VIACOIN ($VIA) is clearly UNDERVALUED

[TMAN]

I am more interested in the LN update..

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[Koontas]

Selling this for a double at 80k in the next alt moon season. Let's hope that the new crypto mcap ath will drive much public fomo.

[Sampsiceramus]

Directly from Twitter (@Viacoin):

Viacoin Core 0.13.3.7 Released!

Improved noticeable sync time. Syncs faster than ever before.

https://viacoin.org/#Download

$VIA

[Bowtiesarecool]

Directly from Twitter (@Viacoin):

Viacoin Core 0.13.3.7 Released!

Improved noticeable sync time. Syncs faster than ever before.

https://viacoin.org/#Download

$VIA

I'm heading straight to the back with this

[currypto]

"syncs faster than ever before"

You know why right? Again, such a trivial change. 6 characters difference: https://github.com/viacoin/viacoin/commit/7325a43554bae8e5a103ec7af4402360c4025fc1

He multiplied 2 terms by 32, increasing the bandwidth.

You're impressed by that?

This is exactly why Via is going to not make it in the long term. The "development" is just adjusting whatever to make it seem like shit is happening.

Also, that article if anyone is interested in actual facts instead of hype: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070354.msg20677488#msg20677488

[Script]

Recently bought a small bag of viacoin, already in the green.

Active development, steady adoption, potential is there, hodling.

[Sampsiceramus]

"syncs faster than ever before"

You know why right? Again, such a trivial change. 6 characters difference: https://github.com/viacoin/viacoin/commit/7325a43554bae8e5a103ec7af4402360c4025fc1

He multiplied 2 terms by 32, increasing the bandwidth.

You're impressed by that?

This is exactly why Via is going to not make it in the long term. The "development" is just adjusting whatever to make it seem like shit is happening.

Also, that article if anyone is interested in actual facts instead of hype: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070354.msg20677488#msg20677488

Man, you have to have nightmares with Romano 

If you don't like Romano or the coin is ok, respectable, but if you are going to say bad things at least they have to be true.

[romanornr]

"syncs faster than ever before"

You know why right? Again, such a trivial change. 6 characters difference: https://github.com/viacoin/viacoin/commit/7325a43554bae8e5a103ec7af4402360c4025fc1

He multiplied 2 terms by 32, increasing the bandwidth.

You're impressed by that?

This is exactly why Via is going to not make it in the long term. The "development" is just adjusting whatever to make it seem like shit is happening.

Also, that article if anyone is interested in actual facts instead of hype: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070354.msg20677488#msg20677488

You picked 1 commit out the few.
Can you analyze them all at least and not making it unfair with picking the smallest commit ? thanks.

[romanornr]

"syncs faster than ever before"

You know why right? Again, such a trivial change. 6 characters difference: https://github.com/viacoin/viacoin/commit/7325a43554bae8e5a103ec7af4402360c4025fc1

He multiplied 2 terms by 32, increasing the bandwidth.

You're impressed by that?

This is exactly why Via is going to not make it in the long term. The "development" is just adjusting whatever to make it seem like shit is happening.

Also, that article if anyone is interested in actual facts instead of hype: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070354.msg20677488#msg20677488

Man, you have to have nightmares with Romano  

If you don't like Romano or the coin is ok, respectable, but if you are going to say bad things at least they have to be true.

If he only knew me  
I'm pretty funny at least right ?

And yes Viacoin is based on Bitcoin Core. Just like Dash, Litecoin, Doge & other coins.
Well even Zcash is based on Bitcoin Core but 0.11 if I'm right.

It isn't a secret or something.
Based on Bitcoin gives us a good survival rate.

But I can understand that you don't like it.

However I don't have a 20 million dollar ICO coin or something that has a premine

Viacoin code is opensource, I just do it as a volunteer.
If you don't like the code, you can submit your own for review.

[wheelz1200]

Read the article, seems like a lazy article if you ask me.  Did you reach out to anyone you mention in your article? Mention otoh support.  Couldve asked him why, instead just offers an assumption.  Mentions romano...just some more assumptions.  Talks about the 1 month delay in segwit, didnt ask why there was a delay which wouldve explained it....overall just a lazy assumption based rambling....and yeah cherry picking commits, moving along.

[currypto]

Ah! Great, now we can get somewhere. Hey Romano!

Lets get to business.

I have looked at those commits.

1. nMinimum chainwork update doesn't have to do with sync speed.
2. Fix headers amplification disables a sync check. It is very minimal. Why didn't you squash these commits?
3. IBD change is the MOST significant. That is why I chose it.

I don't hate Romano. It's nothing against him...I even say in the article is a smart person. Nothing bad at all. I am just pointing out Via is nothing crazy. And he agrees. It is just like Litecoin, Dash, Doge, etc. Do you guys see me saying anything great about those either? No!

If you don't like Romano or the coin is ok, respectable, but if you are going to say bad things at least they have to be true.

Uh, they are true? Do you see Romano saying otherwise?...

 Did you reach out to anyone you mention in your article?

Good point, I didn't. I did not reach out to Otoh (why would I? He would just say he believes in the coin). I did not reach out to Romano (why would I? What did I even "assume" here?). I should have mentioned why it was delayed - the pool owner was busy. And I've explained the "cherry picking commits". It was a significant commit that is actually in Romano's favor. I could've picked one that was far less.

Now we are having a good discussion, lets keep it up.

[wheelz1200]

Meh i just had a quick good laugh that you have "fact based cryptocurrency researcher" as part of your signature and the whole article was based on assumptions and opinions. Just funny to me how ironic it was....

[currypto]

Meh i just had a quick good laugh that you have "fact based cryptocurrency researcher" as part of your signature and the whole article was based on assumptions and opinions. Just funny to me how ironic it was....

Suddenly because my thoughts on Otoh are an opinion, the entire article is an assumption?...

Nice.

I understand you are only protecting yourself. It's not a problem.

I want to mention too I even put in a good word for Viacoin (does Viacoin have any use?). How come no one talks about that?

[wheelz1200]

Meh i just had a quick good laugh that you have "fact based cryptocurrency researcher" as part of your signature and the whole article was based on assumptions and opinions. Just funny to me how ironic it was....

Suddenly because my thoughts on Otoh are an opinion, the entire article is an assumption?...

Nice.

I understand you are only protecting yourself. It's not a problem.

I want to mention too I even put in a good word for Viacoin (does Viacoin have any use?). How come no one talks about that?

No because you want people to read your article and believe it but you didnt attempt to even reach the main developer for comment for you know.... "fact based type research".  Why would your opinion (because thats what it is) be higher than anyone else's at this point.  And protecting myself...um for what....nope just pointing out the facts just like you.

[currypto]

Meh i just had a quick good laugh that you have "fact based cryptocurrency researcher" as part of your signature and the whole article was based on assumptions and opinions. Just funny to me how ironic it was....

Suddenly because my thoughts on Otoh are an opinion, the entire article is an assumption?...

Nice.

I understand you are only protecting yourself. It's not a problem.

I want to mention too I even put in a good word for Viacoin (does Viacoin have any use?). How come no one talks about that?

No because you want people to read your article and believe it but you didnt attempt to even reach the main developer for comment for you know.... "fact based type research".  Why would your opinion (because thats what it is) be higher than anyone else's at this point.  And protecting myself...um for what....nope just pointing out the facts just like you.

Do you not understand that reaching out to the developer does not change what they've written (actually in the case of git, you can modify history, so reaching out the developer could potentially prompt them to change anything - of course I don't expect this to actually happen, but I take precaution (screenshots))?

Why are you persistent on this?

What other facts would they contribute?

Yes it is a fact I didn't reach out to Romano, lets keep repeating this because surely it disregards everything else.

[jhysum]

Meh i just had a quick good laugh that you have "fact based cryptocurrency researcher" as part of your signature and the whole article was based on assumptions and opinions. Just funny to me how ironic it was....

Suddenly because my thoughts on Otoh are an opinion, the entire article is an assumption?...

Nice.

I understand you are only protecting yourself. It's not a problem.

I want to mention too I even put in a good word for Viacoin (does Viacoin have any use?). How come no one talks about that?

To be fair, I see and understand a lot of your arguments but they aren't convincing enough to label viacoin as a pump and dump scheme (at least by intention). Development might be a lot of implementing other people's protocol and algorithms but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. It depends on if you believe that there should only be btc and litecoin/dash/via shouldn't exist at all as an alternative to the btc. I don't think this is a winner take all market, and I think there is a lot of merit to certain industries and business to have a slightly adjusted btc that could be easier to conform to their business needs later.

I think keeping it close to Bitcoin core gives it a lot of validity in terms of security and btc has shown viability as a currency. I also think that being able to implement certain protocols without having a community argue about it and threatening with forks is also a plus. At this price point, I think it's just a bet on how fast it can implement all the latest crypto standard(segwit, which it has now, lightning network, atomic swap, etc) and then after those, it's seeing how it'll try to differentiate itself. I don't think just anyone could fork btc now, add segwit, lightning network, ledger support just at will. I also don't think it's easy to get into polo, bittrex and hopefully into some mobile wallet like coinomi by making your own fork. thus I see a lot of merit in a relatively low market cap coin that is as secure as btc and flexible enough to adapt to future potential opportunities. At this point it's all speculation anyways, I rather via then say an oversold ICO like the 150 mill tezos imo.

I've diversified myself with coins at each stage of the market cap and via is at least stable, active, active community and so far hasn't had any real pump and dump trends like parkbyte(consistently seeing it + 60%, - 40%).

Maybe I've been lucky and so far got good returns from via and it might not keep going, but that could be said the same about most coins. I could also have gotten more gains with other coins, but hindsight is 20/20.

* on a side note, I agree with having just 1 main mining pool is bad and we're too dependant on f2pool.
** Also otoh seems cool but following the rich doesn't always get you richer.

[wheelz1200]

Meh i just had a quick good laugh that you have "fact based cryptocurrency researcher" as part of your signature and the whole article was based on assumptions and opinions. Just funny to me how ironic it was....

Suddenly because my thoughts on Otoh are an opinion, the entire article is an assumption?...

Nice.

I understand you are only protecting yourself. It's not a problem.

I want to mention too I even put in a good word for Viacoin (does Viacoin have any use?). How come no one talks about that?

No because you want people to read your article and believe it but you didnt attempt to even reach the main developer for comment for you know.... "fact based type research".  Why would your opinion (because thats what it is) be higher than anyone else's at this point.  And protecting myself...um for what....nope just pointing out the facts just like you.

Do you not understand that reaching out to the developer does not change what they've written (actually in the case of git, you can modify history, so reaching out the developer could potentially prompt them to change anything - of course I don't expect this to actually happen, but I take precaution (screenshots))?

Why are you persistent on this?

What other facts would they contribute?

Yes it is a fact I didn't reach out to Romano, lets keep repeating this because surely it disregards everything else.

No its just another dumb, opinion related piece, in a sea of a zillion.  Dont take offense it is what it is.

[currypto]

To be fair, I see and understand a lot of your arguments but they aren't convincing enough to label viacoin as a pump and dump scheme (at least by intention).

I even wrote that Viacoin started out a legit project but has turned into such a coin, just out of its evolution.

I totally agree with everything you have said.

[currypto]

No its just another dumb, opinion related piece, in a sea of a zillion.  Dont take offense it is what it is.

*sigh* Ok Mr.Legendary Wheelz1200. I will agree just so we can move on. You have taught me one valuable thing for next time: reach out to every person I mention. Thank you for that.

[jhysum]

To be fair, I see and understand a lot of your arguments but they aren't convincing enough to label viacoin as a pump and dump scheme (at least by intention).

I even wrote that Viacoin started out a legit project but has turned into such a coin, just out of its evolution.

I totally agree with everything you have said.

I think that it was valuable that someone did do a code audit on how far viacoin has diverged from bitcoin and the pros and cons of the changes. At least this sticks to the principle of investing in the tech you know and believe in.

I definitely think that being a 1 man dev team here with kinda lacking(bad but in this case good) marketing, this coin is not positioning itself to be a pump and dump coin still.

The work romano has done also can't be said to be trivial since not just any dev can jump into a project like this and be able to segwit it on their own and get other protocols working.

The harder question is how much this type of work is valued at and is any of the crypto currencies out there really worth any of the market cap that they have. This is almost all speculation at this point still and there is no right and wrong here.

I really do think that any community (especially crypto) these days should at least be open for people with strong opinions (especially willingness to be wrong) to come in and say their opinions and ask some questions. I love the excitement and love for viacoin but being overly defensible and sensitive to negative opinion would also hurt the coin's image.