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May 14, 2013, 08:13:07 PM |
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You're also trying to twist Occam's Razor into a false dichotomy.
Occam's razor works equally well on more than two options. It's possible that he was a Chinese person, using a Japanese pseudonym, and tailoring his posting habits and language to appear western. Or he could have been a space alien posting from the moon, using a hyper-tech translation program and a Japanese pseudonym. Occam slices all of those away as well. It's also possible that you are Satoshi, and throwing FUD to get people off your trail.  Actually, I'm Satoshi, and I should know pretty well whether or not I'm lying. Also, I'm not Japanese.  |
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May 14, 2013, 08:19:16 PM |
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Occam's razor works equally well on more than two options. It's possible that he was a Chinese person, using a Japanese pseudonym, and tailoring his posting habits and language to appear western. Or he could have been a space alien posting from the moon, using a hyper-tech translation program and a Japanese pseudonym. Occam slices all of those away as well.
It is most likely Satoshi is precisely as he says he is. It's also possible that you are Satoshi, and throwing FUD to get people off your trail. Lol, okay. *Posted from my luxury Bitcoin submarine. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:23:09 PM |
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Occam's razor works equally well on more than two options. It's possible that he was a Chinese person, using a Japanese pseudonym, and tailoring his posting habits and language to appear western. Or he could have been a space alien posting from the moon, using a hyper-tech translation program and a Japanese pseudonym. Occam slices all of those away as well.
It is most likely Satoshi is precisely as he says he is. Except that there's no such person as Satoshi Nakamoto. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:26:41 PM |
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Except that there's no such person as Satoshi Nakamoto.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:27:43 PM |
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Out of pure curiosity; what's your take on God, Azure?
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May 14, 2013, 08:29:55 PM |
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Out of pure curiosity; what's your take on God, Azure?
I personally don't believe in any such entity, but I wouldn't be able to prove either a positive or negative hypothesis on the subject. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:31:31 PM |
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Except that there's no such person as Satoshi Nakamoto.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. And a Japanese pseudonym is far from conclusive evidence that a person is Japanese. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:33:17 PM |
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And a Japanese pseudonym is far from conclusive evidence that a person is Japanese.
Never said it was. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:38:16 PM |
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Because every 8th person in the world speaks English.
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May 14, 2013, 08:40:04 PM |
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And a Japanese pseudonym is far from conclusive evidence that a person is Japanese.
Never said it was. But you're using it as such. He posted at times inconsistent with living in Japan, he spoke perfect English, and used a Times of London quote in the genesis Block. Yet, you say that the simplest explanation, based entirely on his use of a Japanese pseudonym, is that he was Japanese. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:45:00 PM |
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At some point in time, Azure, you will need to dispute my claim: I am Satoshi Nakamoto.
At some point, you'll have to tell me I'm wrong, or you must assume everything I say is factual about myself. You have to assume I'm lying, even if you can't prove it. And if you call me a liar, you have to acknowledge that the man behind the name Satoshi Nakamoto could've been lying, and that there is no absolute truth that he is required to be honest about his own identity.
So which is it? Do you believe I am Satoshi Nakamoto, as I, Satoshi Nakamoto, say I am, and what is your reasoning to explain why I am or am not?
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May 14, 2013, 08:46:33 PM |
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But you're using it as such.
He posted at times inconsistent with living in Japan, he spoke perfect English, and used a Times of London quote in the genesis Block. Yet, you say that the simplest explanation, based entirely on his use of a Japanese pseudonym, is that he was Japanese.
Yes. At some point in time, Azure, you will need to dispute my claim: I am Satoshi Nakamoto.
At some point, you'll have to tell me I'm wrong, or you must assume everything I say is factual about myself. You have to assume I'm lying, even if you can't prove it. And if you call me a liar, you have to acknowledge that the man behind the name Satoshi Nakamoto could've been lying, and that there is no absolute truth that he is required to be honest about his own identity.
So which is it? Do you believe I am Satoshi Nakamoto, as I, Satoshi Nakamoto, say I am, and what is your reasoning to explain why I am or am not?
I see no reason to assume you're not Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi and President Obama being the same person would certainly be interesting. |
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May 14, 2013, 08:52:09 PM |
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But you're using it as such.
He posted at times inconsistent with living in Japan, he spoke perfect English, and used a Times of London quote in the genesis Block. Yet, you say that the simplest explanation, based entirely on his use of a Japanese pseudonym, is that he was Japanese.
Yes. Does it follow, then, that I am a deity from the Forgotten Realms? Obviously, Myrkul is dead, so I can't be him. Perhaps I'm Cyric, or Kelemvor, just pretending to be Myrkul? |
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May 14, 2013, 08:53:48 PM |
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Does it follow, then, that I am a deity from the Forgotten Realms? Obviously, Myrkul is dead, so I can't be him. Perhaps I'm Cyric, or Kelemvor, just pretending to be Myrkul?
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May 14, 2013, 08:56:17 PM |
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I see no reason to assume you're not Satoshi Nakamoto.
Good. Now that we've cleared that up: I am not Japanese. Rather, I come from the planet Kru-Ton 8. The first man I met was named Satoshi, and so I stole his identity; it was the easiest way to get along with you Earthlings, as my real form is that of a busty space princess. Thus, I traveled to Canada, and developed Bitcoin there. Why Canada? Because you don't question the great Satoshi Nakamoto, that's why. Anyway, I didn't create a Japanese forum because I don't understand Japanese. I also don't understand English, but you can call BS anytime and catch my point  |
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May 14, 2013, 08:59:11 PM |
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I see no reason to assume you're not Satoshi Nakamoto.
Good. Now that we've cleared that up: I am not Japanese. Rather, I come from the planet Kru-Ton 8. The first man I met was named Satoshi, and so I stole his identity; it was the easiest way to get along with you Earthlings, as my real form is that of a busty space princess. Thus, I traveled to Canada, and developed Bitcoin there. Why Canada? Because you don't question the great Satoshi Nakamoto, that's why. Anyway, I didn't create a Japanese forum because I don't understand Japanese. I also don't understand English, but you can call BS anytime and catch my point Fascinating, tell me more about your travels, President Satoshi Obama. |
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May 14, 2013, 09:01:28 PM |
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Fascinating, tell me more about your travels, President Satoshi Obama.
Aw, I could write a space-book about it, but I'm afraid I'd have to charge for further information about my Bitcoin secrets. Canadian dollars only, please; I don't know much about this Bitcoin stuff, but I hear it's a ponzi bubble. |
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May 14, 2013, 09:02:15 PM |
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Fascinating, tell me more about your travels, President Satoshi Obama.
That's all the proof I need. You are Satoshi. |
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May 14, 2013, 10:13:15 PM |
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Aw, I could write a space-book about it, but I'm afraid I'd have to charge for further information about my Bitcoin secrets. Canadian dollars only, please; I don't know much about this Bitcoin stuff, but I hear it's a ponzi bubble.
Pyramid ponzi techno bubble. That's all the proof I need. You are Satoshi. When I first came to this forum, someone PM'd me wondering if I was an engineer working on Windows Azure. That PM made a lot more sense than your claim. |
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May 14, 2013, 10:23:11 PM |
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That's all the proof I need. You are Satoshi. When I first came to this forum, someone PM'd me wondering if I was an engineer working on Windows Azure. That PM made a lot more sense than your claim. And yet, both make more sense than your claim that Satoshi is Japanese, solely because he chose a Japanese pseudonym. |
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