Looking for 3-4 small investors

[tomos81]

Hi,

I am looking for 3-4 people (for the beginning) , that can spare some satoshis... between 1.000.000 and 3.000.000
I found a pretty safe way how to make 5-15% within 10-14 days.

yes, now lots of readers thinks, this is ponzi, or gambling or something...  it is NOT!!!
I just found something that works (i will not share exactly what - because you can copy my know-how and use it yourself).

My offer:

PM me / comment here, if you interested in investment.

- i don't know when exactly i will pay you back, but i want to give you back at least 110% of your deposit. But it will be within 2 weeks, i promise. I will keep the rest of the profit (if the profit will be bigger, you will get +50% of it)
- what is guarantee i will not scam you?  - my reputation, plus i don't want to get red trust here on the bitcointalk
- why i am not doing it myself? - i don't have enough BTC to start

If it will work, i will give chance for more users to invest, but for the beginning i accept only 3-4 investments (will make and link google spreadsheet here , where will be progress of investment, that you will be able to track it)

I will repeat myself, but i don't plan to gamble your money, also i will NOT join some scammy ponzi scheme or pyramid.
It's simple: try to trust me, however it's hard nowadays.

[1715471995]

1715471995

[player514]

Hi,

I am looking for 3-4 people (for the beginning) , that can spare some satoshis... between 1.000.000 and 3.000.000
I found a pretty safe way how to make 5-15% within 10-14 days.

yes, now lots of readers thinks, this is ponzi, or gambling or something...  it is NOT!!!
I just found something that works (i will not share exactly what - because you can copy my know-how and use it yourself).

My offer:

PM me / comment here, if you interested in investment.

- i don't know when exactly i will pay you back, but i want to give you back at least 110% of your deposit. But it will be within 2 weeks, i promise. I will keep the rest of the profit (if the profit will be bigger, you will get +50% of it)
- what is guarantee i will not scam you?  - my reputation, plus i don't want to get red trust here on the bitcointalk
- why i am not doing it myself? - i don't have enough BTC to start

If it will work, i will give chance for more users to invest, but for the beginning i accept only 3-4 investments (will make and link google spreadsheet here , where will be progress of investment, that you will be able to track it)

I will repeat myself, but i don't plan to gamble your money, also i will NOT join some scammy ponzi scheme or pyramid.
It's simple: try to trust me, however it's hard nowadays.

You might be better off posting this in the lending section. Also, I've noticed in your trust section of your profile, you've got more negative reputation than positives, with a few people accusing you of stealing btc from them. I know this is untrusted feedback, but I think you should be using some kind of escrow/collateral for this deal.

[tomos81]

Hi,

I am looking for 3-4 people (for the beginning) , that can spare some satoshis... between 1.000.000 and 3.000.000
I found a pretty safe way how to make 5-15% within 10-14 days.

yes, now lots of readers thinks, this is ponzi, or gambling or something...  it is NOT!!!
I just found something that works (i will not share exactly what - because you can copy my know-how and use it yourself).

My offer:

PM me / comment here, if you interested in investment.

- i don't know when exactly i will pay you back, but i want to give you back at least 110% of your deposit. But it will be within 2 weeks, i promise. I will keep the rest of the profit (if the profit will be bigger, you will get +50% of it)
- what is guarantee i will not scam you?  - my reputation, plus i don't want to get red trust here on the bitcointalk
- why i am not doing it myself? - i don't have enough BTC to start

If it will work, i will give chance for more users to invest, but for the beginning i accept only 3-4 investments (will make and link google spreadsheet here , where will be progress of investment, that you will be able to track it)

I will repeat myself, but i don't plan to gamble your money, also i will NOT join some scammy ponzi scheme or pyramid.
It's simple: try to trust me, however it's hard nowadays.

You might be better off posting this in the lending section. Also, I've noticed in your trust section of your profile, you've got more negative reputation than positives, with a few people accusing you of stealing btc from them. I know this is untrusted feedback, but I think you should be using some kind of escrow/collateral for this deal.

most of my negative feedback is from scammers.. one negative feedback is a lie, but i don't want to discuss about that..  Every my project i started i finished with heads up and paid every single debt..
I am not pushing nobody to join me, i just offering an opportunity that i found

[vennali]

Hi,

I am looking for 3-4 people (for the beginning) , that can spare some satoshis... between 1.000.000 and 3.000.000
I found a pretty safe way how to make 5-15% within 10-14 days.

yes, now lots of readers thinks, this is ponzi, or gambling or something...  it is NOT!!!
I just found something that works (i will not share exactly what - because you can copy my know-how and use it yourself).

My offer:

PM me / comment here, if you interested in investment.

- i don't know when exactly i will pay you back, but i want to give you back at least 110% of your deposit. But it will be within 2 weeks, i promise. I will keep the rest of the profit (if the profit will be bigger, you will get +50% of it)
- what is guarantee i will not scam you?  - my reputation, plus i don't want to get red trust here on the bitcointalk
- why i am not doing it myself? - i don't have enough BTC to start

If it will work, i will give chance for more users to invest, but for the beginning i accept only 3-4 investments (will make and link google spreadsheet here , where will be progress of investment, that you will be able to track it)

I will repeat myself, but i don't plan to gamble your money, also i will NOT join some scammy ponzi scheme or pyramid.
It's simple: try to trust me, however it's hard nowadays.

You might be better off posting this in the lending section. Also, I've noticed in your trust section of your profile, you've got more negative reputation than positives, with a few people accusing you of stealing btc from them. I know this is untrusted feedback, but I think you should be using some kind of escrow/collateral for this deal.

most of my negative feedback is from scammers.. one negative feedback is a lie, but i don't want to discuss about that..  Every my project i started i finished with heads up and paid every single debt..
I am not pushing nobody to join me, i just offering an opportunity that i found

I think player41 is right. If you are so sure and guarantee that you will be making 15% within 10-15 days. You could give it a shot in the lending section and give some collateral to them in return. Once you get the returns+ profit you can give a % of it to the one who lend it to you.

[tomos81]

Hi,

I am looking for 3-4 people (for the beginning) , that can spare some satoshis... between 1.000.000 and 3.000.000
I found a pretty safe way how to make 5-15% within 10-14 days.

yes, now lots of readers thinks, this is ponzi, or gambling or something...  it is NOT!!!
I just found something that works (i will not share exactly what - because you can copy my know-how and use it yourself).

My offer:

PM me / comment here, if you interested in investment.

- i don't know when exactly i will pay you back, but i want to give you back at least 110% of your deposit. But it will be within 2 weeks, i promise. I will keep the rest of the profit (if the profit will be bigger, you will get +50% of it)
- what is guarantee i will not scam you?  - my reputation, plus i don't want to get red trust here on the bitcointalk
- why i am not doing it myself? - i don't have enough BTC to start

If it will work, i will give chance for more users to invest, but for the beginning i accept only 3-4 investments (will make and link google spreadsheet here , where will be progress of investment, that you will be able to track it)

I will repeat myself, but i don't plan to gamble your money, also i will NOT join some scammy ponzi scheme or pyramid.
It's simple: try to trust me, however it's hard nowadays.

You might be better off posting this in the lending section. Also, I've noticed in your trust section of your profile, you've got more negative reputation than positives, with a few people accusing you of stealing btc from them. I know this is untrusted feedback, but I think you should be using some kind of escrow/collateral for this deal.

most of my negative feedback is from scammers.. one negative feedback is a lie, but i don't want to discuss about that..  Every my project i started i finished with heads up and paid every single debt..
I am not pushing nobody to join me, i just offering an opportunity that i found

I think player41 is right. If you are so sure and guarantee that you will be making 15% within 10-15 days. You could give it a shot in the lending section and give some collateral to them in return. Once you get the returns+ profit you can give a % of it to the one who lend it to you.

I already moved my thread from marketplace to Lending...
Example:

based on my calculation i will make 10-15% profit / 10-12 days. It could be little less, but not negative profit (loss)
it can happen it will be more than 10% so i will give 50% of profit to investor.  with 130% profit - 115% , 150% profit 125% etc...

i have no collateral to offer i just have plan, nothing else

[ThatRandom8543]

You're right. Its hard to trust because all it takes is for a small bit of trust that would go down the drain either due to trust farming, or someone taking coins and running off. Your reputation means nothing to me especially since there isnt any real trust on your account (eg from a DT or someone with green trust themselves). What I would suggest that you do is summarize this strategy because that is the only way youre gonna possibly get anywhere. You dont go to a bank or an investor telling them that you have this amazing idea but you dont tell them what it is. That will get you thrown under the bus. 9/10, people probably already heard about this strategy, so hiding it wont help your case. 

If you do not have collateral and you cant state what youre using this loan for, I dont know what else to say beside good luck.

[tomos81]

You're right. Its hard to trust because all it takes is for a small bit of trust that would go down the drain either due to trust farming, or someone taking coins and running off. Your reputation means nothing to me especially since there isnt any real trust on your account (eg from a DT or someone with green trust themselves). What I would suggest that you do is summarize this strategy because that is the only way youre gonna possibly get anywhere. You dont go to a bank or an investor telling them that you have this amazing idea but you dont tell them what it is. That will get you thrown under the bus. 9/10, people probably already heard about this strategy, so hiding it wont help your case. 

If you do not have collateral and you cant state what youre using this loan for, I dont know what else to say beside good luck.

if i will tell what i am doing , nobody will invest but do it for themselves.....

[yogg]

OP just PMed me asking to join his "project".
I see no mention of collateral anywhere.

Please tomos81 would you care to explain why you have negative trust ratings ?
Why should we trust you ?

As far as I have read through the posts, your "offer" smells like Ponzi...

[tomos81]

OP just PMed me asking to join his "project".
I see no mention of collateral anywhere.

Please tomos81 would you care to explain why you have negative trust ratings ?
Why should we trust you ?

As far as I have read through the posts, your "offer" smells like Ponzi...

ok explanation of negative trust:

dalecooper   2017-04-06   0.00000000      He did not pay his users. Be aware of him!
 i ran a project that was bought by mexicantarget - it's name was VirtualPub   - this btc game still running and it's more and more profitable..  I got payment problems that was solved by new owner.. So this guy got paid!

adsbit   2016-12-06   5.00000000      Stole 5 btc from me
This scammer is also known as vodalpeja and he ran a series of fake scammy ad networks, i gave him a red trust, and he gave me it back with no reason. It's just a troller guy.. Ask mexicantarget if you don't believe me..  I can put some references here, but i am at work, so it can take a while

Joel_Jantsen   2016-10-16   0.00000000   Reference   User is trying to scam by asking members to invest in his strategy which he doesn't want to share.Of course without using an escrow.Please don't send even a single satoshi to him unless you're looking to get scammed.
I posted in 2016 in the lending section one investment opportunity, that was filled and the lender was paid back with 120%  0.06BTC -> 0.072 BTC ...  If the guy will accept, i will update here his nick..  he is a hero member and can approve what i am commenting here..



collateral = my reputation.. i have nothing else unless you can accept a domain with ssl , still 10 months prepaid, or my BCT account..
my offer is not a ponzi, i mentioned it 2 times.. I just have my know-how how to get some profit without gambling/pyramind/ponzi

also people asked, to describe what  i am planning with your investment... I mentioned at least twice, it's my know-how and don't want to share it, because everybody will do that (because it's easy/simple)


I dont understand why people "investing" hundreds of bitcoins to ponzi scheme and have problems to spare 1M satoshis to real guy.. i can give you scan of my ID card as collateral too.. have no problem with that

[xypos]

Maybe disclose some more information as to how are you going to make this sort of profit, consistently?

Small profits do exist and 5-15% is doable in the short term. But never in the long run and with bigger amounts, otherwise banks wouldn't be offering loans with an interest rate of 4% or less would they?

Just by saying i have this method doesn't help. Nor does it help by just saying it's not a ponzi or gambling. That's what every single ponzi owner and gambler says when they ask for money, dont you think? Provide proof.

Even though you're a senior member i don't think your reputation is worth .1 BTC(close to $300) which is essentially what you're asking here. Why not get a cash advance or a personal loan if you're so sure of it succeeding? You'll probably get better interest as well tbh.

[tomos81]

Maybe disclose some more information as to how are you going to make this sort of profit, consistently?

Small profits do exist and 5-15% is doable in the short term. But never in the long run and with bigger amounts, otherwise banks wouldn't be offering loans with an interest rate of 4% or less would they?

Just by saying i have this method doesn't help. Nor does it help by just saying it's not a ponzi or gambling. That's what every single ponzi owner and gambler says when they ask for money, dont you think? Provide proof.

Even though you're a senior member i don't think your reputation is worth .1 BTC(close to $300) which is essentially what you're asking here. Why not get a cash advance or a personal loan if you're so sure of it succeeding? You'll probably get better interest as well tbh.

i am asking for 0.01BTC = 27$
i am repeating myself but will keep my know-how to myself, i explained above, why..

before commenting this thread , please read, i will not repeat myself non stop.
Also i realised, nobody wants to invest here, everybody just commenting how untrusty i am and my offer smells... Stop doing that, you can put a red trust when investor will not get paid.. but for this time stop suspecting me.. i feel very uncomfortable for that

[ThatRandom8543]

OP just PMed me asking to join his "project".
I see no mention of collateral anywhere.

Please tomos81 would you care to explain why you have negative trust ratings ?
Why should we trust you ?

As far as I have read through the posts, your "offer" smells like Ponzi...

ok explanation of negative trust:

dalecooper   2017-04-06   0.00000000      He did not pay his users. Be aware of him!
 i ran a project that was bought by mexicantarget - it's name was VirtualPub   - this btc game still running and it's more and more profitable..  I got payment problems that was solved by new owner.. So this guy got paid!

adsbit   2016-12-06   5.00000000      Stole 5 btc from me
This scammer is also known as vodalpeja and he ran a series of fake scammy ad networks, i gave him a red trust, and he gave me it back with no reason. It's just a troller guy.. Ask mexicantarget if you don't believe me..  I can put some references here, but i am at work, so it can take a while

Joel_Jantsen   2016-10-16   0.00000000   Reference   User is trying to scam by asking members to invest in his strategy which he doesn't want to share.Of course without using an escrow.Please don't send even a single satoshi to him unless you're looking to get scammed.
I posted in 2016 in the lending section one investment opportunity, that was filled and the lender was paid back with 120%  0.06BTC -> 0.072 BTC ...  If the guy will accept, i will update here his nick..  he is a hero member and can approve what i am commenting here..


collateral = my reputation.. i have nothing else unless you can accept a domain with ssl , still 10 months prepaid, or my BCT account..
my offer is not a ponzi, i mentioned it 2 times.. I just have my know-how how to get some profit without gambling/pyramind/ponzi

also people asked, to describe what  i am planning with your investment... I mentioned at least twice, it's my know-how and don't want to share it, because everybody will do that (because it's easy/simple)


I dont understand why people "investing" hundreds of bitcoins to ponzi scheme and have problems to spare 1M satoshis to real guy.. i can give you scan of my ID card as collateral too.. have no problem with that

The main one that Im more focus on is "Joel_Jastsen." Not based on his rank here on the forum, but because what he states is pretty much what is being mention here. You do not want to disclose this method because you believe people would do it for themselves, however how do you know youre the only one doing this method? Is it something special or unique of this method that no one knows about? Also, the person who gave you a loan was never disclosed. Could you provide his forum name or a link to the profile? Couldnt you ask for one from him again?

Collateral: Your domain is likely not worth it especially since we cannot sell the domain to get what we would invest. Same with your bct account.

Reputation takes time. Anyone can say they have reputation, but almost every person with real reputation would explain what they are doing with our coins, would be trusted by many members here. Then you have those who seek to trust farm, in attempt to one day try to score big. Easy to spot if you look at patterns. If you really believe in this method, why come here exactly? Why not go to a bank, take a huge loan, and have a bigger profit? For all we know, it could be a ponzi, even if you say its not. Sure, what youre asking is not alot, but its the principle that matters. There is no guarantee of a roi. That is why we ask for valid collateral. In case something fails on your end, we will have some form of security that can be liquidated so there is no loss on our end except for the time we took to give a loan. If we know you would pay back the loan, most would probably take the risk. There are some here who would pay back a loan or investment despite of the project being invested in grows or fails. Some, however, dont.

i am asking for 0.01BTC = 27$
i am repeating myself but will keep my know-how to myself, i explained above, why..

before commenting this thread , please read, i will not repeat myself non stop.
Also i realised, nobody wants to invest here, everybody just commenting how untrusty i am and my offer smells... Stop doing that, you can put a red trust when investor will not get paid.. but for this time stop suspecting me.. i feel very uncomfortable for that

Im telling you this now, this is no direct attack on you. Do not be like the idiots who throw a fit because of lenders asking for collateral or wont give a loan to you. You have to look at it from our point of view. We see many request everyday, and 90% of them (if not more) are newbies or some hacked or farmed account asking for a loan without valid collateral. Would we feel comfortable giving a loan to them? Im afraid not. And, getting a red trust doesnt mean you are a scammer. Some do it out of spite, or state they do not trust someone and to be cautious, however if they arent a trusted member, or a DT, it carries almost no weight unless the feedback given can match the reference post or even current post.

Good luck

[tomos81]

OP just PMed me asking to join his "project".
I see no mention of collateral anywhere.

Please tomos81 would you care to explain why you have negative trust ratings ?
Why should we trust you ?

As far as I have read through the posts, your "offer" smells like Ponzi...

ok explanation of negative trust:

dalecooper   2017-04-06   0.00000000      He did not pay his users. Be aware of him!
 i ran a project that was bought by mexicantarget - it's name was VirtualPub   - this btc game still running and it's more and more profitable..  I got payment problems that was solved by new owner.. So this guy got paid!

adsbit   2016-12-06   5.00000000      Stole 5 btc from me
This scammer is also known as vodalpeja and he ran a series of fake scammy ad networks, i gave him a red trust, and he gave me it back with no reason. It's just a troller guy.. Ask mexicantarget if you don't believe me..  I can put some references here, but i am at work, so it can take a while

Joel_Jantsen   2016-10-16   0.00000000   Reference   User is trying to scam by asking members to invest in his strategy which he doesn't want to share.Of course without using an escrow.Please don't send even a single satoshi to him unless you're looking to get scammed.
I posted in 2016 in the lending section one investment opportunity, that was filled and the lender was paid back with 120%  0.06BTC -> 0.072 BTC ...  If the guy will accept, i will update here his nick..  he is a hero member and can approve what i am commenting here..


collateral = my reputation.. i have nothing else unless you can accept a domain with ssl , still 10 months prepaid, or my BCT account..
my offer is not a ponzi, i mentioned it 2 times.. I just have my know-how how to get some profit without gambling/pyramind/ponzi

also people asked, to describe what  i am planning with your investment... I mentioned at least twice, it's my know-how and don't want to share it, because everybody will do that (because it's easy/simple)


I dont understand why people "investing" hundreds of bitcoins to ponzi scheme and have problems to spare 1M satoshis to real guy.. i can give you scan of my ID card as collateral too.. have no problem with that

The main one that Im more focus on is "Joel_Jastsen." Not based on his rank here on the forum, but because what he states is pretty much what is being mention here. You do not want to disclose this method because you believe people would do it for themselves, however how do you know youre the only one doing this method? Is it something special or unique of this method that no one knows about? Also, the person who gave you a loan was never disclosed. Could you provide his forum name or a link to the profile? Couldnt you ask for one from him again?

Collateral: Your domain is likely not worth it especially since we cannot sell the domain to get what we would invest. Same with your bct account.

Reputation takes time. Anyone can say they have reputation, but almost every person with real reputation would explain what they are doing with our coins, would be trusted by many members here. Then you have those who seek to trust farm, in attempt to one day try to score big. Easy to spot if you look at patterns. If you really believe in this method, why come here exactly? Why not go to a bank, take a huge loan, and have a bigger profit? For all we know, it could be a ponzi, even if you say its not. Sure, what youre asking is not alot, but its the principle that matters. There is no guarantee of a roi. That is why we ask for valid collateral. In case something fails on your end, we will have some form of security that can be liquidated so there is no loss on our end except for the time we took to give a loan. If we know you would pay back the loan, most would probably take the risk. There are some here who would pay back a loan or investment despite of the project being invested in grows or fails. Some, however, dont.

i am asking for 0.01BTC = 27$
i am repeating myself but will keep my know-how to myself, i explained above, why..

before commenting this thread , please read, i will not repeat myself non stop.
Also i realised, nobody wants to invest here, everybody just commenting how untrusty i am and my offer smells... Stop doing that, you can put a red trust when investor will not get paid.. but for this time stop suspecting me.. i feel very uncomfortable for that

Im telling you this now, this is no direct attack on you. Do not be like the idiots who throw a fit because of lenders asking for collateral or wont give a loan to you. You have to look at it from our point of view. We see many request everyday, and 90% of them (if not more) are newbies or some hacked or farmed account asking for a loan without valid collateral. Would we feel comfortable giving a loan to them? Im afraid not. And, getting a red trust doesnt mean you are a scammer. Some do it out of spite, or state they do not trust someone and to be cautious, however if they arent a trusted member, or a DT, it carries almost no weight unless the feedback given can match the reference post or even current post.

Good luck

ok i will not explain and repeat myself anymore. everyone wants my knowhow, how-to and so.. i will NOT share with you, trust me or not comment here.
as i told, i cant afford now to do it myself and i am pretty sure nobody doing "that" now.
as soon as the "old lender" will be online i will ask for his permission to share his nick in the forum

EDIT:  the old lender prefers not to be mentioned.  also he suggested me to move this thread, so it will be moved now..

[tomos81]

update:  2 investors joined, 2 free places left
will inform with results

both investors preferrs to stay in anonymity

[bitski]

if your so sure this works, how come with the "profit" you keep making,, you cant afford to make any payments to the users of the bitfootball site?

[latosha]

Can you explain what that is? I'm interested.

[tomos81]

Can you explain what that is? I'm interested.

sorry i will not give my know-how...  also i have full.. 5 investors already joined , some of them are starting 3rd round with me-> it means i am paying, it's not a ponzi or so

[latosha]

Can you explain what that is? I'm interested.

sorry i will not give my know-how...  also i have full.. 5 investors already joined , some of them are starting 3rd round with me-> it means i am paying, it's not a ponzi or so

ok no problem

[tomos81]

2 spots open, min. investment 1M  , max: 5M
return: 110-118%  within 2 weeks

PM me only if you interested

[carlfebz2]

2 spots open, min. investment 1M  , max: 5M
return: 110-118%  within 2 weeks

PM me only if you interested

You wont get that other 2 or you would really have a hard time on searching for those people and I'm quiet surprised that there are 2 people who do join on your proposed plans. 0.01-0.05 might not be big but its still money and talking about assurance of 5-15% every two weeks is too good to be true, if you are not doing gambling or joining on Ponzi schemes then what are you doing? supposed to be your on trading. I might be wrong but theres no other thing I can think off.