On the theory of only one god

[jk_14]

I dont believe in the bible because their plot is full of holes that makes me even more confused like the bible said that humans came from adam and eve but science that conducted some research about the matter said that humans came from apes. Seriously how many have died in died all for the sake of this religions, how many countless wars has been in his name? The bible also said that "The world is a dangerous place not because of the people who does evil but the people who does nothing and watch" although not exactly but close enough.

I am not religious whatsoever. However, there is a lot that can be learned from scriptures such as the Bible regardless, as long as you don't take them literally. If you keep in mind the times during which the scriptures were written and consider them as a collection of allegories, you will find a lot of similarities to Philosophy and Science, both ancient and modern alike.
You can find valuable lessons in just about anything if you pay enough attention. And if you don't pay attention, you won't find valuable lessons even in the most rigorously conducted scientific studies.

In my experience, everybody is trying to express the same thing when it comes to "the nature of existence", however, everybody uses a different set of language to convey their ideas. This is largely due to difference in culture, society, politics, education and general upbringing and life experiences.

There is a literally infinite amount of ways in which you can convey one and the same message. In some of these ways you will not even realize that the same message is being conveyed unless you pay very close attention to the fine nuances and understand the background of the writer/speaker.

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[merchantofzeny]

I think god, or at least the Judeo-Christian one, was not conceived as a singular god (meaning there are no other possible gods) but rather a part of a family of gods. That's why the Judeo-Christian god seem more of an anomaly as it developed into a solo act. Sort of like how a band singer would go solo and linger for years while all the other members sink into oblivion.

Contrary to what another member has posted, Ahura Mazda had a father during the earlier parts of the religion's development (or you can call it a sect if you want to). In this story, Ahura Mazda is the son of Zurvan rather than being a creator god. Curiously, here Ahura Mazda is the twin of Angra Mainyu (sort of like the devil or a darkness principle) making it seem like the Eastern concept of light and darkness being equals and requiring the other to exist (or rather being the opposite sides of the same coin).

Not hard to imagine a similar development happened in Judaism and scholars believe exposure to Zoroastrianism is what pushed it to the path of monotheism.

[degaga15]

God no need to make god again, because if he made then he is still the greatest and great creator, if you think killing all can make you feel so god is impossible, killing all make you forget yourself and can be spelled out no longer human, because humans still have Heart, then man can not become god, why? Because humans only a small part of God's creation on earth, if you think you god because creating something is wrong, because whatever it is brain, thought power, intelligence, skill / ability is only a gift from god.

[Lecsor]

God no need to make god again, because if he made then he is still the greatest and great creator, if you think killing all can make you feel so god is impossible, killing all make you forget yourself and can be spelled out no longer human, because humans still have Heart, then man can not become god, why? Because humans only a small part of God's creation on earth, if you think you god because creating something is wrong, because whatever it is brain, thought power, intelligence, skill / ability is only a gift from god.

Maybe I'm not very good at talking, but I'm very sure that God is One and only different prophets from one God for every people was. Therefore, we have so many religions. But uniquely God is one.

[IadixDev]

The only way a one god theory makes sense is if the one god killed all the other gods, highlander style

This is marduk

He killed all gods and absorbed their qualities into himself. Hence fifty names of marduk.


http://mesopotamia.mrdonn.org/marduk.html

http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/listofdeities/marduk/

http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CS/CSMarduk.html

Similar thing happened in egypt with amon.

At this time each city were patronized as a cult to a particular god, and it's often seen as war between gods = war between différents cities, and the strongest god was the more powerful city.

The power of a god was seen as how much people followed its law.

It's a bit cheating as to say the God that incorporate all others gods become the greater god and rulers of all kindgoms, lesser gods become just a facet or aspect of the greater god.



It's said this story inspired the formalisation of Judaism deuteronomy, as the law to make everyone agree because it incorporate all other laws.

[adamantasaurus]

Well, I think a lot of (If not all) religions have become perverted in a very sad way most people who are religious don't have religious/mystical experiences they are just acting out traditions and believing blindly that what they experience is gods will or what not.

But with that said through my own direct mystical experience I can say for 100% that there is one god/one consciousness (ourselves) and all reality is, is that consciousness entertaining itself through different perspectives (other people/life forms) but essentially it is one thing always has been and always will be. God is you and everything else you are god and everything else reality is a mirror of your own spirit god is not a separate entity it is within yourself.

[Przemax]

Well.... God have created an angels, seraphims and the cupids. All of them have powers comperable to the gods of the mythos. So I do not understand your point here.

But those creatures although powerful are not the absolute. I know that people does not understand that term nowadays. The absolute means that everything is a manifestation of the creative mind. Like your thoughts are a part of you, we and everything else is a part of the one that IS (I am what IM) - in us and not only us. Generaly in everything.

Its a nice concept because the world that you see is not existant as well. What you see is a product of your brain. I don't say that its not what other brains see, especialy human ones. What an animal brain senses, is a completly different world than human, although we have the same plain of coexistance. The animals(most of them) do not enjoy movies, do not sense themselves in the mirror and many other things we think are obvious.

I would say that there should be many things that are obvious to God, and we are completly not aware of them.

Well, I think a lot of (If not all) religions have become perverted

Well.... a religion is a perversion to begin with. It starts with re - which means to redo. And redo could mean to pervert.

Many antropological evidences shows that religions are a product of a twisted minds. But God have nothing to do with religions. To the contrary I would say.

[degaga15]

God no need to make god again, because if he made then he is still the greatest and great creator, if you think killing all can make you feel so god is impossible, killing all make you forget yourself and can be spelled out no longer human, because humans still have Heart, then man can not become god, why? Because humans only a small part of God's creation on earth, if you think you god because creating something is wrong, because whatever it is brain, thought power, intelligence, skill / ability is only a gift from god.

Maybe I'm not very good at talking, but I'm very sure that God is One and only different prophets from one God for every people was. Therefore, we have so many religions. But uniquely God is one.

God is one, but the messenger of the prophet is many, maybe we still have not as much thought about the god, god is not dead, not human, and not a creation of man.

[Sithara007]

Being an atheist who identifies with Hinduism, I would say that there is no god. The entire creation theory is a myth, and it is better to believe in science rather than having a belief in god.

[SushiMonster]

There's only one God but there's so many religion.

[IadixDev]

Well.... a religion is a perversion to begin with. It starts with re - which means to redo. And redo could mean to pervert.

Many antropological evidences shows that religions are a product of a twisted minds. But God have nothing to do with religions. To the contrary I would say.

Religion are still the ones that cover the topic the most

[Przemax]

Well.... a religion is a perversion to begin with. It starts with re - which means to redo. And redo could mean to pervert.

Many antropological evidences shows that religions are a product of a twisted minds. But God have nothing to do with religions. To the contrary I would say.

Religion are still the ones that cover the topic the most

Yeah. Logical conclusion would be - humans are having a twisted minds quite often, and it happens to be - they like it.

In my opinion, the message of God - for example the message of Jesus Christ is not religious per se. Its actualy antireligious. The words of prophets like Buddha or Zaratrusta are antireligious. They take away from the twisted rituals, they refuse to participate in the old ones. They all have that in common. Ofcourse they leave some twisted mind products that are the least dangerous and mainly refuse to worship the multitude of spirits ( The DEVS) like Zaratrusta did, are agianst the sacrifices and are against the creation of new rituals and new twisted mind products like Jesus and prophets.

The only patriarch that was FOR the rituals was a Moses. But I guess its a matter of a context. Izraelites were in love with the completly twisted egiptian mythos, they needed to have a product of twisted mind like an addict, so they had one that was doing some good to them and to their community. I would interpret it that.

and it is better to believe in science rather than having a belief in god.

Many of the things you call "science" are a mythos of worst kinds. Take your scientism and stick it ok?

Quantum physicians admitt it that they only do a imagination experiments and take a load of ideas from hindu mythos. They take a lot from mythos because THEY ARE MYTHOS.

Im all for a science, but if you think science disproves God.... you can not be more wrong about that.

[cigaLeider]

I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one? 

[Nalien]

I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one? 

Actually, it would be more accurate to assert that people back then explained rain and the sun through the metaphors of different gods. Science describes them with different metaphors that are exclusive to the language of science.
At some point in time everything that science asserts today will be regarded in a similar way as the descriptions of ancient cultures are regarded now. It is human nature to constantly make up new ways to perceive the exact same things from a new perspective.

[Przemax]

I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one? 

For example? How does the clouds are created? Do you know that science does not know that? Yeah you might say they are vapour. But a vapour is not a cloud.

Same with the sun. They have no idea how to create a star other than solunomiscence - thru sound. Thats just some hypothesises they have that it might be atoms splitting or atoms fusing.

So you are saying that they replaced the small gods mythos to no gods mythos. Those are still mythos.

[Nalien]

I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one? 

For example? How does the clouds are created? Do you know that science does not know that? Yeah you might say they are vapour. But a vapour is not a cloud.

Same with the sun. They have no idea how to create a star other than solunomiscence - thru sound. Thats just some hypothesises they have that it might be atoms splitting or atoms fusing.

So you are saying that they replaced the small gods mythos to no gods mythos. Those are still mythos.

You are definitely on track when it comes to seeing that science doesn't really know as much as a lot of people seem to believe. However, I hope that you're not one of those who are against science per se. Science is an overwhelmingly great tool for humanity and there's a lot of very interesting stuff that can be learned by familiarizing oneself with it.

[sibisi666]

Science is the only force you can believe actually, because you can see it with your eyes, and touch with your fingers. Today we would be much more advanced society, but we had a huge technological break, and slow downs caused by church and religion...

[Przemax]

I think it's a matter of simplification. We created the gods because we could not explain certain things that science has explained today. Why would we associate the rain or the sun with a different gods if we can all globalize it into one?  

For example? How does the clouds are created? Do you know that science does not know that? Yeah you might say they are vapour. But a vapour is not a cloud.

Same with the sun. They have no idea how to create a star other than solunomiscence - thru sound. Thats just some hypothesises they have that it might be atoms splitting or atoms fusing.

So you are saying that they replaced the small gods mythos to no gods mythos. Those are still mythos.

You are definitely on track when it comes to seeing that science doesn't really know as much as a lot of people seem to believe. However, I hope that you're not one of those who are against science per se. Science is an overwhelmingly great tool for humanity and there's a lot of very interesting stuff that can be learned by familiarizing oneself with it.

No. I love science. You have got to love science to know that there is a lot yet to discover. There is so much to discover still.

People are claiming science not what it is, but what some enemies of the faith are claiming. Like this guy:

Science is the only force you can believe actually, because you can see it with your eyes, and touch with your fingers. Today we would be much more advanced society, but we had a huge technological break, and slow downs caused by church and religion...

If thats what he says was true, 80% what is in the schoolbooks should not be labeled as science. Such a people does not even know how much they contradicts themselves. Its so so sad fact about the state of humanity today.

[IadixDev]

Well.... a religion is a perversion to begin with. It starts with re - which means to redo. And redo could mean to pervert.

Many antropological evidences shows that religions are a product of a twisted minds. But God have nothing to do with religions. To the contrary I would say.

Religion are still the ones that cover the topic the most

Yeah. Logical conclusion would be - humans are having a twisted minds quite often, and it happens to be - they like it.

In my opinion, the message of God - for example the message of Jesus Christ is not religious per se. Its actualy antireligious. The words of prophets like Buddha or Zaratrusta are antireligious. They take away from the twisted rituals, they refuse to participate in the old ones. They all have that in common. Ofcourse they leave some twisted mind products that are the least dangerous and mainly refuse to worship the multitude of spirits ( The DEVS) like Zaratrusta did, are agianst the sacrifices and are against the creation of new rituals and new twisted mind products like Jesus and prophets.

The only patriarch that was FOR the rituals was a Moses. But I guess its a matter of a context. Izraelites were in love with the completly twisted egiptian mythos, they needed to have a product of twisted mind like an addict, so they had one that was doing some good to them and to their community. I would interpret it that.

There is fake gold because there is true gold - rumi 

[irsada]

'God is only one and is the source of everything'
It is not possible he killed another god god.
Clay that creates the sun, sky and earth.
What can man create it all besides the one god.