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July 25, 2017, 05:27:13 PM
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I am running two websites, with 5000-7000 USD per month Adsense earning. I want to sell some stakes of one of them (like 5%). I have approximated its value equal to 5 years earning on Adsense at the current level. if I take 3000 $ per month, its value equivalent to 5 years earning becomes 180000 USD. Can I make waves tokens or some other type of currency and sell 10% of stakes of one of my website, and then pay the stake holders on monthly basis. because I need to buy some hardware to setup server at my warehouse. it would be great if I can raise 5-6 BTC by selling that 10%.

monthly earning website A+B $5000-7000 per month
approximate for website A $3000 per month (~1.1 BTC or say 1 BTC)
5-year income 60 BTC (~ set as value of the website)
10% shares (~6 BTC)
make 60,000 tokens (0.0001 BTC each)
send monthly profit to token holders in the form of BTC (according to their USD value)

I need suggestions from some experts in this field that am I correct in these calculations, I don't know how to do this in the crypto market.
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July 25, 2017, 08:03:37 PM
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not an expert, but you have to take into account the volatilty and acceptance of crypto. I'll be devil's advocate here. As a potential investor I see two major risks.

1)  the token you issue has no value at all if it is some token you simply create. who would buy it? what is the market cap? how about liquidity?

2) if you pay in an existing coin, e.g. waves or btc, there's the high volatility risk. why don't you pay me in dollars?



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July 26, 2017, 02:28:33 AM
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not an expert, but you have to take into account the volatilty and acceptance of crypto. I'll be devil's advocate here. As a potential investor I see two major risks.

1)  the token you issue has no value at all if it is some token you simply create. who would buy it? what is the market cap? how about liquidity?

2) if you pay in an existing coin, e.g. waves or btc, there's the high volatility risk. why don't you pay me in dollars?





thank you for your valuable response.

1. these tokens would be backed by income via proof of income attached (e.g. AdSense reports of previous years month-wise)
2. i can pay in dollars or BTC/WAVES, but dollars payment has much higher transaction costs internationally, I can add an option to be withdrawn in dollars via PayPal, transaction costs will be borne by the shareholder.

criticism of any strength and hardness is welcome, I want to know whether I can share some of the stakes of my website because I do not want to sell my website (as it will be the only option left if I cannot sell 10%).
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July 26, 2017, 04:23:17 AM
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People here prefer zero trust systems while your investors have to hope for your payments every month.

How about creating a smart contract that allows investors to specify their Adsense account?
For every page hit you choose an account proportionally to the number on tokens owned by everyone so people receive directly money from Google.
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July 26, 2017, 01:31:35 PM
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People here prefer zero trust systems while your investors have to hope for your payments every month.

How about creating a smart contract that allows investors to specify their Adsense account?
For every page hit you choose an account proportionally to the number on tokens owned by everyone so people receive directly money from Google.
Yeah.. . Many users that have to maintain their Zero trust so that there investors take a risk that they are believing in many users without trust and pay them a good income..
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July 26, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
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right, but how can I do that? I do not know about the smart contract. do I need to involve a third company in between

ADSENSE: how can I distribute AdSense income directly to their accounts (in their respective AdSense accounts), while I have to place one code to the website and it appears on every website opening, and every page view and ad click do not generate same income each time.

How if I separate 10000 stakes aside for the management of this system. like bounty and salary type of stuff? and sell other 50000 to the investors.

how beneficial is a third party involvement? if the third party is a smart contract. I was told anything is possible in the blockchain. I can pay if someone some stakes to manage these things.

A healthy criticism is very much appreciated.
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July 26, 2017, 02:12:26 PM
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Well depending on your CMS system you use in your website you can use multiautor profit share tools to set up something similiar to smart contracts.
But as far as income from Adsense is based on ad being clicked (active window and cpm ones are usually less than 2% of income), associating website impressions to different adsense codes will create a violate spread in particular shareholder earnings.
As far as i know there is no official Adsense solution for distributing profits proportionaly between shareholders other than manual distribution after cashing out from one Adsense account.

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July 26, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
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Can we see the websites? An investor wouldn't believe you without seeing the websites.

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July 29, 2017, 10:21:41 AM
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I have sent website address in PM

I would definately publish all the supporting information if i launch the sale. I need to know how can i do this.
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July 29, 2017, 11:18:50 AM
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I have sent website address in PM

I would definately publish all the supporting information if i launch the sale. I need to know how can i do this.

I would say a business like this is mostly done offline rather than going through the rigour of token creation which might not even raise that amount you are looking into, because of the paucity of funds that might affect the awareness, then I suggest you go the route of venture capitalist as in individual or individuals who will put the money down for an exchange of ownership like you promised here but it has to be done physically and binded by enforceable agreement with that, you save the stress of getting strangers to trust you which is not cheap around here.
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July 30, 2017, 06:06:17 AM
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I have sent website address in PM

I would definately publish all the supporting information if i launch the sale. I need to know how can i do this.

I would say a business like this is mostly done offline rather than going through the rigour of token creation which might not even raise that amount you are looking into, because of the paucity of funds that might affect the awareness, then I suggest you go the route of venture capitalist as in individual or individuals who will put the money down for an exchange of ownership like you promised here but it has to be done physically and binded by enforceable agreement with that, you save the stress of getting strangers to trust you which is not cheap around here.

you are right, I have already tried that, but buyers need 100% share of the website. I didn't find anyone to buy 10% of it. so i was advised that i can come here. Now i understand the idea and type of business i am trying is not possible here.
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July 30, 2017, 06:11:41 AM
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I have sent website address in PM

I would definately publish all the supporting information if i launch the sale. I need to know how can i do this.

I would say a business like this is mostly done offline rather than going through the rigour of token creation which might not even raise that amount you are looking into, because of the paucity of funds that might affect the awareness, then I suggest you go the route of venture capitalist as in individual or individuals who will put the money down for an exchange of ownership like you promised here but it has to be done physically and binded by enforceable agreement with that, you save the stress of getting strangers to trust you which is not cheap around here.

you are right, I have already tried that, but buyers need 100% share of the website. I didn't find anyone to buy 10% of it. so i was advised that i can come here. Now i understand the idea and type of business i am trying is not possible here.

The only way it would be possible is if you have a trusted escrow to take it over and give you 90% and 10% to your investors.

It still isn't trust proof but it could potentially work that way, otherwise no one is going to trust you on your word.
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