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June 22, 2017, 09:44:25 AM
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Hi,

I can tell you exactly what happened here if you care to listen.

The smart contract closed the crowd sale early - exactly 22 minutes early - owing to an error on the countdown timer.

It took exactly 10 mins to re-present the contract enabling the last 12 minutes of the crowd sale to continue as normal.

Why did we bother to do this? Because we told people the crowd sale would finish at a set time and we had a duty to deliver on that. if you have taken part in crowd sales before you will know there is always a spike in participation in the last few moments of the sale and if we had not delivered another contract  it is likely some people will have missed out on taking part.

It is good that you carry out due diligence and we always encourage it - we do the same with our clients before we take them on.

 

Thanks for your response.  There are a few things left on the table.

1- Forget you screwed up on the Timer or Contract.  Do you agree that a Smart Contract holds the elements of an agreement between 2 parties?  If so, why is the original contract not being honored?

2 - If I buy a car and sign a contract for $20,000 at 10% interest and then do not like the terms 6 months later.  Do you think it is valid for me to White Out the interest rate and change it to 3%?  Would it stand up in court?

3 - Why the secrecy and lack of transparency?  

hint: if you decide to answer the above questions please think your answer out carefully... Wink

Please can you explain what you mean by 'why is the original contract not being honoured?' -   I am trying to understand what it is that you are unhappy about so I can hopefully shed some light on the situation

The contract that expired is what I am calling the Original Contract.  That contract has the details of the Token Distribution, the sale timeframe etc in it.  Nowhere does it state that additional contracts will be made to lengthen the ICO to accumulate more funds.  The Original Contract is the agreement between Monaco and its Investors.

No one that agreed to the Original Contract Ok'ed the second contract to add more tokens to the distribution or more time to the ICO.  

In short, ALL of the investors of the Original 30 day Contract made an agreement with you that the ICO would end at the time it did in that contract and that ONLY the tokens made in that timeframe.  You have broken that contract.


To put it another way, why can't we reset the original 150 tokens/eth?  I invested the last day and only got 120/eth, I missed the deadline so we should roll it back to the beginning and add the 13 minutes so I can get the extra 30/eth.  That is what you are doing when you reset the clock on the contract.  It is just plain wrong.
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June 24, 2017, 03:41:47 AM
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So the good folks at TokenMarket have stopped all correspondence.

Meanwhile, the great Monaco Token and the leader Kris have missed deadline after deadline.  And when it could not get any worse they announced it would be on 3 fantastic exchanges.  Yobit, Liqui and some other exchange nobody uses.  Well Kris you have out done yourself on getting a decent listing with $25,000,000

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June 28, 2017, 08:10:02 AM
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So the good folks at TokenMarket have stopped all correspondence.

Meanwhile, the great Monaco Token and the leader Kris have missed deadline after deadline.  And when it could not get any worse they announced it would be on 3 fantastic exchanges.  Yobit, Liqui and some other exchange nobody uses.  Well Kris you have out done yourself on getting a decent listing with $25,000,000
anyways, they have no Chance against TenX

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June 28, 2017, 09:00:39 AM
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I'm getting a bad impression of ICO's

I invested in Monaco and Polybius ICO.
Both s*ck because the communication is really bad, missing deadlines, using copyright materials they actually not allowed, mentioning people they work with but those people don't even know it... Both called out as scam but the team dev's not even fighting the accusations....

End conclusion better to NOT participate in ICOs, because only the fund raisers get rich, by millions, not the investors and its very easy to run off with your money!!
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This is my first ICO event, but I was screwed up, did not buy it, what is the situation now?

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June 30, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
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I'm getting a bad impression of ICO's

I invested in Monaco and Polybius ICO.
Both s*ck because the communication is really bad, missing deadlines, using copyright materials they actually not allowed, mentioning people they work with but those people don't even know it... Both called out as scam but the team dev's not even fighting the accusations....

End conclusion better to NOT participate in ICOs, because only the fund raisers get rich, by millions, not the investors and its very easy to run off with your money!!


Nowadays, It's really hard to decide which ICOs are promising and which are the ones that will be able to achieve all the plans and objectives and at the end, reward their investors with x10 to x100 gains.

The best strategy to do is, say, you find a project quite interesting and is backed by a good team. You decided to invest 10 ETH into the project. Best thing to do is invest 50% (5 ETH) in ICO and invest the other 5 ETH when the project hits the exchanges and after evaluating how well the team is performing.

You could be in a better position if you try of out this method. Of course, there are no guarantees that this  will make you rich.

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July 31, 2017, 02:50:31 AM
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I'm getting a bad impression of ICO's

I invested in Monaco and Polybius ICO.
Both s*ck because the communication is really bad, missing deadlines, using copyright materials they actually not allowed, mentioning people they work with but those people don't even know it... Both called out as scam but the team dev's not even fighting the accusations....

End conclusion better to NOT participate in ICOs, because only the fund raisers get rich, by millions, not the investors and its very easy to run off with your money!!


Nowadays, It's really hard to decide which ICOs are promising and which are the ones that will be able to achieve all the plans and objectives and at the end, reward their investors with x10 to x100 gains.

The best strategy to do is, say, you find a project quite interesting and is backed by a good team. You decided to invest 10 ETH into the project. Best thing to do is invest 50% (5 ETH) in ICO and invest the other 5 ETH when the project hits the exchanges and after evaluating how well the team is performing.

You could be in a better position if you try of out this method. Of course, there are no guarantees that this  will make you rich.

Now that i have more experience with ICO's, I can say that I agree 100% with you. 50% During the ICO, if there is profit. Other 50% when it hits the exchanges. You might get it also for a better price, since the weak hands always push the price down at the beginning.
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Whatever is the first contract to be a benchmark.
If uda become the second contract must be mutually beneficial in between both parties.
And nothing is harmful.

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