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July 28, 2017, 04:55:10 AM
Last edit: September 05, 2017, 05:28:48 AM by tokeweed
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Date: Saturday, September 9th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:15 BCT / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 2:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
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Main Card (PPV)

Demetrious Johnson (26-2-1) vs. Ray Borg (11-2) (Flyweight Championship)
Amanda Nunes (14-4) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (14-2) (Women's Bantamweight Championship)
Neil Magny (19-5) vs. Rafael dos Anjos (26-9) (Welterweight)
Ilir Latifi (12-5) vs. Tyson Pedro (6-0) (Light Heavyweight)
Jeremy Stephens (25-14) vs. Gilbert Melendez (22-6) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Sara McMann (11-3) vs. Ketlen Vieira (8-0) (Women's Bantamweight)
Henry Cejudo (10-2) vs. Wilson Reis (22-7) (Flyweight)
Sarah Moras (4-2) vs. Ashlee Evans-Smith (5-2) (Women's Bantamweight)
Gavin Tucker (10-0) vs. Rick Glenn (19-4-1) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Mitch Clarke (11-4) vs. Alex White (11-3) (Lightweight)
Luis Henrique (10-3) vs. Arjan Bhullar (6-0) (Heavyweight)
Kajan Johnson (21-11-1) vs. Adriano Martins (28-8) (Lightweight)

Other

- Former UFC Heavyweight Champion Junior dos Santos was expected to face Francis Ngannou, but on August 18 it was announced that he was pulled from the card after being notified by USADA of a potential doping violation. He was flagged after an out-of-competition drug test conducted August 10. Dos Santos tested positive for hydrochlorothiazide and his team is currently working on testing 2 supplements as a possible source for it. In turn, Ngannou was removed from the card after promotion officials deemed that a suitable opponent could not be arranged.

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August 08, 2017, 06:59:52 PM
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Im looking forward to see the Amanda Nunes vs Valentina Shevchenko    fight. The last time, Amanda Nunes said that she was sick. Dana White didn't believe it, and he said she will not fight as main card or something like that. We will see what happens.

Also good to see Junior Dos Santos fight again, but The Predator is a very dangerous guy, he will go for the KO for sure.

Would like to see the winner of Johnson vs Borg in a big fight like vs Cody Garbrandt.
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Amanda Nunes pulled out of the last scheduled fight with Valentina Shevchenko claiming her sinusitis was too bad for her to fight. I've never heard of sinusitis before Nunes mentioned it. Can't say if its a valid excuse for pulling out.

I think this will be Gilbert Melendez first attempt to fight in the 145 lb weight division.

Henry Cejudo and Wilson Reis being on the card could mean one of them will fight Demetrious Johnson for the title if Ray Borg is injured or pulls out. Sara McMann could also step in for either Amanda Nunes or Valentina Shevchenko if one of them is injured or unable to fight.

Many interesting match ups on this card.

Hey guys, this will be the thread for UFC 215.  The event will be on September 29, 2017 at Rogers Place in Edmonton, Alberta.

Small correction: the event will be on September 9th not 29th.

UFC Fight Night Stefan Struve vs Alexander Vokov will also be on september 2nd.
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@krach. Yes, after what Amanda Nunes has shown in the her last UFC, Valentina will surely be the favorite this time. Odds for her right now is -109. I speculate that it will not get better than this.

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Pretty stack up fights for me. Interesting to see Gilbert at 145 lbs. He is in a losing streak and he says that he has injury in his knees that requires him to be out of over a year. His opponent is no push over as well,. Its gonna be exciting to see this Stephens and Gilbert banging it up. I'm picking up Gilbert.

On the other hand, Junior dos Santos vs. Francis Ngannou, Francis is riding a winning streak as well, he last defeat Arlovski and he is taking another ex-champ here dos Santos. I think Junior dos Santos has seen better days. So I'm going with Francis this time.

Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko - Too much hype already on this one. Amanda pulling off in the last minute was not good for the fans. I think Valentina will be the favorite here. So I have her winning just for the heck on going on a 3rd fight.

Demetrious Johnson vs. Ray Borg - Borg is a solid young fighter, but I think Johnson has all the tools in his toolbox and will be able to take advantage of a somewhat limited fighter in Borg. Johnson is like Jones, have a hard time picking against them due to them being able to win in any style and proving time and time again that they’re the best in the business. Johnson easy picking.
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August 10, 2017, 05:25:48 AM
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Dos Santos is clearly in it for whatever money he can scrounge from the UFC now.  He has no chance against getting a rematch with Miocic for the time being and it's doubtful he can beat Ngannou.  I guess it would be safe to say that he's just a gate keeper in the division now?

As for Nunes, hmmm...  Make it 2.25 and up and I'll put money on her.

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August 10, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
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Dos Santos is clearly in it for whatever money he can scrounge from the UFC now.  He has no chance against getting a rematch with Miocic for the time being and it's doubtful he can beat Ngannou.  I guess it would be safe to say that he's just a gate keeper in the division now?

As for Nunes, hmmm...  Make it 2.25 and up and I'll put money on her.
Time has caught up it seems with jds though i'm.not counting him out just yet. If he loses this time then it would be safe to say that its over for him. Hoping for the best for him anyways as i've been a big fan of his from back in his heydays

 
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Ok my picks for this:

Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko: Shevnchenko wins ending Nunes win streak and late unstoppable confidence.

Demetrious Johnson vs. Ray Borg: Johnson wins. You can't crack that big alien skull, too strong. He doesn't have many KO's, but so doesn't have Ray, I think split decision for Johnson.

Dos Santos vs Ngannou: Ngannou is ready to retire Dos Santos. You can ever overlook Dos Santos but his prime is over and this Ngannou guy is slick.

I have no idea about the rest.
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I think this will be Rafael Dos Anjos 2nd fight training out of Evolve MMA gym. RDA used to train at King's MMA under Rafael Cordeiro but left for reasons unknown.

Sarah Moras funded part of her training for this fight at gofundme.com. I think she's the first UFC fighter to do this, although Chris Camozzi asked for bitcoin donations to fund some of his previous training camps.
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Junior is out of UFC 215 because he was caught be USADA for using steroids once again according to MMA news sources. They are now trying to search for a new opponent for Francis Ngannou.

With a lack of clear choices for a replacement, who would like to see Daniel Cormier fight versus Francis Ngannou on October?

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Junior is out of UFC 215 because he was caught be USADA for using steroids once again according to MMA news sources. They are now trying to search for a new opponent for Francis Ngannou.

With a lack of clear choices for a replacement, who would like to see Daniel Cormier fight versus Francis Ngannou on October?

This is very damaging for Junior Dos Santos. I think he should be banned since this is not the first time that he was caught cheating. Brazilians are known for using steroids and too bad JDS was caught again. I don't know if DC will be ready by October though, I think the lost from Jones is still in his mind as of today.

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I think this will be Rafael Dos Anjos 2nd fight training out of Evolve MMA gym. RDA used to train at King's MMA under Rafael Cordeiro but left for reasons unknown.

Sarah Moras funded part of her training for this fight at gofundme.com. I think she's the first UFC fighter to do this, although Chris Camozzi asked for bitcoin donations to fund some of his previous training camps.

Sounds interesting. I haven't heard of it actually. Its this legal though? I mean asking for funds from others? I thought those guys/gals has some backing from other people when they enter the Octagon? I guess I'm wrong then.
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@joshy23. I read an article that Daniel Cormier is already planning his future, and the move to heavyweight is in the picture. He said that it will be easier for him because that is where his natural weight is. He is also mentally strong, I doubt the loss to Jon Jones would have destructive effect on him and his career.

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@joshy23. I read an article that Daniel Cormier is already planning his future, and the move to heavyweight is in the picture. He said that it will be easier for him because that is where his natural weight is. He is also mentally strong, I doubt the loss to Jon Jones would have destructive effect on him and his career.

Yes, he is an Olympian and I don't think the lost to Jones will be a mental barrier for him. He his a total warrior and mentally strong. I'm sure he will be back. Heavyweight was the first division that he really competed in. I was surprise to find him in LHW, although it has something to do with Cain Velasquez being the champion at Heavyweight that time and he doesn't want to fight him as we all know that they are training partners.

I absolutely wanted him to fight in Heavyweight as I'm seeing that division as somewhat pretty weak right now. And he could probably reign their as well.

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@joshy23. I read an article that Daniel Cormier is already planning his future, and the move to heavyweight is in the picture. He said that it will be easier for him because that is where his natural weight is. He is also mentally strong, I doubt the loss to Jon Jones would have destructive effect on him and his career.

There's footage floating around youtube of Daniel Cormier saying "he would never fight at 205 again" after he almost missed weight in his fight with Anthony Johnson in New York. That was the event where some criticized DC for holding onto the towel when he stood on the scale.

DC's last few weight cuts appear to have been extremely difficult for him & that's likely the reason he's thinking of moving up & fighting at heavyweight where he won't have to worry about dieting or a weight cut.

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There's no thread in this section for UFC Fight Night 115 Alexander Volkov vs Stefan Struve which is on september 2nd 2017, about 3 days from today.

If no one makes a thread, is it ok if I do it?   Huh

Also there have been multiple Dana White's Contender Series events on tuesdays. The last event of series 1 aired yesterday. Not certain yet if there will be a 2nd follow up series sometime in the future.
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Schevschenko and RDS are my picks, lets see what the lines on the rest of the fights are later in the week.



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Hey guys, changed the original post to the one with more info.  That hopefully gets you up to speed and may it help you in making your wagers.

And finally we're here again to a proper event in the UFC.  But sometimes I feel like I'm still in a Conor McGregor hangover.  Didn't care much about sports in general after that.  Lol.  Grin  Anyway, here's the UFC Countdown video for the 215.  Enjoy!

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https://degenbet.com/ufc-215-johnson-vs-borg-nunes-vs-schevchenko-betting-picks/

Here is my write up for my RDA and Shev picks.

I might take some bets on the undercard when the odds come out.

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Full odds are out. Numbers come courtesy of bestfightodds.com. (Wonder when we'll have a similar website for crypto books?)



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-Ketlen Vieira is a brazilian wrestling champion & decorated amateur wrestler. She may not be as famous a wrestler as olympic silver medalist Sara McMann but Vieira should be a good enough wrestler to not be completely dominated. Ketlen Vieira fights out of Nova Uniao, the gym Jose Aldo trains in. Her boxing and skills are very good & she's definitely the toughest opponent Sara McMann has faced in a long time.

-This will be Sara McMann's fight fight training out of team alpha male(gym). It will be interesting to see improvements she might have made.

-This will be Gilbert Melendez 2nd fight after testing positive for steroids. Some claim steroids have negative long term effects on cardio.

-Out of the 10 women who were on the Ultimate Fighter, Ronda Rousey vs Miesha Tate, reality show Sarah Moras is one of the 4 women who were on the show that is still fighting.
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