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July 28, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
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I'm just trying to think about this logically

According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)

Everyone needs companionship, even gods...

Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)


The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style
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July 28, 2017, 06:19:34 PM
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Perhaps those who invented the Bible did not have enough imagination to many gods. And maybe they knew some of the problems with religions profess many gods before the rise of Christianity. Christianity Judaism and Islam have common roots so they have one God.

 
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July 28, 2017, 07:21:17 PM
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I'm just trying to think about this logically

According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)

Everyone needs companionship, even gods...

Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)


The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style
Maybe that God created divine entities so he wouldn't feel lone, but not with the power of a God.
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July 28, 2017, 08:34:07 PM
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I'm just trying to think about this logically

According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)

Everyone needs companionship, even gods...

Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)


The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style

Maybe that God created divine entities so he wouldn't feel lone, but not with the power of a God.

You don't think god ever wanted a wife/mate?

Did god kill his wife?  Where is she?
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July 29, 2017, 04:32:17 AM
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I'm just trying to think about this logically

According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)

Everyone needs companionship, even gods...

Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)


The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style
If you're God, and solitude bores you, you make up new people, as suggested by you. What else do you think is going on in this world? It should be pretty obvious.

Just self-trolling on an enormous scale.
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July 29, 2017, 05:44:37 AM
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I believe that there is only one god, like some verses in the Qur'an
1.Say, he is God, the one
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3 He is begetteth not nor was begotten
4.and there is none comparable unto him

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July 29, 2017, 05:59:51 AM
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Yes, the theory is true. I happen to be a Muslim, so according to my belief based on Al_Qur'an, God is one Allah SWT. And Allah is All-Might. Smiley
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July 29, 2017, 11:57:09 AM
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I'm just trying to think about this logically

According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)

Everyone needs companionship, even gods...

Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)


The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style

If you're God, and solitude bores you, you make up new people, as suggested by you. What else do you think is going on in this world? It should be pretty obvious.

Just self-trolling on an enormous scale.

The difference is simple...

Subordinates are not companions...

God might be happy with a dog (humans) for a while, but eventually he is going to want a companion equivalent to his own power... nobody wants to be alone for eternity... and having dogs and slaves don't quite cut the mustard in regards to companionship
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July 29, 2017, 12:11:21 PM
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I'm just trying to think about this logically

According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)

Everyone needs companionship, even gods...

Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)


The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style

Is the Hebrew god also El? Coz from what I've read in some articles, El have a consort called Asherah.

There are some weird passage where Yahweh was addressing El in the Old Testament. It seems to me El used to be the main god of the earlier version of Israelite religion and then Yahweh eventually supplanted him and assimilated his attributes and got rid of the female consort, which makes sense to the Jews since Asherah was also worshiped by other competing groups.

They do have a tradition of adding rules to further differentiate themselves from other Canaanite cultures, for example, not shaving during mourning which was common in the region (practiced as far as Egypt).
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July 29, 2017, 12:12:26 PM
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I'm just trying to think about this logically

According to the bible, the first thing god does after creating Adam is find/create him a spouse/companion (in both Genesis creation stories, though how he creates the woman is different)

Everyone needs companionship, even gods...

Would there be any reason the first god wouldn't create additional gods?
1) Everyone needs companions
2) Everyone likes to show off their creations
3) Solitary confinement is bad (even for gods)


The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style

That would not be the case. The thing is that the creator the only one God have created creatures or angels to serve him. If you remember that some of those angels had an affair with humans and thus gave birth to giants and when those hybrids die they become evil spirits. Those hybrids between angels and humans have developed superhuman powers and they were considered gods and goddesses in the old times. Those gods and goddesses though immortal can be killed and destroyed thus they are not real gods. With the hybrids having immense knowledge of the universe being the sons and daughters of angels they are physically and technologically superior to humans.

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July 29, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
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i strongly believe in most high God
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July 29, 2017, 02:06:08 PM
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The theory that God is one, I have never heard, but I am sure god is only one, and the god who created all this, if more than one, surely every creation will not be perfect.
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If he can create "copies" they will never have his power.
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July 29, 2017, 05:53:47 PM
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Perhaps those who invented the Bible did not have enough imagination to many gods. And maybe they knew some of the problems with religions profess many gods before the rise of Christianity. Christianity Judaism and Islam have common roots so they have one God.

First off, the bible is not invented. It was a series of true events based on what happened in the past. They are written by many people, some said they are 40 who contributed with the bible, and it is related to Jesus. In short the bible was the word of God.

We don't know really how many Gods do we have, but one thing is for sure, there are only one creator of these world the reason why, he is the only one who called God.

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July 29, 2017, 05:57:49 PM
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Monotheism is quite rare, often times, gods at least have some partners that are more or less as powerful as them. It seems that unlike the Persian Ahura Mazda, the Hebrew god used to be part of a pantheon where it is not the chief being. Over time due to political reasons, the religion shifted from polytheism to monotheism.

If he can create "copies" they will never have his power.

In which case he could have simply made Satan disappear since Satan is after all, also just a copy.
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First, God didn't create man or woman. He made them.

Second, Who knows how many things God did between the time He made man and woman. The Bible doesn't have the record of everything. We have the universe for that.

God doesn't necessarily make man and woman for companionship, although He enjoys the companionship. Rather, He made them for His praise and glory.

The fact of the complexity of cause and effect shows that God is one God. If there were two Gods, the complexity of the universe shows that they would have to be acting as one to make the universe. One God.

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July 29, 2017, 09:39:17 PM
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Monotheism is quite rare, often times, gods at least have some partners that are more or less as powerful as them. It seems that unlike the Persian Ahura Mazda, the Hebrew god used to be part of a pantheon where it is not the chief being. Over time due to political reasons, the religion shifted from polytheism to monotheism.

If he can create "copies" they will never have his power.

In which case he could have simply made Satan disappear since Satan is after all, also just a copy.
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I wonder if maybe it had something to do with what the ancients believed in terms of heredity, namely being only masculine in nature: the sperm of a man to be like the "seed" (as in plant seed) sown into the fertile "soil" of a woman's womb, herself only providing nutrition and nurturing and caring but zero essence to the baby in making. This belief has led to the tradition of telling and documenting a tale of virgin birth as well. God needed to be singular and masculine because only he can "create" (pass on his essence). A female (companion) is incapable of passing on anything, unlike the eternal kingly sperm of a godly male. Supremacy is actualized by singularly (contributory factor:100%) being able to pass on your traits.


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I wonder if maybe it had something to do with what the ancients believed in terms of heredity, namely being only masculine in nature: the sperm of a man to be like the "seed" (as in plant seed) sown into the fertile "soil" of a woman's womb, herself only providing nutrition and nurturing and caring but zero essence to the baby in making. This belief has led to the tradition of telling and documenting a tale of virgin birth as well. God needed to be singular and masculine because only he can "create" (pass on his essence). A female (companion) is incapable of passing on anything, unlike the eternal kingly sperm of a godly male. Supremacy is actualized by singularly (contributory factor:100%) being able to pass on your traits.


A female companion very well passes on genes though. And in most myths God created man, thus God would be beyond the concepts of masculinity and femininity or embodies both simultaneously. Breaking the singularity is what would create male and female, or ying and yang from that perspective. If you think about it, without at least an illusion of duality, God wouldn't be able to experience anything other than God.
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I dont believe in the bible because their plot is full of holes that makes me even more confused like the bible said that humans came from adam and eve but science that conducted some research about the matter said that humans came from apes. Seriously how many have died in died all for the sake of this religions, how many countless wars has been in his name? The bible also said that "The world is a dangerous place not because of the people who does evil but the people who does nothing and watch" although not exactly but close enough.

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