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May 14, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
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I just attempted to get a withdrawal of my USD from MtGox to Dwolla and got the following in an email:

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MAY 14, 2013  |  01:44PM CDT
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Due to recent court orders by the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland seizing the account of Mutum Sigillum LLC (“Mt. Gox”), Dwolla is immediately no longer legally able to service Mutum Sigillum LLC’s account.

As a result if you have not seen funds arrive in your Dwolla account from this merchant then this will not be occurring with Dwolla. You will want to contact Mutum Sigillum LLC (https://mtgox.com/contact-us) to inquire on how to go about withdrawing these funds.

Sincerely,
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Anyone else seen this? I guess this is the fallout from the Coinlab lawsuit?
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May 14, 2013, 07:11:30 PM
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Scare tactics, they do this all the time.

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May 14, 2013, 07:13:14 PM
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Scare tactics, they do this all the time.

Well apparently it's working....
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May 14, 2013, 07:18:45 PM
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Just got the email too

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As of 12:13 PM on 5/14/2013:

You’re receiving this notice because our systems have indicated that you’ve processed and completed a real-time Dwolla-to-Dwolla payment to Mutum Sigillum LLC (“Mt. Gox”) within the last 24 hours.

Due to recent court orders received from the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland, Dwolla is no longer legally able to service Mutum Sigillum LLC’s account.

This is a courtesy email encouraging you to follow up on any uncompleted orders with Mutum Sigillum LLC as Dwolla is now unable to move money to and from Mutum Sigillum LLC’s Dwolla account.

Dwolla is not party to this matter nor does it have any information or further insight into the situation. We strongly encourages those with questions to contact Mutum Sigillum LLC

Note: Dwolla requires a court order before honoring requests such as seizing funds or revoking access to an account.

On behalf of Dwolla, we apologize for this inconvenience.

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May 14, 2013, 07:21:49 PM
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Just got the email too

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As of 12:13 PM on 5/14/2013:

You’re receiving this notice because our systems have indicated that you’ve processed and completed a real-time Dwolla-to-Dwolla payment to Mutum Sigillum LLC (“Mt. Gox”) within the last 24 hours.

Due to recent court orders received from the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland, Dwolla is no longer legally able to service Mutum Sigillum LLC’s account.

This is a courtesy email encouraging you to follow up on any uncompleted orders with Mutum Sigillum LLC as Dwolla is now unable to move money to and from Mutum Sigillum LLC’s Dwolla account.

Dwolla is not party to this matter nor does it have any information or further insight into the situation. We strongly encourages those with questions to contact Mutum Sigillum LLC

Note: Dwolla requires a court order before honoring requests such as seizing funds or revoking access to an account.

On behalf of Dwolla, we apologize for this inconvenience.

Just got this e-mail too

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May 14, 2013, 07:23:34 PM
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God damnit I just got verified for that too.

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May 14, 2013, 07:26:33 PM
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Just got the email too

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As of 12:13 PM on 5/14/2013:

You’re receiving this notice because our systems have indicated that you’ve processed and completed a real-time Dwolla-to-Dwolla payment to Mutum Sigillum LLC (“Mt. Gox”) within the last 24 hours.

Due to recent court orders received from the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland, Dwolla is no longer legally able to service Mutum Sigillum LLC’s account.

This is a courtesy email encouraging you to follow up on any uncompleted orders with Mutum Sigillum LLC as Dwolla is now unable to move money to and from Mutum Sigillum LLC’s Dwolla account.

Dwolla is not party to this matter nor does it have any information or further insight into the situation. We strongly encourages those with questions to contact Mutum Sigillum LLC

Note: Dwolla requires a court order before honoring requests such as seizing funds or revoking access to an account.

On behalf of Dwolla, we apologize for this inconvenience.

Just got this e-mail too
Ditto.

Guess I might have to look into direct bank transfers for withdrawals in the future.  Any other thoughts for reliable USD withdrawals?
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May 14, 2013, 07:27:49 PM
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This so reminds me of Paxum.

http://bitcoinreport.com/visa-and-mastercard-force-paxum-to-drop-bitcoin/

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May 14, 2013, 07:31:13 PM
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Did you add the "seizing" wording to your email or is everyone else getting a different email?
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May 14, 2013, 07:31:21 PM
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I just attempted to get a withdrawal of my USD from MtGox to Dwolla and got the following in an email:

Dwolla Support
MAY 14, 2013  |  01:44PM CDT
<name removed>,

Due to recent court orders by the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland seizing the account of Mutum Sigillum LLC (“Mt. Gox”), Dwolla is immediately no longer legally able to service Mutum Sigillum LLC’s account.

As a result if you have not seen funds arrive in your Dwolla account from this merchant then this will not be occurring with Dwolla. You will want to contact Mutum Sigillum LLC (https://mtgox.com/contact-us) to inquire on how to go about withdrawing these funds.

Sincerely,
Dwolla Support
www.dwolla.com
www.trydwolla.com (Send someone free money on us to get them started)

Anyone else seen this? I guess this is the fallout from the Coinlab lawsuit?

Why does your email say "seizing the account"; and the presumably identical email quoted by everyone else doesn't say that?

Dankedan: price seems low, time to sell I think...
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May 14, 2013, 07:32:20 PM
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Your headline is totally misleading.  All that it says is that you can't get your money out via Dwolla now.  There is no Mt Gox account in the USA
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May 14, 2013, 07:33:01 PM
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Prices got real interesting after paypal stopped supporting MTGox,  I expect something similar here.

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May 14, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
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Mine doesn't say anything about "seizing".

I have money in limbo too. Isn't this just great.
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May 14, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
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Well to be fair the bank system doesn't exactly like Dwolla either, so it's double whammy.

This will be interesting though.

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May 14, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
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MtGox is outside the jurisdiction of the US government, they can't seize their accounts or anything of theirs at all.  Maybe the email is badly worded

This account has recently been hacked and taken over, I haven't posted anything for about two years.  Whoever has been using it and pretending to be me is a scammer.
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May 14, 2013, 07:35:20 PM
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Your headline is totally misleading.  All that it says is that you can't get your money out via Dwolla now.  There is no Mt Gox account in the USA

So how does it work on their end? Gox must have a Dwolla account. The email indicates they no longer have access to it.
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May 14, 2013, 07:38:01 PM
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It was only a matter of time before the USG started closing the avenues for converting BTC between USD.

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May 14, 2013, 07:39:48 PM
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MtGox is outside the jurisdiction of the US government, they can't seize their accounts or anything of theirs at all.  Maybe the email is badly worded

Or maybe the OP has intentionally altered the email to make it appear worse than it actually is.  While the others who have quoted their emails have done so accurately.

Dankedan: price seems low, time to sell I think...
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May 14, 2013, 07:42:50 PM
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BalkanBoy, with 36 posts, wants to buy coin at 1/2 a price Wink

 

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May 14, 2013, 07:43:37 PM
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MtGox is outside the jurisdiction of the US government, they can't seize their accounts or anything of theirs at all.  Maybe the email is badly worded

It's possible they were waiting for an agreement with the Japanese. At this point we can only speculate... but don't think that governments are isolated from one another, especially when Bitcoin's market cap is small fry compared to any political sweetener.
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