Help filling out ANAC's terrible submission form.

[rjk]

Guys, I want to submit a couple of 2011 Casascius coins to ANACS for grading, but filling out their form is proving to be a challenge. If I understand this correctly, they will use whatever I write in the "Variety" field without modification as the title on the coin case? If so, what is the correct thing to write there? Should I use the "variety attribution verification and errors" service to make sure that is done correctly, or is it not necessary?

It also says max value $100 - does that mean I am not allowed to put in a value that exceeds $100 in the "Owners Value" field? How is return shipping insured? I don't have a FedEx/UPS account.

These rounds are loaded, but have visible discoloration from the brass tarnishing. Will they still be grade-able or should I not even send them in because of that?
Any suggestions are welcome. This is the first time I've tried doing such a thing as grading coins - total n00b here. Are there any other services that will grade bitcoins? Preferably any with a nice online webform and submission process?

[rjk]

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[dazedfool]

ANACS will use what you put in for Variety to match their catalog of coin titles. Notice how most slabbed coins have a consistent
"2011 TOKEN CASASCIUS 1 BITCOIN BRASS (firstbits)" or some such title

No need to pay variety attribution verification fee.

Max value is 100usd per coin on crypto. They will insure for a max of 100usd back to you. They generally ship Fedex.

Natural tarnish or toning is not necessarily a negative. Artificial tarnish (fingerprints, oils, waterspots, etc) is negative. Cleaning or polishing is also bad.

The big two (PCGS and NGC) do not do crypto coins/tokens. There is a UK outfit (CGS?) that does grade these coins I believe.

How's the holo side of your coin look?

[rjk]

ANACS will use what you put in for Variety to match their catalog of coin titles. Notice how most slabbed coins have a consistent
"2011 TOKEN CASASCIUS 1 BITCOIN BRASS (firstbits)" or some such title

No need to pay variety attribution verification fee.

Max value is 100usd per coin on crypto. They will insure for a max of 100usd back to you. They generally ship Fedex.

Natural tarnish or toning is not necessarily a negative. Artificial tarnish (fingerprints, oils, waterspots, etc) is negative. Cleaning or polishing is also bad.

The big two (PCGS and NGC) do not do crypto coins/tokens. There is a UK outfit (CGS?) that does grade these coins I believe.

How's the holo side of your coin look?

Thanks for the info. The holo side super nice, the plastic part is totally unblemished although the remaining brass area is similar to the front, i.e. slightly spotty or dull. When I got these things, I paid like BTC3.47 for both with shipping from Mike, in June of 2012. At that time, the MtGox BTC-USD daily closing price was around $6.50 so I kind of tossed them around and left them in a drawer for a while with no special attention.

[rjk]

Cool, I found the ANACS' population report page for these: http://www.anacs.com/Populations/PopReport.aspx?params=0cOpZS2qVO7ri%2f1FI7sHBw40izibhWKmgob%2bVoVj67wvCBXseHvviQ%3d%3d
Looks like they have graded 365 of this specific year!
It would appear that the variety I need to write in is "CASASCIUS 1 BITCOIN" to match their catalog.

[European Central Bank]

Max value is 100usd per coin on crypto. They will insure for a max of 100usd back to you. They generally ship Fedex.

there's no way of increasing that? if i had something like a 10 or 25 btc coin i couldn't bring myself to risk it. i'd have to fly there and wait in a motel until they were finished.

[Lesbian Cow]

Max value is 100usd per coin on crypto. They will insure for a max of 100usd back to you. They generally ship Fedex.

there's no way of increasing that? if i had something like a 10 or 25 btc coin i couldn't bring myself to risk it. i'd have to fly there and wait in a motel until they were finished.

ANACS is often at regional coin shows and you may submit in person and have them graded on the spot and returned to you slabbed.

Otherwise, no, ANACS will only insure the return shipment to you at $100 per coin.

[rjk]

I sent it off and will hope for the best. Since their population report shows that they have graded 365 of these coins, I'll consider that proof enough that there should be no issue, I just have to trust that the post office doesn't fuck up.

EDIT: When they first started grading them, they were worth about $10 USD and they probably never figured out that the price went up since then. Also when I emailed them, they said it was only to cover the value of the metal, but even then $100 is kind of high for a brass token.

[Blazed]

I sent it off and will hope for the best. Since their population report shows that they have graded 365 of these coins, I'll consider that proof enough that there should be no issue, I just have to trust that the post office doesn't fuck up.

EDIT: When they first started grading them, they were worth about $10 USD and they probably never figured out that the price went up since then. Also when I emailed them, they said it was only to cover the value of the metal, but even then $100 is kind of high for a brass token.

Actually, the $100 limit is newer since the value of crypto is so high now (added when they changed the form to allow crypto coins).. ANACS is protecting themselves in the event they lose one. Shame I just noticed this thread or I would have filled out an example form for you...I have sent coins a few times to ANACS. 

[HabBear]

Max value is 100usd per coin on crypto. They will insure for a max of 100usd back to you. They generally ship Fedex.

there's no way of increasing that? if i had something like a 10 or 25 btc coin i couldn't bring myself to risk it. i'd have to fly there and wait in a motel until they were finished.

One option is limiting the distance and complexity of shipping from ANACS. If you have a friend or family member in the US (particularly close to Colorado where ANACS is located) you could have ANACS ship to that person and then have them send you the package fully insured from their location onward.

[Zepher]

ANACS will use what you put in for Variety to match their catalog of coin titles. Notice how most slabbed coins have a consistent
"2011 TOKEN CASASCIUS 1 BITCOIN BRASS (firstbits)" or some such title

No need to pay variety attribution verification fee.

Max value is 100usd per coin on crypto. They will insure for a max of 100usd back to you. They generally ship Fedex.

Natural tarnish or toning is not necessarily a negative. Artificial tarnish (fingerprints, oils, waterspots, etc) is negative. Cleaning or polishing is also bad.

The big two (PCGS and NGC) do not do crypto coins/tokens. There is a UK outfit (CGS?) that does grade these coins I believe.

How's the holo side of your coin look?

CGS in the UK sadly closed their doors a good while ago now, around a year if memory serves. The only option left is ANACS, for anyone in the world at this moment in time.

[Mitchell]

CGS in the UK sadly closed their doors a good while ago now, around a year if memory serves. The only option left is ANACS, for anyone in the world at this moment in time.

Really? That sucks, they are terrible at grading cryptocurrency coins