War has started

[QuestionAuthority]

Before you all get your panties in a bunch, this might actually be something like an attempt to crack down on online gambling and not a direct assault on bitcoin - even though the outcome is the same..

Speaking of which:

evoorhees: How do you deal with being an American running a gambling site(satoshiDICE)?

Yeah right? I can't believe I didn't put that together before. satoshiDICE is clearly illegal and what Herodes said could be true. They might not be going after Bitcoin but the illegal gambling funds that are moving through MtGox!

[Theraty]

Interesting tweet.

Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb18m
For bitcoin to make it it needs to be banned by a few governments and critiqued by policy makers. Otherwise it will fade. #Antifragile.

Agree! GTA 2, 3, 4 and 5 wouldn't exist if it weren't for people trying to ban the first one. Maybe we should run a campaign to get bitcoin banned with the ultimately failing off course.

[joesmoe2012]

I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

[joesmoe2012]

I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"

Right but, unfortunately, that does nothing to help satoshiDICE. The new Nevada legal on-line gambling is heavily regulated with checks to verify the age and residency of the gambler. satoshiDICE is operating in a way that allows minors to gamble. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of the gamblers on satoshiDICE are under 21. To the fucked up moral majority in 'merica you may as well be handing a kid a beer. 

[joesmoe2012]

I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"

Right but, unfortunately, that does nothing to help satoshiDICE. The new Nevada legal on-line gambling is heavily regulated with checks to verify the age and residency of the gambler. satoshiDICE is operating in a way that allows minors to gamble. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of the gamblers on satoshiDICE are under 21. To the fucked up moral majority in 'merica you may as well be handing a kid a beer. 

Not to mention the potential for unregulated pornography.

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"

Right but, unfortunately, that does nothing to help satoshiDICE. The new Nevada legal on-line gambling is heavily regulated with checks to verify the age and residency of the gambler. satoshiDICE is operating in a way that allows minors to gamble. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of the gamblers on satoshiDICE are under 21. To the fucked up moral majority in 'merica you may as well be handing a kid a beer. 

Not to mention the potential for unregulated pornography.

Not the "P" word! That word burns my eyes like acid. Wait here a minute while I go get my giant wooden cross and some gasoline. LOL

[Atopos]

Not the "P" word! That word burns my eyes like acid. Wait here a minute while I go get my giant wooden cross and some gasoline. LOL

+1
Bannings: Signs of the times..More to come..people will give in eventually.

[Traktion]

As more people consider the state as 'them' rather than 'us', the less they will support its actions.

Over the last few years I have observed the sentiment shifting. Whether it is because of the global depression, the monetary system, the overreach of successive governments, I don't know. The why doesn't really matter though; it's the conclusion of such sentiment.

When the state becomes the opposition of the people, it cannot last in its existing form. I'm not saying we are close to that point yet, but we're closer than we have been in my lifetime.

[Melbustus]

...I'm not saying we are close to that point yet, but we're closer than we have been in my lifetime.

How old are you?

[BTC Books]

...I'm not saying we are close to that point yet, but we're closer than we have been in my lifetime.

How old are you?

Not old enough.

I could make that statement - and have - but I lived through the sixties...

[solex]

...I'm not saying we are close to that point yet, but we're closer than we have been in my lifetime.

How old are you?

Not old enough.

I could make that statement - and have - but I lived through the sixties...

When you think about it, the problems today don't compare with the '60s and '70s when the Doomsday Clock was always a couple of minutes to midnight.

[Traktion]

...I'm not saying we are close to that point yet, but we're closer than we have been in my lifetime.

How old are you?

34 - Not that old, granted. It feels old enough though!

[BTC Books]

...I'm not saying we are close to that point yet, but we're closer than we have been in my lifetime.

How old are you?

Not old enough.

I could make that statement - and have - but I lived through the sixties...

When you think about it, the problems today don't compare with the '60s and '70s when the Doomsday Clock was always a couple of minutes to midnight.

The Doomsday Clock is irrelevant.  It's just another circus we're made to consume with our bread.  Governments don't control the world any more - and the people who do control it don't really care about nationalism, and other out-dated ideas like that.  Nobody's going to drop atomic weapons on the source of their wealth and power.

[oakpacific]

I am young, but I am very sure that the Hippies didn't pose a threat to the established at all, unlike us.

[joesmoe2012]

I am young, but I am very sure that the Hippies didn't pose a threat to the established at all, unlike us.

Don't underestimate the hippies nor over estimate us.

I think there are many 'hippies' here among us.

[Matthew N. Wright]

I am young, but I am very sure that the Hippies didn't pose a threat to the established at all, unlike us.

Don't underestimate the hippies nor over estimate us.

I think there are many 'hippies' here among us.

Unfortunately, many are like dank and completely useless for anything other than entertainment.

[smoothie]

Statists are coming to our Bitcoins.

Bring it on!

Did you mess up the translation?

"DONT FUCK ON ME"?

"Get your banging asses off of me"

lol

[BTC Books]

I am young, but I am very sure that the Hippies didn't pose a threat to the established at all, unlike us.

* sigh *  That's what people see, but it has no bearing - or very, very little - on what those times were actually about.  It was the most intense political period the US had seen since the Civil War.  We came closer to an actual shooting revolution than you'd believe - after 40-50 years of corporate-owned media pushing all the drugs/sex/rock'n'roll crap that had little to do with what was really going on.  Not that that part wasn't fun...