reflexmk
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July 24, 2017, 02:38:54 PM |
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@opening post
Obviously there's a interest at the $2k range, I don't think you will have problems filling even a 200 pieces minimum. So, it's up to Baikal to sell them at this price and take whats offered or they could mine until the next gen monsters come out. Nobody is paying $4k for this at this time.
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NoxX
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July 24, 2017, 03:44:51 PM |
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@opening post
Obviously there's a interest at the $2k range, I don't think you will have problems filling even a 200 pieces minimum. So, it's up to Baikal to sell them at this price and take whats offered or they could mine until the next gen monsters come out. Nobody is paying $4k for this at this time.
Agreed. I would be interested in 1-2 at $2k. Note that the picture of profitability on the first page of this thread shows about 80% X11 mining. Once all the new X11 ASICs hit the market, difficulty for X11 will obviously skyrocket, so Baikal miners will be restricted to the other algos, which seem (at least at the moment) less profitable than X11
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cashen
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July 24, 2017, 04:11:01 PM |
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I think the point is everyone still says they will only get 1 or 2 @ $2K. If it was a steal people would be ordering 10....
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scavern
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July 24, 2017, 05:04:40 PM |
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Anyone buying this unit knows that it will not be great for X11 when the other faster ASICS come out.
However it's the fact that it can do those other algos...
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newtybar
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July 24, 2017, 05:19:38 PM |
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In for 2 @ 2k if they can be shipped before August 5th.
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bitcoinexplorer
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July 24, 2017, 06:03:36 PM |
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Its good to know that finally Baikal reduced the price from unrealistic $7000 to $4000 but we miners can convince Baikal that we will buy only if you reduce price to $1500 to $2000 or maximum $2500 because this will mean ROI period of 2 months theoretically and practically it could be 2 to 4 months depending on other manufacturers shipping out their products.
If Baikal agree we can use any trusted member of forum to initiate group buy or everyone can purchase from Baikal directly
Its time that ASIC companies start realizing that miners will only accept pricing which means 1(ideally) to 2 months(maximum) ROI period (and yes that ROI period is based on its capability of algorithms other than X11 and if you plan to do X11 only i don't recommend buying it even for this price)
No matter you are big farm owner or small home miner. Lets get united, because Miners united can make a difference.
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kritment
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July 24, 2017, 09:37:57 PM |
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Its good to know that finally Baikal reduced the price from unrealistic $7000 to $4000 but we miners can convince Baikal that we will buy only if you reduce price to $1500 to $2000 or maximum $2500 because this will mean ROI period of 2 months theoretically and practically it could be 2 to 4 months depending on other manufacturers shipping out their products.
If Baikal agree we can use any trusted member of forum to initiate group buy or everyone can purchase from Baikal directly
Its time that ASIC companies start realizing that miners will only accept pricing which means 1(ideally) to 2 months(maximum) ROI period (and yes that ROI period is based on its capability of algorithms other than X11 and if you plan to do X11 only i don't recommend buying it even for this price)
No matter you are big farm owner or small home miner. Lets get united, because Miners united can make a difference.
Minersunited i like what you are saying their we need to work together. You know from a long term perspective if 2K doesn't make sense. If we they come down to 2K verified, i might buy a couple
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andreasosfp
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July 24, 2017, 10:08:00 PM |
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I am in for 1 unit at 2000. Shipping at greece.
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Khurram Bin Kamal
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July 24, 2017, 10:53:12 PM |
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I will buy 4 units, not above 2k $, shipping must be in first week of August only to Pakistan , will pay directly to baikal
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bitcoinexplorer
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July 24, 2017, 11:08:27 PM |
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Its good to know that finally Baikal reduced the price from unrealistic $7000 to $4000 but we miners can convince Baikal that we will buy only if you reduce price to $1500 to $2000 or maximum $2500 because this will mean ROI period of 2 months theoretically and practically it could be 2 to 4 months depending on other manufacturers shipping out their products.
If Baikal agree we can use any trusted member of forum to initiate group buy or everyone can purchase from Baikal directly
Its time that ASIC companies start realizing that miners will only accept pricing which means 1(ideally) to 2 months(maximum) ROI period (and yes that ROI period is based on its capability of algorithms other than X11 and if you plan to do X11 only i don't recommend buying it even for this price)
No matter you are big farm owner or small home miner. Lets get united, because Miners united can make a difference.
Minersunited i like what you are saying their we need to work together. You know from a long term perspective if 2K doesn't make sense. If we they come down to 2K verified, i might buy a couple Lets hope Baikal realizes it before their giant plus goes worthless
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hellscreamer
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July 25, 2017, 12:28:04 AM |
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Interested in 5 if pricing in the 2-3k range
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bitcoinexplorer
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July 25, 2017, 12:33:31 AM |
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Interested in 5 if pricing in the 2-3k range
Stay to the limit of 2k range and don't go over 2.5k
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maleemk
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July 25, 2017, 02:35:27 AM |
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In my opinion It's not realistic to get these miners any less then the price stated in this group buy. I have now finally committed myself to buy 7 of these miners from this gruop buy and waiting for this group buy to close and after that I will pay to bittawan. He is a trusted member and have arranges several gruop buys. Again It's futile to expect to get these miners any way near to 2k or even 3k range.
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bitcoinexplorer
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July 25, 2017, 03:35:02 AM |
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One more thing that all the online calculators profitability is going to be significantly reduced by atleast 50% thus doubling the ROI period from 4 to 8 months atleast (12 months to be on safer side) at the price of $4000 as advertised by Baikal
Baikal have below options now:-
1. Sell for $4000 get low # of sales and use the unsold units for mining themselves
2. Sell for $2000 to $2500 and get all units sold out and start working on a new model with hope that they get huge capacity and reasonable price.
On more thing Bitmain is expected to open pre-orders for D3 once again anytime near first or second week of August. So who buys 2Ghs when 15 GHs is cheaper then it?
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maleemk
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July 25, 2017, 04:41:50 AM |
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If you can mine DGB with D3 than go ahead. BAIKAL also mine X13,X14,X15, Qubit and Quark. So even though it's ROI is long but you can mine with it for a long time. With different Algos. These 2GHz will go for long. Whereas these D3 and Ibelink miners have a profitable mining life of max 6 months.
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maleemk
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July 25, 2017, 04:45:06 AM |
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At least for a small time home miner like me. ROI is 3 months max. By the way Electricity is included in my Rent with 2kwh limit. So these miners are good for me. May be for Data Center Miners its different story.
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maleemk
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July 25, 2017, 04:47:11 AM |
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Home miners can mine with this miner for at least 2 years with lots of fishes in 5 other algos other then X11.
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felipehf81
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July 25, 2017, 06:52:46 AM |
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Interested in 1 if pricing in the 2000
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NoxX
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July 25, 2017, 08:08:08 AM |
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Home miners can mine with this miner for at least 2 years with lots of fishes in 5 other algos other then X11.
Except all the existing Baikals will move to the 5 other algos once the new X11 miners hit the market, so profitability for the other 5 algos will also tank...
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maleemk
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July 25, 2017, 08:34:12 AM |
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Well the values of coins of other coins may increase because of these baikal miners switching to other algos.
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