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August 02, 2017, 02:14:13 PM Last edit: August 03, 2017, 09:11:08 AM by alifrenstein |
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Hello friends! I need your help.
I have a lot of BTC in my Electrum wallet, and I want to get my BCC, but the problem is that I only have one machine.
Therefore, I am very afraid to take any risk because I read these instructions in the Electrum site:
1. Install Electron Cash on a machine that does not have your Electrum wallets.
2. Wait until the BCC hard fork has taken place, and a few BCC blocks have been mined.
3. Move all your Electrum funds to a new Electrum wallet. This will move only your BTC, and not your BCC, because the BCC blockchain has replay protection. Wait until the transaction is confirmed.
4. Enter the seed of your (now empty) old wallet or private keys in Electron Cash. Since the BTC have been moved to a new wallet, entering your old seed in Electron Cash will not put your BTC funds at risk.
I wanted to ask, if I install VMware Workstation in my PC and create a virtual machine and use it for Electron Cash, is there still a risk?
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alifrenstein (OP)
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August 02, 2017, 02:27:07 PM |
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I hope that someone can help me and provide me with a solution. It's pretty urgent, because I expect BCC price to drop down a lot soon as too many people will sell their BCCs, and I don't want to miss this opportunity...
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CryptosapienZA
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August 02, 2017, 02:33:29 PM |
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You are going to end up loosing all your bitcoins. I dont understand why people are in such a rush. I dont even see your Electron Cash wallet on the list of BCH supporting wallets. Are you sure this wallet supports BCH? Which Electrum are you using because I looked on https://electrum.org and theres nothing about Electron Cash
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alifrenstein (OP)
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August 02, 2017, 02:35:57 PM |
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You are going to end up loosing all your bitcoins. I dont understand why people are in such a rush. I dont even see your Electron Cash wallet on the list of BCH supporting wallets. Are you sure this wallet supports BCH? Which Electrum are you using because I looked on https://electrum.org and theres nothing about Electron Cash Yes, I am sure. I am using the normal electrum wallet from electrum.org and I know that my funds are safe there, so I can't take any risk. Please check this about Electron Cash: https://electrum.org/bcc2.txtMaybe I should just wait until there will be another solution and it won't be obligatory to use more than one machine...
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August 02, 2017, 02:38:52 PM |
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I have a lot of BTC in my Electrum wallet, and I want to get my BCC, but the problem is that I only have one machine.
You could use your cell-phone ? You are going to end up loosing all your bitcoins. I dont understand why people are in such a rush. I dont even see your Electron Cash wallet on the list of BCH supporting wallets. Are you sure this wallet supports BCH? Which Electrum are you using because I looked on https://electrum.org and theres nothing about Electron Cash Yes,there are risks still involved.The other wallet is not associated with the original electrum in any ways.Although it has been listed on BCH's official website but it isn't advised to move your coins in it yet as there are security issues.Especially if you're technically weak.
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CryptosapienZA
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August 02, 2017, 02:41:54 PM |
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To be honest, I wouldnt do anything if I were you for now. Wait until all this dust and madness settles. This is a very good opportunity for hackers and scammers to make money. Right its still very risky. See this person has lost 45 BTC from an "Electrum" wallet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059967.0
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CONANEDO
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August 02, 2017, 02:44:38 PM |
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i am using electrum too,is there possible for me to transfer my BTC to exchanger and then after 30 confirmation using the same computer to install BCC wallet?i only have one computer,what should i do?
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Niya
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August 02, 2017, 03:06:18 PM |
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Do you have an USB stick? Electrum has a portable version too...
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alifrenstein (OP)
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August 02, 2017, 03:31:25 PM |
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You could use your cell-phone ?
How and in what way? Do you have an USB stick? Electrum has a portable version too...
No I don't have.
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August 02, 2017, 03:42:18 PM |
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Guys install a second operating system! For instance download and install virutal box. Start it and install Linux, Ubuntu or whatever. Download Electron Cash in that virtual System. In your first system create anothe wallet with Electrum. Send your funds to that new wallet.Now your BTC will be safe! Then use the seed and/or private keys from your old electrum wallet to get your BCC/BCH in your Electron Cash wallet in your virtual system. It's not that difficult! From your virtual system and the Electron Cash wallet you send your new BCH funds to an exchange of your choice. However right now the Bcash chain isn't creating any Block for more than 10 hours now. Patience is needed!
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Niya
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August 02, 2017, 03:50:15 PM |
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You could use your cell-phone ?
How and in what way? Do you have an USB stick? Electrum has a portable version too...
No I don't have. Well, you can use a mobile wallet (like Coinomi) and redeem your BCH. Or you can use a portable version of electrum, first move all your BTC to this new wallet, then delete the old (empty) one you have on your computer and install a Bitcoin Cash wallet on your computer. Then import your private keys in your BCH wallet to claim these coins.
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Vishnu.Reang
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August 02, 2017, 04:04:21 PM |
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Please refrain from using electron cash. There are some issues with it. I tried to install it in my smartphone, and it was asking permission to read and modify the contents in my SD card. I immediately denied it the permission and deleted the files.
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romec1701
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August 02, 2017, 04:17:36 PM |
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I used Coinomi mobile app on my android phone. From the BitcoinCash wallet i swept my old BTC private keys (I had already emptied them in regular BTC chain) and voila my coinomi had my BitcoinCash coins in it. From there you can send to an exchange that does allow BCH to BTC trades. I went for viaBTC but wish I hadnt as although i converted the coins to BTC they require 20 confirmations until you can withdraw. My transaction is 22 hrs old and still only has 12 confirmations...
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Harlot
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August 02, 2017, 04:25:47 PM |
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To summarize your options I can say that these are possible and the last one is not.
Cell Phone From what I know Electrum has an android app for their Bitcoin Wallet, which you can safely transfer your Bitcoins. Take Note: Transfer your Bitcoin do not enter the seed of your first wallet (it will also transfer the hidden Bitcoin if you do).
Other App/ Online Bitcoin Wallet Sending your Bitcoin to a new wallet provider is a simple technique as transacting with Bitcoin is now safe. With this technique you will be transferring your Bitcoin out of the Electrum Wallet
DO NOT INSTALL A 2ND OPERATING SYSTEM Just like what Electrum officially announced you need to transfer your Bitcoin into a different machine, it can still mess up your nodes even if you have a different o.s.
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August 02, 2017, 04:30:03 PM |
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You are going to end up loosing all your bitcoins. I dont understand why people are in such a rush. I dont even see your Electron Cash wallet on the list of BCH supporting wallets. Are you sure this wallet supports BCH? Which Electrum are you using because I looked on https://electrum.org and theres nothing about Electron Cash Can you explain to me why people are using such terms as "redeem my Bitcoin Cash"? As far as I thought, when we sell Bitcoin Cash we also lose the equivalent amount worth of Bitcoin. It can't be the case that everyone is getting free money... right? Am I missing something?
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August 02, 2017, 04:33:43 PM Last edit: August 02, 2017, 05:02:46 PM by Quantus |
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First make at least 3 encrypted backups of your wallet.dat file and move atleast some of them to other computers or upload a copy to the web for storage. (make sure your password is strong) and change the file name or hide it in an image. Then delete (or just cut/paste to your desktop) your wallet.dat file and make a new one. Make encrypted copes and Back it up just like the old one... then (make sure you don't get them mixed up!) Copy the receiving address of your new wallet.dat. Then replace your new wallet.dat file for your old one. Send your Bitcoins from the old wallet.dat to the new wallet.dat receiving address.
Your old wallet should now be empty of Bitcoin but will have valid keys for Bitcoin cash. Your new wallet.dat file will hold all your Bitcoins if you did it right.
uninstall the Bitcoin client and install Bitcoin cash client (using your old wallet.dat file) Now you can send your Bitcoin cash without fear of losing Bitcoin.
After you are done delete the Bitcoin CAsh client and run 9 million virus scans (BECAUSE FUCK THAT GOD DAM SCAM COIN!) then reinstall bitcoin client with your new wallet.dat file.
(use this at your own risk)
Bitcoin Cash is full retard it will take you 2 days just to send your BCC to an exchange to dump by the time it gets 20 confirmations it will be worthless.
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(I am a 1MB block supporter who thinks all users should be using Full-Node clients) Avoid the XT shills, they only want to destroy bitcoin, their hubris and greed will destroy us. Know your adversary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg
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August 02, 2017, 04:48:47 PM |
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To be honest, I wouldnt do anything if I were you for now. Wait until all this dust and madness settles. This is a very good opportunity for hackers and scammers to make money. Right its still very risky. See this person has lost 45 BTC from an "Electrum" wallet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059967.0Read that earlier, fucking terrible. I desperately want the BCH associated to my private keys in Core but I'm not going to risk anything until it feels safer to do so.
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August 03, 2017, 04:05:13 AM |
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People here are dam in hurry of moving out the BTC and start trading. Lols. Why do you want to move it so early as electrum has not yet published the required exchanger to trade BCC and BCH. You should be little conservative about this situation as anything can happen. Then electrum won't be helping you out with your lost bitcoin.
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August 03, 2017, 08:59:22 AM |
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You could use your cell-phone ?
How and in what way? Do you have an USB stick? Electrum has a portable version too...
No I don't have. Well, you can use a mobile wallet (like Coinomi) and redeem your BCH. Or you can use a portable version of electrum, first move all your BTC to this new wallet, then delete the old (empty) one you have on your computer and install a Bitcoin Cash wallet on your computer. Then import your private keys in your BCH wallet to claim these coins. i'm a user of coinomi(android),but i can find where to input priv key,can you show me the way please?
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August 03, 2017, 09:04:18 AM |
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Hmm...it seems that the best thing to do is to simply wait patiently few days / weeks, until there will be a clear solution for claiming BCC from Electrum wallet without any risk.
I can't take any kind of risk because I have a lot of BTC in my Electrum wallet and of course can't afford to lose anything.
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