay them $15-$30 for a virtual currency that has yet to establish an intrinsic value for itself?

Or was their plan to take the bitcoins and sit on them until another exchange pops up and then dump them all - again, lowering the value of the BTC on the particular exchange they dump them on.

The exchange market is what gave the BTC value, and the value was based on what people were willing to buy and sell the coins for. Either way it plays out for them, they're not likely to make as much as they expected to from their little heist."

So 500,000 + 750,000 + 250,000 (adding this off the top of my head for what has been taken from dead accounts and unverified accounts)

Grand total of 1,500,000 missing from Karpeles' exchange out of a total of 12,500,000 mined coins (shoot me on the 250k I added)

Today's price equals $975,000,000 worth scammed from that exchange (not including the cash stolen)

[jaybny]

So the important question, did you still have money on gox? 

nope. transfered to bitstamp in december.

Dear jaybny,
There has been a withdrawal from your Mt.Gox account:
Transaction reference: d2e0f422-6d94-448c-8d55-e96270bb651e
Date: 2013-12-23 14:30:33 GMT

15 BTC.  Nice Move.

where did you find the transaction?

[alfabitcoin]

So the important question, did you still have money on gox? 

nope. transfered to bitstamp in december.

Dear jaybny,
There has been a withdrawal from your Mt.Gox account:
Transaction reference: d2e0f422-6d94-448c-8d55-e96270bb651e
Date: 2013-12-23 14:30:33 GMT

15 BTC.  Nice Move.

where did you find the transaction?

I guess from leaked btc transfer file.

[phelix]

So the important question, did you still have money on gox? 

nope. transfered to bitstamp in december.

Dear jaybny,
There has been a withdrawal from your Mt.Gox account:
Transaction reference: d2e0f422-6d94-448c-8d55-e96270bb651e
Date: 2013-12-23 14:30:33 GMT

15 BTC.  Nice Move.

where did you find the transaction?

I guess from leaked btc transfer file.

fucking zlol! bcb that was hilarious!

[BCB]

So the important question, did you still have money on gox?  

nope. transfered to bitstamp in december.

Dear jaybny,
There has been a withdrawal from your Mt.Gox account:
Transaction reference: d2e0f422-6d94-448c-8d55-e96270bb651e
Date: 2013-12-23 14:30:33 GMT

15 BTC.  Nice Move.

where did you find the transaction?

I guess from leaked btc transfer file.

fucking zlol! bcb that was hilarious!

Dude, You published your transaction number.  Your transaction number correlates with your user ID in the gox data dump.  With your user Id we can trace all of your transactions.  I'm currently correlating the transactions from the dump with transactions in the blockchain. Soon I'll even have your bitcoin addresses. Hope you didn't spend any btc on titsforbitcoin.com or porn.com.  (Don't worry, I won't tell!).