BIP141 aka SegWit signalling at 76%

[BrewMaster]

is everyone so excited about the BIP91 activation with 93.1% and the price rising ridiculously fast that they forgot BIP141 (bit 1 version, or you may recall it as original SegWit thingy) is increasing in support?

where are the watchers

lets see, here is the list:

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Antpool
Batpool
BitClub
Bitcoin.com
BitFury
Bixin
BTC.com
BTC.TOP
BTCC
BW pool
F2Pool
GBMiners
Kano CKPool
Slushpool
ViaBTC

hope i didn't miss anything. source: https://coin.dance/blocks
(i believe this is almost 91% of the total hash power)

current percentage: 76.4% so far.

also it would be great if someone could give us the time frame of this signaling. is it the same as BIP91 since it is the continuation of that or is it the 1 difficulty period?

[bryant.coleman]

What is the difference between BIP 91 and BIP 141? And my question is, does the BIP 141 matters anymore, given that the BIP 91 have been locked in? BIP 141 is the original SegWit, isn't it? And as far as I know, the BIP 91 is a diluted version of the BIP 141, better known as the SegWit2x. All this is very confusing, even for an experienced user like me. 

[Hakkane]

Nothing unusual here, BIP141 is the second part of the Segwit2x plan. After locking BIP91, we are in a grace period of 330 blocks where every miner should adopt BIP141 as well, or their mined blocks could be rejected

Consider BIP91 as a mere signal of commitment and BIP141 as the proper activation of Segwit. BIP91 is harmless by itself, is just a voting among miners to know their intentions. If only a few mining pools activate BIP141 directly, by August 1st, once UASF triggers, there would be a chain split. BIP91 is simply a "ok, do we all (80%+) agree on activating BIP141 now and a 2Mb block increase in 3 months?"

[Joohansson]

Nothing unusual here, BIP141 is the second part of the Segwit2x plan. After locking BIP91, we are in a grace period of 330 blocks where every miner should adopt BIP141 as well, or their mined blocks could be rejected

Consider BIP91 as a mere signal of commitment and BIP141 as the proper activation of Segwit. BIP91 is harmless by itself, is just a voting among miners to know their intentions. If only a few mining pools activate BIP141 directly, by August 1st, once UASF triggers, there would be a chain split. BIP91 is simply a "ok, do we all (80%+) agree on activating BIP141 now and a 2Mb block increase in 3 months?"

That is confusing since bip91 require 80% and bip141 require 95% to activate. As I undetstood bip91 was a way to activate segwit at 80%, not 95%. What you're saying is they still need 95% consensus on bip141 in order to get Segwit the non-uasf way? Is that the bip91 effect of blocking non-segwit blocks that starts soon, to simply force the percentage over 95 threshold and thus activate bip141?

[freedomno1]

Well signalling intent then executing it are different matters, but it doesn't look like there are going to be any serious issues going forward.
We finally have something close to consensus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L9a17em6ng

[Meuh6879]

(i believe this is almost 91% of the total hash power)

[Emoclaw]

is everyone so excited about the BIP91 activation with 93.1% and the price rising ridiculously fast that they forgot BIP141 (bit 1 version, or you may recall it as original SegWit thingy) is increasing in support?

BIP141 is increasing in support BECAUSE of BIP91.
After BIP91 activates all non-SegWit (BIP141) blocks will be rejected. Mining pools have until then to start signaling BIP141.
As of right now, BIP141 support seemingly is at 100%, according to https://coin.dance/blocks.