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July 24, 2017, 02:51:46 AM
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先说一下前提: 我是支持纽约共识的,但是我不反对BCC的出现
BCC和BIP148的相同点:
都不需要算力投票,都是预计在8.1日直接分叉(当然了,因为BIP91激活了,所以BIP148也就失效了)
BCC和BIP148的主要不同点:
1 BC分叉后完全继承原始总账本,不修改任何账本数据。把区块上限提升到8M,删除了所有SW代码
2 BIP148的开发者威胁要在分叉后重写区块链数据,这会导致很多人丢币,造成巨大恐慌,所以之前业内才会对BIP148这么紧张。区块大小保持1M,加入了SW代码。
观察市场反应,之前SW2X正式版延期发布的时候,市场担忧BIP148会分叉,几天内急跌到12000元,而BIP91锁定后,市场回到19000元。
而BCC出现后,市场也出现短暂下跌,但是幅度小的多,目前稳在18000左右。
这说明BIP148的杀伤力比BCC大的多,毕竟BCC不会重写区块数据。
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再说一下纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
纽约共识其实是一群业内精英商讨出来的妥协方案。但是虽然SW已经基本搞定,但是后续的2M能否成功实现存在巨大不确定性,很多人担心小区块支持者达成纽约共识只是为了骗取激活SW而已。BTCC的包皮李在BIP91刚锁定的时候就迫不及待的发推问大家想要1M区块还是2M区块,这是几个意思?
精英们商讨出来的共识,一般来说问题不大,比独裁的core要好太多太多了。但是还有很大一部分群体喜欢大区块,喜欢纯粹的BTC,讨厌SW来“污染”BTC代码。但是这个群体到底有多大?有没有占据50%以上?没有一个合理的计算方式。他们是“沉默的大多数”。
然后BCC就出现了,有人说,纽约共识都达成了,你们为什么要在这个时间点闹事?以后无法升级2M的时候再搞不就名正言顺了吗?
错了,因为BIP91已经激活了,不支持SW的区块会被自动排除。所以BCC不得不出世了。
那BCC到底会是什么结果?变成类似ETC的存在?还是一段时间后死亡?还是翻身成为真正的BTC?
这只有市场才会告诉我们答案,喜欢BCC的就买入,不喜欢的就卖出。真金白银是无法作假的。
关于分叉的几个隐忧:
BCC这么一搞事,以后出现各种五花八门的分叉怎么办?
任何人都有分叉的权利,这很容易,但是分叉出来的版本是否有人接盘?这就很难了。BCC之所以没有砸到地板上,是因为支持大区块的群体人数众多,有人愿意买。
如果是几年前区块根本不堵的时候,BCC出来肯定没人鸟。
有人利用分叉圈钱怎么办?
注意,分叉和山寨币有本质区别,分叉完全继承了原始账本,意味着大家的权益都是一样的,没人有特权。而山寨币基本都会给发行团队预留很大一部分用来圈钱。
所以只有真正理念冲突长时间无法解决的时候,才有人不得不去分叉。
最后再提一下core: 他们肯定不会甘心BIP148就这么失败了,后面很大概率会执行无法避免的分叉,我同样表示欢迎,让市场来做抉择。
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Re: 让市场做抉择吧: BCC ,纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
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July 25, 2017, 03:45:15 AM
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Quote from: asiabtc on July 24, 2017, 03:16:18 AM
傻逼一群。比特大陆的狗粮吃多了。
尿翔你现在如此的癫狂,是不是心里着急害怕了。
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July 25, 2017, 06:31:07 AM
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July 25, 2017, 07:13:33 AM
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砸死狗日的纽约共识,BCC和纽约共识是一伙的
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Re: 让市场做抉择吧: BCC ,纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
July 25, 2017, 09:12:19 AM
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Re: 让市场做抉择吧: BCC ,纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
July 25, 2017, 02:34:47 PM
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我就有一个问题,老外会喜欢并且接盘bcc吗?如果我是老外,总觉得这bcc不是回事啊。反正我就觉得bcc就是山寨币而已
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Re: 让市场做抉择吧: BCC ,纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
July 25, 2017, 03:26:58 PM
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Re: 让市场做抉择吧: BCC ,纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
July 26, 2017, 09:29:11 AM
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sw2x的2M扩容之前core一定还会出来作怪的。现在有一个BCC也好,到时候btc的2M难产的话大区块支持者还有个退路。
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Re: 让市场做抉择吧: BCC ,纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
July 26, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
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感觉BTC已经是少数寡头控制的产物了,中本聪一开始肯定没想到会出现这种巨无霸级的矿场
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Re: 让市场做抉择吧: BCC ,纽约共识和“沉默的大多数”
July 28, 2017, 06:20:06 AM
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BCC为了core分裂比特币而做出的方案
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