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September 25, 2017, 02:32:02 PM
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No way to do without transact fee. But I think you can choose the wallet that transaction fee low.

Not true, sir. The only reason you're paying a fee is to pay the miner to confirm your transaction on the blockchain. If you transact off the blockchain there is no confirmation needed and therefore no fee assessed.

Please don't spread mis-information. Thanks.
so far it is also the first time i know about what are you saying. you have gave so important information to fix the mis-
perception on the most people thought.
yeah it's one of many path the miners earn bitcoins. but bitcoin transactions fee should be faster and cheaper a little more

Not sure if you have seen my post, but I have explained how to send BTC in the Blockchain without fee!!!

The OP use-case is:
He has to make lots of micro-transactions to lots of people.
If he uses wallet that allows you to set multi recipients then he can pass all of them at once with just one fee.
If he wants that fee to be cleared, he needs to use pretty old BTC and low in hops. (as far as I understand it you need to use first generated coins, that have been generated years ago in order to fit the requirement for hi priority).

Here are the 3 rules that need to be matched so you will get in block with NO FEE at all! (we do not talk about exchange fees and other sites fees, we talk about blockchain fees):

1. It is smaller than 1,000 bytes.
2. All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
3. Its priority is large enough *

1. The size of the transaction depends on the amount of historical data it needs to follow to genesis (freshly created coin).
2. The outputs need to be at least 0.01 BTC (this probably will not be meth, so the fee will be needed)
3. The priority is counted as: priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age)/size_in_bytes

So if we have transaction that has 2 inputs, one of 12.5 btc with 2016 confirmations (two weeks old mined block), and one of 2 btc with 10 confirmations, and has a size of 500bytes, will have a priority of

(1250000000 * 2016 + 200000000 * 10) / 500 = 5,044,000,000 => this is ok

* - Transactions needed to have a priority above 57,600,000 to avoid the enforced limit (as of client version 0.3.21)

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September 26, 2017, 01:00:28 AM
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transaction without fee?  a transaction from sending currencies and received is impossible that you do not pay, that is the bussiness also of the owner of this bitcoin wallet so that you always have to pay it per transaction.
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September 28, 2017, 06:32:46 AM
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transaction without fee?  a transaction from sending currencies and received is impossible that you do not pay, that is the bussiness also of the owner of this bitcoin wallet so that you always have to pay it per transaction.

Sorry, but this is completely wrong!
"the owner" of any wallet does not receive a penny for any transaction!
This is a misconception. the fee goes to the miners not some place else (exchanges charge you fee for withdraw, but if not mistaken they cover the  transaction fee for you...).
If you are using a wallet that charges you more then the transaction fee, then you should switch to a different wallet Wink

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September 28, 2017, 08:28:17 AM
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When you exchange currency with others, of course you have to pay a small fee. If you do not want to charge, use coinbase. Coinbase supports the same account in the coinbase wallet will not charge if the wallet is not a coinbase will charge  Cheesy
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September 29, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
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You could try to do it and wait forever for nothing will happen..0 fee worked a long time ago. it doesn't now
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September 30, 2017, 01:49:29 AM
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fees are so high these days... Sad Sad Sad

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September 30, 2017, 02:16:38 AM
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Hello, Everyone!
I will send small amounts of BTC to dozens of people and I don't like to pay sending fees.
Is there any way to avoid it?
I tried Xapo but it sucks and become full scam so I really need your help for a good way to send BTC without fees.
Thanks in advance.

used bitcoin wallet that provides a no fee features. i think coins.ph bitcoin wallet is suits to your needs, because even if you send any amount of bitcoin to a dozens of people, by using this wallet its free to send bitcoin, but its only works for coins.ph wallet users only. i suggest this wallets because im using it for almost 4 months to send bitcoin to other coins.ph users with no fee. it is secure and easy to use.

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September 30, 2017, 02:46:32 AM
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Hello, Everyone!
I will send small amounts of BTC to dozens of people and I don't like to pay sending fees.
Is there any way to avoid it?
I tried Xapo but it sucks and become full scam so I really need your help for a good way to send BTC without fees.
Thanks in advance.

nope you can't, because without the fee, your transaction will never confirmed.

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September 30, 2017, 05:25:02 AM
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Hello, Everyone!
I will send small amounts of BTC to dozens of people and I don't like to pay sending fees.
Is there any way to avoid it?
I tried Xapo but it sucks and become full scam so I really need your help for a good way to send BTC without fees.
Thanks in advance.

Every site I know, need some money to precess your transfer ~

You could try to do it and wait forever for nothing will happen..0 fee worked a long time ago. it doesn't now

Yep as I said, we need to pay for every transaction ~


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September 30, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
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Hello, Everyone!
I will send small amounts of BTC to dozens of people and I don't like to pay sending fees.
Is there any way to avoid it?
I tried Xapo but it sucks and become full scam so I really need your help for a good way to send BTC without fees.
Thanks in advance.

If you use a wallet that allows you to customize the Tx fees, you can wait for when fees are lower:

https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

This website will tell you how much are fees at the time. Ideally when the mempool is nearly empty fees are at the lowest.

To save on fees you can also send multiple transactions at once with one transaction fee, some wallets allow you to do that.
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September 30, 2017, 12:34:13 PM
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Hello, Everyone!
I will send small amounts of BTC to dozens of people and I don't like to pay sending fees.
Is there any way to avoid it?
I tried Xapo but it sucks and become full scam so I really need your help for a good way to send BTC without fees.
Thanks in advance.

without fees? it think that's not gonna be happens, because all services whether physical or mental, there are some fee to be paid. there are no free service by now. even bitcoin, before, the transactions fee of this bitcoin is so cheap, you can send huge amount of bitcoin for a cheap fee to paid per transactions, but now its has to increase their transactions fee and that's very annoying, but that's the facts that you have to accept.

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September 30, 2017, 05:39:24 PM
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Without fee? I think it is not possible. When we send a minimum bit then also need fee. But now bitcoin transaction fee is high. If bitcoin transactions become without fee. So we will but happy. But i think not possible.
If you send bitcoin so you must need transaction fee. Without fee transactions will be not successful.

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September 30, 2017, 11:10:58 PM
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everyone keeps saying tx without fee is not possible
there's a possibility a transaction will be confirmed by miner even with 0 BTC fee
ask this guy Cool and few others that know what they're doing
https://blockchain.info/tx/7951f7981546d3aecd98bb1951d61541f93ea83f3294a1e99bf593c0567fce45
14.8KB tx size with 0 fee, probably because the amount transacted so big or owned by the miner itself
I think what Wall-ET said might still work,
we need someone with technical expert and updated consensus rules here

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October 01, 2017, 12:03:52 AM
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everyone keeps saying tx without fee is not possible
there's a possibility a transaction will be confirmed by miner even with 0 BTC fee
ask this guy Cool and few others that know what they're doing
https://blockchain.info/tx/7951f7981546d3aecd98bb1951d61541f93ea83f3294a1e99bf593c0567fce45
14.8KB tx size with 0 fee, probably because the amount transacted so big or owned by the miner itself
I think what Wall-ET said might still work,
we need someone with technical expert and updated consensus rules here

325+BTCs without fees? That's awesome! Did he hacked the blockchain or something?  Grin Hope we can do transaction with less fees, tx fees are over the roof nowadays.  Undecided

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October 01, 2017, 02:12:49 AM
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send from and to the same wallet provider just like coinbase to coinbase to avoid fees. i know how frustrating it is to earn small just to pay for the transfer fees Roll Eyes
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Simple! Give someone a full access to your private key Wink
(just kidding, never share it)

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October 01, 2017, 06:16:31 PM
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When you exchange currency with others, of course you have to pay a small fee. If you do not want to charge, use coinbase. Coinbase supports the same account in the coinbase wallet will not charge if the wallet is not a coinbase will charge  Cheesy
Heard about it and searched lot of information about this side. I should definitely try it in future.

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October 11, 2017, 01:25:24 PM
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everyone keeps saying tx without fee is not possible
there's a possibility a transaction will be confirmed by miner even with 0 BTC fee
ask this guy Cool and few others that know what they're doing
https://blockchain.info/tx/7951f7981546d3aecd98bb1951d61541f93ea83f3294a1e99bf593c0567fce45
14.8KB tx size with 0 fee, probably because the amount transacted so big or owned by the miner itself
I think what Wall-ET said might still work,
we need someone with technical expert and updated consensus rules here

325+BTCs without fees? That's awesome! Did he hacked the blockchain or something?  Grin Hope we can do transaction with less fees, tx fees are over the roof nowadays.  Undecided


Just read one of my last posts I have explained in detail how this transaction is possible!
It is possible only if there are less transactions then the space for the next block (it is not all the time, but from time to time).
So you could prepare your transactions and send them when this opportunity opens.

But I see people talk without reading any post in here.
Talking about how it is not possible and talking about services provided by third party, when the OP asked for a wallet, not service provider, that can do this.
The "fee" for the miners  is the 0 transaction and it will be present up until 2170, so you should not worries this reward for the miners will end soon...

So it has been paid for already. Also want to note if you use service for BitCoin - you DO NOT OWN any coins... So that is BIG risk to take.

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October 12, 2017, 12:55:32 AM
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When you exchange currency with others, of course you have to pay a small fee. If you do not want to charge, use coinbase. Coinbase supports the same account in the coinbase wallet will not charge if the wallet is not a coinbase will charge  Cheesy

So true but sending to other wallet not in the same exchange is another story. There is always a fee as this is a fee to the miners. This miners fee  are needed in order to process your transaction.

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there is always a fee to every transactions . sad but true.

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