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July 26, 2017, 02:45:32 AM
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The D3s just went back on sale and sold out within an hour... I know Bitmain generally sells out quickly, but this has gotta be record, no?



 They don't seem to be sold out, more that their website seems to be broken at the moment - or they're ALMOST ready with the new batch but haven't actually gotten all the "back end" updated for it yet.



Might i recommend restarting your browser. Bitmain recently updated their site, u may get a 503 error unless you restart your browser.

They did sell a batch last night, Sept18-25 batch. Can't know how many they sold, but it sold out in an hour.
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July 26, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
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Great post, baskanx!

Thanks for taking the time to share those pics. I personally don't know enough about microchips to know what I'm looking at, but i'm sure somebody else can...

That's why i love these forums.

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July 26, 2017, 03:38:49 AM
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Innosilicon miners cost too much

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July 26, 2017, 05:56:22 AM
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Innosilicon miners cost too much

If it weren't for the D3s, they'd be the best buys in town... but the D3s DO exist... not to mention the fact that Innosilicon has a bad rep for over promising /under delivering hash rate / delivery date.
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July 26, 2017, 09:05:44 AM
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Great post, baskanx!

Thanks for taking the time to share those pics. I personally don't know enough about microchips to know what I'm looking at, but i'm sure somebody else can...

That's why i love these forums.



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July 26, 2017, 09:35:11 AM
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The D3s just went back on sale and sold out within an hour... I know Bitmain generally sells out quickly, but this has gotta be record, no?

 They don't seem to be sold out, more that their website seems to be broken at the moment - or they're ALMOST ready with the new batch but haven't actually gotten all the "back end" updated for it yet.


Might i recommend restarting your browser. Bitmain recently updated their site, u may get a 503 error unless you restart your browser.

They did sell a batch last night, Sept18-25 batch. Can't know how many they sold, but it sold out in an hour.


 Wasn't a browser issue - was that they had sold out but their website hadn't been updated to reflect it yet.
 They stated in an email response to me that they had sold out in "30 minutes".

 I DO believe that is a record for them - but I have to wonder how big the batch was, or if possibly some "whale" miner/farm bought a large piece of the batch in one big transaction.


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July 26, 2017, 09:40:54 AM
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The alleged Pinidea DRX 1150 seems to be a scam, as it's not listed on the actual Pinidea site AND the graphics are a direct ripoff of the Antminer L3.

 I seriously doubt that ANY X11 ASIC-based miner uses a FPGA as part of the actual mining part, the efficiencies are WAY too high


 Using a FPGA to verify the basic design of a circuit before you commit to making an ASIC version is common, but it doesn't make the resulting ASIC chip a FPGA.



 Oh, and for reference, FPGA stands for "Field Reprogrammable Gate Array" - it's basically an IC that's designed so you can route the inputs and the outputs of the various gates on it in different ways to implement different complex circuits.



 [3 images of baikal miners]


 Hmm, seems they changed the package when they moved from the old 150 to the cube 300 - probably why they changed the part number.
 Neither of those part numbers are standard FPGA numbers though.


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July 26, 2017, 08:51:41 PM
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Innosilicon miners cost too much

If it weren't for the D3s, they'd be the best buys in town... but the D3s DO exist... not to mention the fact that Innosilicon has a bad rep for over promising /under delivering hash rate / delivery date.

Agreed. Innosilicon blew a huge opportunity by overpricing the A5. If they had priced around USD$6-7k, they would've taken over the X11 market.
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July 27, 2017, 10:20:42 AM
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The D3s just went back on sale and sold out within an hour... I know Bitmain generally sells out quickly, but this has gotta be record, no?

 They don't seem to be sold out, more that their website seems to be broken at the moment - or they're ALMOST ready with the new batch but haven't actually gotten all the "back end" updated for it yet.


Might i recommend restarting your browser. Bitmain recently updated their site, u may get a 503 error unless you restart your browser.

They did sell a batch last night, Sept18-25 batch. Can't know how many they sold, but it sold out in an hour.


 Wasn't a browser issue - was that they had sold out but their website hadn't been updated to reflect it yet.
 They stated in an email response to me that they had sold out in "30 minutes".

 I DO believe that is a record for them - but I have to wonder how big the batch was, or if possibly some "whale" miner/farm bought a large piece of the batch in one big transaction.



I believe they updated their website prior to the sale, creating a 504 error that would pop up nless you closed and restarted your browser... something cookie related (?) I've already said more than I know. Thought maybe you were having that problem...

As for whales, I know they capped individual buys to 50 or under. I suppose somebody COULD have bought more from different accounts...

I think Bittawm picked up a few, if you're looking for to secure one.



Even Eastshore.xyz is out of stock (at least for now)...

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July 27, 2017, 12:28:23 PM
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Btw, I have a few Ibelink DM11Gs coming my way soon, so I'll be able to report how they run and what kindnof returns they generate  I'm hoping a-lot-of / most-of the increased difficulty has already hit the x11 algo bc the manufacturers are mining before they ship (would explain the recent spike in network hashrate).

Either way, I expect the next 2/ 2.5 months to be the most profitable.

If anybody's interested in one, PM me. I'm not particularly motivated to sell, since I bought them to mine and they were hard to comme by, but I might consider an offer if the price were right...
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July 27, 2017, 12:33:22 PM
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I know this is slightly off topic, but any suggestions for good X11 pools? Was especially looking for ones that merge mined and/or switched between different X11 coins (Cann, start etc)...

I tried to start a thread elsewhere on the subject, but so far it's received no love...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2044610.msg20361802#msg20361802

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very nicely put together.
the asic market is interresting because you have a much lower profile next to some big hot gpu rig.
and those new beasts deliver amazing results.
i actually had one of the d3 in my shopping cart but i couldnt change eth fast enough.
if you had one today you would make close to 10k this month, with 15gh
now the people says 10k is too much for innosilicion, but it is supposed to have 30gh
so if you would have one today it would earn you 20k! EACH MONTH!
yeah yeah i know difficulty rise, but even if the profits drop to 3k with the d3,
lets imagen the innosilicon is capable of running at 30gh and makes you 5-6k each month.
its a no brainer. if you have 10k, but one. if you have 100k, buy 10!
because the magical word is ROI,
someone tell be a quicker way to ROI and keep on collecting money while driving lauching to the bank.

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July 27, 2017, 12:58:25 PM
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very nicely put together.
the asic market is interresting because you have a much lower profile next to some big hot gpu rig.
and those new beasts deliver amazing results.
i actually had one of the d3 in my shopping cart but i couldnt change eth fast enough.
if you had one today you would make close to 10k this month, with 15gh
now the people says 10k is too much for innosilicion, but it is supposed to have 30gh
so if you would have one today it would earn you 20k! EACH MONTH!
yeah yeah i know difficulty rise, but even if the profits drop to 3k with the d3,
lets imagen the innosilicon is capable of running at 30gh and makes you 5-6k each month.
its a no brainer. if you have 10k, but one. if you have 100k, buy 10!
because the magical word is ROI,
someone tell be a quicker way to ROI and keep on collecting money while driving lauching to the bank.

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I guarantee you profits will drop much, much more than that as difficulty goes exponential on various X11 chains. Even $1000/month may not be reached when all of these miners are shipped and running. Plus, we don't know how many they are using themselves, as mining is currently so profitable.

That being said don't get ripped off by people selling preorders. They can easily go to support saying they lost their account and you will have essentially been scammed.
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July 27, 2017, 01:05:36 PM
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very nicely put together.
the asic market is interresting because you have a much lower profile next to some big hot gpu rig.
and those new beasts deliver amazing results.
i actually had one of the d3 in my shopping cart but i couldnt change eth fast enough.
if you had one today you would make close to 10k this month, with 15gh
now the people says 10k is too much for innosilicion, but it is supposed to have 30gh
so if you would have one today it would earn you 20k! EACH MONTH!
yeah yeah i know difficulty rise, but even if the profits drop to 3k with the d3,
lets imagen the innosilicon is capable of running at 30gh and makes you 5-6k each month.
its a no brainer. if you have 10k, but one. if you have 100k, buy 10!
because the magical word is ROI,
someone tell be a quicker way to ROI and keep on collecting money while driving lauching to the bank.

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It's a valid point. I'd say that crypto mining with new hardware is (at least for the moment) is very promising in general. I'm not (unfavprably) comparing the Innosillicon A5 to other asset classes (mutual funds, silver etc.), but rather to other mining hardware options in the same algo.

For roughly a thousand dollars ($1,000) less than the price of the Innosillicon A5, one could (hypothetically) buy 3 D3s and have 50 percent more hashpower (45 Gh / 30 GH)...

Of coURSE the 3 D3s would draw more electricty than the one A5, but that's about it.
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July 29, 2017, 10:38:22 PM
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Anybody have any idea about the electrical requirements of some of these devices. I know the wattage, but I'm finding the voltage / amps hard to come by.

Especially looking for details on the Ibelink 10.8 GH/s DM11G and Bitmain's D3.

Thanks for the help.
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It seems that getting access to any product is difficult and risky.

They are all second hand too. I would be 'testing' them while waiting to sell to risk adverse buyers as well. Cool

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July 30, 2017, 12:00:26 AM
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Anybody have any idea about the electrical requirements of some of these devices. I know the wattage, but I'm finding the voltage / amps hard to come by.

Especially looking for details on the Ibelink 10.8 GH/s DM11G and Bitmain's D3.

Thanks for the help.

Power Supply: 110V to 240V, 50Hz/60Hz
It should be between 4 to 7 amp
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July 30, 2017, 12:58:35 AM
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D3 is the best at this price. without a doubt. Inno's sold out recently.
Bitmains sales were only on 2 days and sold out fast. (second day <5 mins)

Managed to secure. Will see if it arrives on time and lives up to expectations.

Inno with their exchange was well over the price stated in USD. All sold out on a CGI Image of the device.... no photo. incredible!
Some people paid 12k USD for iBelink which they still didn't rec yet....

This mining game is tough..
Bought an iBelinlk 3 days before the D3 was released then 1 day later the Inno..



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July 30, 2017, 01:25:06 AM
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Anybody have any idea about the electrical requirements of some of these devices. I know the wattage, but I'm finding the voltage / amps hard to come by.

Especially looking for details on the Ibelink 10.8 GH/s DM11G and Bitmain's D3.

Thanks for the help.

Power Supply: 110V to 240V, 50Hz/60Hz
It should be between 4 to 7 amp


Thank you so much for your help.

Is that for the D3 or the Ibelink DM11G? I assume you're talking about the D3, but just wanted to make sure.

If the Antminer power supply has that range, is it reasonable to assume the D3 will use high end of that voltage range? Since their other lower wattage asics use the same power supply, I'm thinking the D3 would use more voltage than those lower wattage asic models (L3+, S9).
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July 30, 2017, 01:52:33 AM
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Anybody have any idea about the electrical requirements of some of these devices. I know the wattage, but I'm finding the voltage / amps hard to come by.

Especially looking for details on the Ibelink 10.8 GH/s DM11G and Bitmain's D3.

Thanks for the help.

 D3 is 12V DC powered, like ALL recent Bitmain devices.
 
 They specify "at the wall" wattages based on using a specific model of THEIR power supply.

 From that point, figure the voltage you can feed the PS then divide that into the watts rating for an approximate value for the amps.


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