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July 26, 2017, 03:10:52 PM
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Holy shit this is a series and a half, huh? Can't imagine that whoever is the owner of these (could take a guess) made the decision to sell it off lightly.

Whoever wins this will surely have something to keep for years and tell future bitcoinists about.



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Holy shit. I wonder how much this will end up selling for. Must be an insane amount!

Definitely! If it does not break Kialara records here on the forum I'll be dissapointed.

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July 26, 2017, 03:12:06 PM
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Holy shit. I wonder how much this will end up selling for. Must be an insane amount!

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July 26, 2017, 04:03:52 PM
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2 - They have set a reserve price.
Stealthy placed, and likely non-realistic (not that it can't be reached), reserve price.


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July 26, 2017, 04:13:42 PM
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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

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July 26, 2017, 04:18:40 PM
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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

Excuse me Og but you are grasping at straws here. How is that an attempt to manipulate the auction price? If any user were to hold that auction themselves they'd probably make the exact same comment and a lot of people bidding could probably put 2 and 2 together to figure out the items belonged to Tman.

I've even seen you make such comments on your own auctions and I honestly think this is a futile attempt to derail an auction. Minerjones usually offers these services for nothing or a very small fee. He is an outstanding member of this community and even though I can see that your attack is aimed towards TMAN, Minerjones gets caught in the crossfire for some stupid argument you and TMAN are having.

Enough is enough.

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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

Excuse me Og but you are grasping at straws here. How is that an attempt to manipulate the auction price? If any user were to hold that auction themselves they'd probably make the exact same comment and a lot of people bidding could probably put 2 and 2 together to figure out the items belonged to Tman.

I've even seen you make such comments on your own auctions and I honestly think this is a futile attempt to derail an auction. Minerjones usually offers these services for nothing or a very small fee. He is an outstanding member of this community and even though I can see that your attack is aimed towards TMAN, Minerjones gets caught in the crossfire for some stupid argument you and TMAN are having.

Enough is enough.

I think they're fair and reasonable questions.  I don't use 3rd parties to auction my items...  Let's try to stay on topic.

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July 26, 2017, 04:36:05 PM
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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

Excuse me Og but you are grasping at straws here. How is that an attempt to manipulate the auction price? If any user were to hold that auction themselves they'd probably make the exact same comment and a lot of people bidding could probably put 2 and 2 together to figure out the items belonged to Tman.

I've even seen you make such comments on your own auctions and I honestly think this is a futile attempt to derail an auction. Minerjones usually offers these services for nothing or a very small fee. He is an outstanding member of this community and even though I can see that your attack is aimed towards TMAN, Minerjones gets caught in the crossfire for some stupid argument you and TMAN are having.

Enough is enough.

I think they're fair and reasonable questions.  I don't use 3rd parties to auction my items...  Let's try to stay on topic.



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July 26, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

I cannot control what people post unless I have a self-moderated thread... which I will not do at this time.

I can post a screenshot of the PM that was sent to me before the auction started with the stated reserve price.

In the future, I can ask for signed message, etc with this information to help with the transparency.

Thanks

You're welcome.

While you cannot control what people post, you could point out when someone using you service is attempting to manipulate the auction.

I would suggest proving the reserve price by using a signed message and posting the signature publicly, then going back and posting the message so it can be verified when the auction has completed.  Posting screenshots can be manipulated so many ways, or the seller could have sent you multiple messages to be screenshots.  Might as well use Bitcoin to prove things like this to remove any possible doubt. 

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July 26, 2017, 04:51:13 PM
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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

I cannot control what people post unless I have a self-moderated thread... which I will not do at this time.

I can post a screenshot of the PM that was sent to me before the auction started with the stated reserve price.

In the future, I can ask for signed message, etc with this information to help with the transparency.

Thanks

You're welcome.

While you cannot control what people post, you could point out when someone using you service is attempting to manipulate the auction.

I would suggest proving the reserve price by using a signed message and posting the signature publicly, then going back and posting the message so it can be verified when the auction has completed.  Posting screenshots can be manipulated so many ways, or the seller could have sent you multiple messages to be screenshots.  Might as well use Bitcoin to prove things like this to remove any possible doubt. 

I'm curious why you find the status of the reserve to be relevant at all.  What difference does it make if the reserve is known or secret?  The worst that can happen is a reserve is not met and the items are not sold.  Who is losing money here?
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July 26, 2017, 05:05:53 PM
 #15

PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

I cannot control what people post unless I have a self-moderated thread... which I will not do at this time.

I can post a screenshot of the PM that was sent to me before the auction started with the stated reserve price.

In the future, I can ask for signed message, etc with this information to help with the transparency.

Thanks

You're welcome.

While you cannot control what people post, you could point out when someone using you service is attempting to manipulate the auction.

I would suggest proving the reserve price by using a signed message and posting the signature publicly, then going back and posting the message so it can be verified when the auction has completed.  Posting screenshots can be manipulated so many ways, or the seller could have sent you multiple messages to be screenshots.  Might as well use Bitcoin to prove things like this to remove any possible doubt. 

I'm curious why you find the status of the reserve to be relevant at all.  What difference does it make if the reserve is known or secret?  The worst that can happen is a reserve is not met and the items are not sold.  Who is losing money here?

He posted the reserve, but the way it's done is meaningless.  I figured I'd save minerjones any potential issues by pointing out the hole in his process before it has time to become a problem.  The proper response would be his "Thank you" and not questioning the person trying to help him fix his process to be transparent. 

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July 26, 2017, 05:10:40 PM
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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

I cannot control what people post unless I have a self-moderated thread... which I will not do at this time.

I can post a screenshot of the PM that was sent to me before the auction started with the stated reserve price.

In the future, I can ask for signed message, etc with this information to help with the transparency.

Thanks

You're welcome.

While you cannot control what people post, you could point out when someone using you service is attempting to manipulate the auction.

I would suggest proving the reserve price by using a signed message and posting the signature publicly, then going back and posting the message so it can be verified when the auction has completed.  Posting screenshots can be manipulated so many ways, or the seller could have sent you multiple messages to be screenshots.  Might as well use Bitcoin to prove things like this to remove any possible doubt. 

I'm curious why you find the status of the reserve to be relevant at all.  What difference does it make if the reserve is known or secret?  The worst that can happen is a reserve is not met and the items are not sold.  Who is losing money here?

He posted the reserve, but the way it's done is meaningless.  I figured I'd save minerjones any potential issues by pointing out the hole in his process before it has time to become a problem.  The proper response would be his "Thank you" and not questioning the person trying to help him fix his process to be transparent. 

You didn't address my questions at all.  What did you offer that was worth a thank you from mj?
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July 26, 2017, 05:36:35 PM
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PLEASE NOTE:
1 - These are being auctioned off on behalf of a 3rd Party.
2 - They have set a reserve price.
3 - The bars are located with me (minerjones)


In the past, you've allowed the 3rd party seller to make statements to manipulate the auction price while keeping their identity hidden.  Is that something you'll be allowing on this auction as well?

Is there a publicly verifiable method of confirming the reserve price after the auction has completed?

I cannot control what people post unless I have a self-moderated thread... which I will not do at this time.

I can post a screenshot of the PM that was sent to me before the auction started with the stated reserve price.

In the future, I can ask for signed message, etc with this information to help with the transparency.

Thanks

You're welcome.

While you cannot control what people post, you could point out when someone using you service is attempting to manipulate the auction.

I would suggest proving the reserve price by using a signed message and posting the signature publicly, then going back and posting the message so it can be verified when the auction has completed.  Posting screenshots can be manipulated so many ways, or the seller could have sent you multiple messages to be screenshots.  Might as well use Bitcoin to prove things like this to remove any possible doubt. 

I'm curious why you find the status of the reserve to be relevant at all.  What difference does it make if the reserve is known or secret?  The worst that can happen is a reserve is not met and the items are not sold.  Who is losing money here?

He posted the reserve, but the way it's done is meaningless.  I figured I'd save minerjones any potential issues by pointing out the hole in his process before it has time to become a problem.  The proper response would be his "Thank you" and not questioning the person trying to help him fix his process to be transparent. 

Does that mean that you should say "thank you" to Tman for pointing out that multisig is a lot safer to store forum funds?
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July 26, 2017, 05:40:39 PM
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Does that mean that you should say "thank you" to Tman for pointing out that multisig is a lot safer to store forum funds?

I don't consider adding more people to my established process as a way to make it safer.

Again, let's not derail this thread.  My questions were legitimate and on topic.

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July 26, 2017, 05:49:28 PM
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Does that mean that you should say "thank you" to Tman for pointing out that multisig is a lot safer to store forum funds?

I don't consider adding more people to my established process as a way to make it safer.

Again, let's not derail this thread.  My questions were legitimate and on topic.
Meh.. you said kialara pieces are way over priced and people should dump them fast ( or something similar, on mobile so can't link)

You are just here throwing weight Around because I have pissed you off again. You are like the bloke who drives a lambo because he has a micro penis..

Is that the issue? Your coins are devaluing so your already small manhood is hurt? So you try to derail the competitions auctions?  You haven't liked kialara for years, yet Max's work are a superior investment than anything you put your mitts on..

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July 26, 2017, 07:07:07 PM
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Any user who posts a reserve that isn't hashed or told to a verified member gets absolutely destroyed my the community but because MJ does it, it makes it oakyy?
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