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July 26, 2017, 05:18:06 AM
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It seems Btc-e hacked and hackers erasing traces.
here is a proof : https://blockchain.info/address/18f1yugoAJuXcHAbsuRVLQC9TezJ6iVRLp

its really interesting that meanwhile bitmixer announced that they shut off.

Total of 66k BTC stolen.
will see btc price will crash soon.
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July 26, 2017, 05:37:18 AM
Last edit: July 26, 2017, 05:49:35 AM by Herbert2020
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proof!! this is not proof. this is a random bitcoin address that you found with a large amount of bitcoin in it and that large amount has been moved. i can show you at least 10 other similar addresses moving similar amounts the similar ways.

and neither google nor walletexplorer.com show any indication that this belongs to btc-e.

if you have any real proof share it with us. otherwise this is a random guess and close to FUD.

edit:
here is who that address is linked to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg8988815#msg8988815
nice FUD bro... and good luck shorting bitcoin Wink

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Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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July 26, 2017, 05:46:39 AM
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It seems Btc-e hacked and hackers erasing traces.
here is a proof : https://blockchain.info/address/18f1yugoAJuXcHAbsuRVLQC9TezJ6iVRLp

its really interesting that meanwhile bitmixer announced that they shut off.

Total of 66k BTC stolen.
will see btc price will crash soon.

If this information was real the bitcoin price would have crashed to 1500 USD pretty fast.
Right now the price is 2479 USD and nobody announced that btc-e is hacked.
Yes,i know that Bitmixer is down,but this doesn`t have anything related to Btc-e.
Try to provide a more genuine proof,OP.

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July 26, 2017, 05:52:12 AM
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What is happening to BTCe and why would anyone think that they are hacked? All I got from their Twitter account is they are having an unscheduled maintenance. If they were hacked they would have told everyone already. There is no use hiding it.

But the "maintenance" is taking too long and there are people asking for an explanation. An exit scam is more possible if they do not come back anymore.

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July 26, 2017, 05:52:37 AM
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This is speculation thread and these are my speculations.
Btc-e is offline more then 18 hours. and there are huge wallet transactions.
Remember Mtgox please. And they start to dump it similar to MTgox history.
Wait and see the btc price action.
btc-e down and same time bitmixer down. what you will think?
i am not sherlock but these are my stupid theory Smiley
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July 26, 2017, 06:15:44 AM
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This is speculation thread and these are my speculations.
no this is not speculation, this is "guess" based on imagination. i have already linked above who those coins belong to. they have nothing to do with btc-e yet you insist on it.

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Btc-e is offline more then 18 hours.
resyncing your node and going through all the security measures and checking everything to see if you are not leaking anything sensitive is going to take a long time. it is not a 1 hour job.

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and there are huge wallet transactions.
there is about 8-9 million bitcoins moving around in transactions every single day.

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btc-e down and same time bitmixer down. what you will think?
bitmixer stopped their operation about a week ago.
btc-e went down for maintenance less than 24 hours ago!

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i am not sherlock but these are my stupid theory Smiley
yes Wink
but in all seriousness even if btc-e is hacked, you are trying so hard to relate unrelated stuff to this. your "facts" that you are using for your "theory" are ridiculous at best...

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Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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July 26, 2017, 06:39:34 AM
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It seems Btc-e hacked and hackers erasing traces.
here is a proof : https://blockchain.info/address/18f1yugoAJuXcHAbsuRVLQC9TezJ6iVRLp

its really interesting that meanwhile bitmixer announced that they shut off.

Total of 66k BTC stolen.
will see btc price will crash soon.

So you are saying Bitmixer closed a highly profitable business, because they were part of the heist/hack? Why would you close a highly profitable business that generates income daily, to pull of a 66k bitcoin heist? At some time Bitmixer.io had a pool of over 2000 coins in circulation to mix coins for daily profits.

The owner of Bitmixer.io closed his site, because he acknowledge that his site might be used for illegal activities too and this bothered him. Will Cellphone companies close their doors, because people use Cellphones for crime? Nope!

The internet is used for criminal activities daily and nobody is shutting it down. Why? The reason is simple, the legal use of the internet, far outweigh the illegal activities that are done with it. ^smile^

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July 26, 2017, 07:15:36 AM
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btc-e down and same time bitmixer down. what you will think?
i am not sherlock but these are my stupid theory Smiley

At least I'm glad that you realize that your stupid theory is just a random bit of gibberish. You just try to link one event with another event for trolling purposes. If the people behind BTC-E would pull off an inside theft, they would have gone a whole different way (i.e. a non obvious way). It doesn't even make sense to run off with an x amount of coins, while these days are the most profitable days for basically ANY exchange in terms of fee income. They were easily making $200K worth of fee income, per day! What idiot would choose to run off?
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July 26, 2017, 08:16:32 AM
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I hope it's not true and BTC-e comes back online soon.
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July 26, 2017, 08:24:22 AM
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What is happening to BTCe and why would anyone think that they are hacked? All I got from their Twitter account is they are having an unscheduled maintenance. If they were hacked they would have told everyone already. There is no use hiding it.

But the "maintenance" is taking too long and there are people asking for an explanation. An exit scam is more possible if they do not come back anymore.

How many multi-million dollar companies have their servers in a place where their host has unscheduled maintenance?

That shit should be on triple redundancy systems with any maintenance requiring at least 24 hour advanced notice of any downtime.

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Hopefully BTC-e is getting ready for segwit activation (a probable reason for offline mode) and its traders too. They are all moving bitcoins into new wallets for their own reasons. I do not think a person will sell all his 66k bitcoins at once. I believe there will be no more incidents like what we experienced with mtgox. Now a days lot of exchanges hence dominance and significance of one single exchange is literally got erased some long time back itself.
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July 26, 2017, 09:42:06 AM
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I have a significant amount of NMC on BTC-e. I haven't seen a lot of transactions in the last 24 hours that would indicate that their NMC wallet was hacked.

Though I've been trying to get access to my account for the past month but they won't let me log in until I'm verified (I did not log in for over a year).

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July 26, 2017, 10:04:43 AM
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I have a significant amount of NMC on BTC-e. I haven't seen a lot of transactions in the last 24 hours that would indicate that their NMC wallet was hacked.

Though I've been trying to get access to my account for the past month but they won't let me log in until I'm verified (I did not log in for over a year).

As per BTC-e, they are doing a unplanned maintenance. Its almost 24 hours since they reported this news. Probably we need to wait a little longer and not spread FUD that will cause panic to members who have funds in BTC-e.

https://twitter.com/btcecom

It seems Btc-e hacked and hackers erasing traces.
here is a proof : https://blockchain.info/address/18f1yugoAJuXcHAbsuRVLQC9TezJ6iVRLp

its really interesting that meanwhile bitmixer announced that they shut off.

Total of 66k BTC stolen.
will see btc price will crash soon.

No proof there dude. Unless BTC-e has confirmed that they are hacked, we can only speculate as what is going on. Again, the latest news is that they are doing unplanned maintenance. So what we can do is to wait until they are done. Here read Bitmixer official announcement regarding stopping their mixing services.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042470.msg20337552#msg20337552

I hope it's not true and BTC-e comes back online soon.
Always been my preferred place to check prices/ratios with the sometimes entertaining trollbox clowns.

As of now all we can do is really wait and hoping for the best. Yes. the trollbox is very entertaining indeed. We should stay calm and not speculate. No need to panic as well.

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EDIT: The following piece of info supersedes and confirms anything below. Sadly. Goodbye btc-e ?



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"The 38-year-old is characterized by the US authorities as one of the leading members of an organization that was running large amounts of money through an online bitcoin digital exchange platform to help them "launder" more than $ 4 billion from 2011 to date! This is the BTC-e platform , which after the 38-year-old is arrested as the US prosecution investigation is in full swing."

Source (Greek): http://www.dailythess.gr/h-megali-klopi-bitcoins-dark-web-ke-chlidati-zoi-tou-rosou-pou-entopise-fbi-sti-chalkidiki/

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BREAKING: Russian man arrested in Greece connected to BTC-e cryptocurrency exchange

Source: https://twitter.com/ReutersTech/status/890232366320553984


Below the former "speculation".

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Maybe related ?



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A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-suspect-idUSKBN1AB1VR?il=0

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He is suspected of heading a criminal organization since 2011 that "owns, operates and manages one of the world's leading e-crime websites", police said in a statement.

Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-idUKKBN1AB1OP?il=0

Seems he is being charged (also) for unlicensed money-transfer activity.
Source ( Greek ): http://www.astynomia.gr/index.php?option=ozo_content&lang=%27..%27&perform=view&id=72985&Itemid=1916&lang=

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The detainee was held on four counts of running an unlicensed money-transfer operation, conspiracy, money laundering in violation of 17 acts in the U.S. criminal code, and transactions in cash acquired through illicit means.

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/26/reuters-america-update-1-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-bln-bitcoin-laundering-ring.html

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According to Greek police, part of the suspect's illegal gains came from the collapse in 2014 of Tokyo-based Bitcoin exhange Mt. Gox. A California court issued a warrant for his arrest in January, they said.

Source: https://www.pakistanpoint.com/en/business/news/russian-sought-in-bitcoin-laundering-held-in-167362.html




WARNING, PURE SPECULATION BELOW:
Not here to spread FUD, just to collect some information, for what's possible at current stage.

Afaik one of the founders of btc-e is supposedly named Alexander.
maybe a simple coincidence, not uncommon name for Russians.


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After taking a closer look, it seemed we could assume the exchange was based in Cyprus. The terms of use on BTC-e’s website stated the exchange was governed by the laws applicable in Cyprus. However, when looking up the website through Google, the description says BTC-e operates from Bulgaria. Neither could be proven so these discoveries won’t bring any more clarity. The only certainty, as far as certainty about BTC-e goes, would be the involvement of Russia. BTC-e’s helpdesk releases periodic updates, presented in Russian and English. The presence of Russian currency on the website also indicate this. A December interview with CoinDesk, one of the few interviews BTC-e ever did, gave away the names of Aleksey and Alexander. Both are names that are well represented in Russia.

Source: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/btc-e-trustworthy-or-recipe-for-disaster/

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Alexander Vinnik admin of BTC-e ? arrested in Greece for $ 4 billion in Bitcoin money laundering

Source: https://thebitcoinnews.com/alexander-vinnik-admin-btc-e-arrested-greece-4-billion-bitcoin-money-laundering/



Some interesting topic found by user TheKoziTwo, related or not? You judge.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126552.0

Alexander Vinnik User profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43575


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July 26, 2017, 02:22:58 PM
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I guess you found the reality.
Thank you .

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A Russian arrested in Greece on suspicion of running a money laundering operation through a bitcoin platform is 38 year old Alexander Vinnik, police sources said on Wednesday.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-suspect-idUSKBN1AB1VR?il=0

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He is suspected of heading a criminal organization since 2011 that "owns, operates and manages one of the world's leading e-crime websites", police said in a statement.

Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-idUKKBN1AB1OP?il=0

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According to Greek police, part of the suspect's illegal gains came from the collapse in 2014 of Tokyo-based Bitcoin exhange Mt. Gox. A California court issued a warrant for his arrest in January, they said.

Source: https://www.pakistanpoint.com/en/business/news/russian-sought-in-bitcoin-laundering-held-in-167362.html
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that's not good
have quite a few LTC there, crap

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Both guys have "1967" on their T-shirts (the fat guy in blue arresting the thin guy in black). Coincidence?

https://thebitcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Alexander-Vinnik-admin-of-BTC-e-arrested-in-Greece-for-4-billion-in-Bitcoin-money-laundering.-696x449.jpg

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July 26, 2017, 03:49:16 PM
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Now my actual "stupid" theory turns "clever"
But still there is questions on timing of bitmixer
Its really meaningfull
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July 26, 2017, 04:00:53 PM
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everyone who has fiat at any of services like moneypolo and such should write them, that they should freeze btc-e funds until everything is cleared.

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July 26, 2017, 04:02:20 PM
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Now my actual "stupid" theory turns "clever"
But still there is questions on timing of bitmixer
Its really meaningfull

It seems like a crazy theory but true ... lol
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