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May 13, 2013, 09:52:23 PM
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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May 13, 2013, 10:06:31 PM
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I'm shocked.  Aren't you shocked?  Totally shocked.

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May 13, 2013, 10:09:29 PM
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For those of you who don't understand.
Butterfly labs is located at that location.
The giant red bar signifies that they're pulling some
serious hashrate via their ASCIs. They're driving difficulty up
while profiting and while creating the demand for their machines.

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May 13, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
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And to think they've spent little/none of their own money doing so.

Not only that, some people sent in their FPGAs because they were so close/ready to ship, they "felt comfortable" accepting the trade-ins.

What's the source of that map/graph?
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May 13, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
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What's the source of that map/graph?
https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe
http://www.butterflylabs.com/contact/

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May 13, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
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Holy ***!

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May 13, 2013, 10:35:34 PM
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Testers gonna test?
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May 13, 2013, 10:53:51 PM
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Testers gonna test?


Then they should use the god damn testnet, thats why its there. God damnit BFL, I hate you even more now you scum! This shit pisses me off....
I really hope one of their asics burns down their building.

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May 13, 2013, 10:54:49 PM
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Having a hard time determining how those spikes correlate to hashing power.  Now, mind you, I'll be one of the first in line to say something underhanded is going on with BFL (and also one of the first to eat my words should they start sending UPS tracking numbers by the 1000s anytime soon).  But, it looks like those are simply showing connected nodes and "uptime".

http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-68-115-80-0-1/pft

If you look at the list and not the pretty picture (it is cool!), you'll see a node on Charter that has more uptime than all the others.

Going through the blockchain blocks list, it looks like the pools are still getting all the blocks.  Now, BFL is probably on those pools with YOUR machines, but I'm not sure that would be represented by a chart like this.  After all, mining on a pool, is like using a proxy.  You don't see who's hashing inside the pool necessarily.  Correct me if I'm wrong here...


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May 13, 2013, 11:20:32 PM
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May 13, 2013, 11:21:06 PM
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For those of you who don't understand.
Butterfly labs is located at that location.
The giant red bar signifies that they're pulling some
serious hashrate via their ASCIs. They're driving difficulty up
while profiting and while creating the demand for their machines.

Isn't that reaching and assuming just a teeny tiny bit?
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May 13, 2013, 11:43:44 PM
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For those of you who don't understand.
Butterfly labs is located at that location.
The giant red bar signifies that they're pulling some
serious hashrate via their ASCIs. They're driving difficulty up
while profiting and while creating the demand for their machines.

They do need to get 1000 BTC...

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May 14, 2013, 12:36:46 AM
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It's not like there's a top bitcoin pool in Kansas City or anything... oh wait...

Dhenson: consummate idiot.

Feel like defending your intelligence now?

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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May 14, 2013, 12:44:44 AM
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It's not like there's a top bitcoin pool in Kansas City or anything... oh wait...

Dhenson: consummate idiot.

Feel like defending your intelligence now?



Unusually, I have to come to Josh's defense on this one.

Just the slight oversight of Josh's datacenter and hashing hosting operation to consider.



umm, dur.

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May 14, 2013, 12:46:03 AM
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Sigh. Was all set to jump in with a witty retort but it looks like its 2 points Inaba.

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May 14, 2013, 02:33:22 AM
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In order to have that much hashing power, BFL would have to actually PRODUCE something.  Did you forget that one important detail?
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May 14, 2013, 02:50:51 AM
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That fancy world map is just a graph of the 1149 nodes that the blockchain.info client is connected to, and then it charts the number of incoming transactions that get relayed by that node first. It's not a map of hashrate or even blocks found, it's a map of the largest bitcoind nodes that they happen to be monitoring.

This came up months ago, and it was proven to be nothing but the fact that EMC is physically located right in that same area. Herpy-durp!

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May 14, 2013, 03:29:20 AM
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It's not like there's a top bitcoin pool in Kansas City or anything... oh wait...
Dhenson: consummate idiot.
Feel like defending your intelligence now?

Is that your official (and as always eloquent) denial that BFL is not hashing on customer equipment?
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May 14, 2013, 03:29:58 AM
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It's not like there's a top bitcoin pool in Kansas City or anything... oh wait...

Dhenson: consummate idiot.

Feel like defending your intelligence now?


And that's exactly why I would never do business with BFL.

Feel like defending your professionalism?  Feel like defending your word on shipping by Christmas time last year?  Feel like defending your honor.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

You must view yourself as the country bumpkin version of the Soup Nazi.... except there's no soup.
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May 14, 2013, 04:19:25 AM
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It's not like there's a top bitcoin pool in Kansas City or anything... oh wait...
Dhenson: consummate idiot.
Feel like defending your intelligence now?

I'm sorry, but the coincidence is just too great to ignore.  Of all the 30,000+ cities in the United States, the largest concentration of U.S. hashing is situated in your backyard and yet we are to believe that you aren't involved?  Really?

You didn't even bother to deny it, you simply jumped straight to the personal attack.  This is a well known tactic used by companies all over the world to discourage dissent in online forums.  You sir do, it well.

It simply isn't possible for Josh to spout off like this and keep his job if he didn't have the consent of his boss(es).  Why would the company support this flagrant behavior if not to discourage dissent whilst continuing to ram the proverbial hashing rod deep within our collective rectum?
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