Is Monero, Dash and all anon coins fucked?

[YarkoL]

I'd love to know Shelby's take on Mimblewimble.

http://mimblewimble.cash/

[adChain]

I hardly think so, as long as there is a need for conducting financial transactions anonymously there will be a need for anon coins.

[jerkoin]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

[altseeker]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

[volyova]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

Correct, privacy and ease-of-use are THE most important features going forward imo.

[stupid_seb]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

Correct, privacy and ease-of-use are THE most important features going forward imo.

Interesting.
Ease of use: Obviously

But don't you think that privacy may be a hindrance for mass adoption ? (On the client side, and vendor side)
I struggle to see how vendors like Overstock or Ebay would accept such anon coins.

Please can you develop your theory? Much appreciated. Thanks

[gunhell16]

MINERO MIINERO IS SUCH A GOOD COIN ... i invested all of my BTC to hinm.... i believe on him so much ...
how i did said that ? ive been on the trading industry and i watched that minero ting it is fck as good and climb the tree so goo ..
i am gathering money now because of this MINERO THING

[Texacha]

"Minero"? New currency?

[bitmixer2]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

That is not the question. The question was if Monero, Dash and other anonCoins are REALLY safe.

[volyova]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

Correct, privacy and ease-of-use are THE most important features going forward imo.

Interesting.
Ease of use: Obviously

But don't you think that privacy may be a hindrance for mass adoption ? (On the client side, and vendor side)
I struggle to see how vendors like Overstock or Ebay would accept such anon coins.

Please can you develop your theory? Much appreciated. Thanks

Hi! In my opinion, privacy is important because there will ALWAYS be some little miscreants online who NEED to do anon transactions. Therefore, the demand is there, permanently. And don't forget they are prepared to "pay through the nose" for it (privacy, that is). All questions of legality aside, their demands will be met by suppliers (legally, or illegally). In fact things, that are "illegal", "forbidden" and "risky/exotic" usually get MORE expensive when they are driven underground. I guess my point is that you don't always need "mass adoption" to achieve a very high price per coin. Cheers, V.

[Argon2]

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

Anonymint, aka iamnotback has released this article on steemit. Im reading it right now myself but I want to share it here and hopefully get some coding wizards to review it.

Apparently it has caused him to be censored in the Monero reddit when he linked it, so this shows this must be pretty good.

The only anonymous cryptocurrencies are those that deploy Zero Knowledge Proofs. Zcash, ZCoin and Bitcoin (will have zkSnarks next year). Monero uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity and is in no way anonymous.

[volyova]

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

Anonymint, aka iamnotback has released this article on steemit. Im reading it right now myself but I want to share it here and hopefully get some coding wizards to review it.

Apparently it has caused him to be censored in the Monero reddit when he linked it, so this shows this must be pretty good.

The only anonymous cryptocurrencies are those that deploy Zero Knowledge Proofs. Zcash, ZCoin and Bitcoin (will have zkSnarks next year). Monero uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity and is in no way anonymous.

Correct, but in Zcash the total supply is not auditable, and "Zooko" and "Green" have decreed that they will endorse the creation of backdoors in Zerocash to "trace criminals". But who decides who is a criminal in a supposedly anonymous network?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Correct, but in Zcash the total supply is not auditable, and "Zooko" and "Green" have decreed that they will endorse the creation of backdoors in Zerocash to "trace criminals".

Wasn't the backdoor already added? Or that blackmarket taken down by FBI right after they added ZEC was a coincidence? 

[volyova]

Correct, but in Zcash the total supply is not auditable, and "Zooko" and "Green" have decreed that they will endorse the creation of backdoors in Zerocash to "trace criminals".

Wasn't the backdoor already added? Or that blackmarket taken down by FBI right after they added ZEC was a coincidence? 

Ikr, it's a complete joke..

[stupid_seb]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

Correct, privacy and ease-of-use are THE most important features going forward imo.

Interesting.
Ease of use: Obviously

But don't you think that privacy may be a hindrance for mass adoption ? (On the client side, and vendor side)
I struggle to see how vendors like Overstock or Ebay would accept such anon coins.

Please can you develop your theory? Much appreciated. Thanks

Hi! In my opinion, privacy is important because there will ALWAYS be some little miscreants online who NEED to do anon transactions. Therefore, the demand is there, permanently. And don't forget they are prepared to "pay through the nose" for it (privacy, that is). All questions of legality aside, their demands will be met by suppliers (legally, or illegally). In fact things, that are "illegal", "forbidden" and "risky/exotic" usually get MORE expensive when they are driven underground. I guess my point is that you don't always need "mass adoption" to achieve a very high price per coin. Cheers, V.

Thanks a lot. It makes sense.

Cheers.

[volyova]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

Correct, privacy and ease-of-use are THE most important features going forward imo.

Interesting.
Ease of use: Obviously

But don't you think that privacy may be a hindrance for mass adoption ? (On the client side, and vendor side)
I struggle to see how vendors like Overstock or Ebay would accept such anon coins.

Please can you develop your theory? Much appreciated. Thanks

Hi! In my opinion, privacy is important because there will ALWAYS be some little miscreants online who NEED to do anon transactions. Therefore, the demand is there, permanently. And don't forget they are prepared to "pay through the nose" for it (privacy, that is). All questions of legality aside, their demands will be met by suppliers (legally, or illegally). In fact things, that are "illegal", "forbidden" and "risky/exotic" usually get MORE expensive when they are driven underground. I guess my point is that you don't always need "mass adoption" to achieve a very high price per coin. Cheers, V.

Thanks a lot. It makes sense.

Cheers.

No problem, perhaps you would like to view these things?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4zOvMMqnBM_DLrtA4_XwGA/videos

[erwan]

monero is a very good coin for a long time. nothing is messed up with monero.
monero has given me several times profit in my trade. and until now the monero is running well.

[volyova]

monero is a very good coin for a long time. nothing is messed up with monero.
monero has given me several times profit in my trade. and until now the monero is running well.

"A very good coin" = "Something that made me money." Hmmm...does anybody actually think like that!?

[stupid_seb]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

Correct, privacy and ease-of-use are THE most important features going forward imo.

Interesting.
Ease of use: Obviously

But don't you think that privacy may be a hindrance for mass adoption ? (On the client side, and vendor side)
I struggle to see how vendors like Overstock or Ebay would accept such anon coins.

Please can you develop your theory? Much appreciated. Thanks

Hi! In my opinion, privacy is important because there will ALWAYS be some little miscreants online who NEED to do anon transactions. Therefore, the demand is there, permanently. And don't forget they are prepared to "pay through the nose" for it (privacy, that is). All questions of legality aside, their demands will be met by suppliers (legally, or illegally). In fact things, that are "illegal", "forbidden" and "risky/exotic" usually get MORE expensive when they are driven underground. I guess my point is that you don't always need "mass adoption" to achieve a very high price per coin. Cheers, V.

Thanks a lot. It makes sense.

Cheers.

No problem, perhaps you would like to view these things?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4zOvMMqnBM_DLrtA4_XwGA/videos

I actually did buy XZC when it was at 0.0022 days ago.
Technology looks promising, and its price is 10x below its direct competitors.
The TA was good and 0.0022 was a great price on the chats (still is)

I wanted to make sure I was re-putting money in a vertical that makes sense: privacy (i got burnt on XVG a while ago...). I feel more convinced now.

Thanks

[volyova]

In fact, almost every token will see now would be drowning in hurricane harvey by the end of the year 2018

You're wrong! anonymous coins will stay and will continue dominating the market, privacy plays a very important role in the crypto ecosystem.

Correct, privacy and ease-of-use are THE most important features going forward imo.

Interesting.
Ease of use: Obviously

But don't you think that privacy may be a hindrance for mass adoption ? (On the client side, and vendor side)
I struggle to see how vendors like Overstock or Ebay would accept such anon coins.

Please can you develop your theory? Much appreciated. Thanks

Hi! In my opinion, privacy is important because there will ALWAYS be some little miscreants online who NEED to do anon transactions. Therefore, the demand is there, permanently. And don't forget they are prepared to "pay through the nose" for it (privacy, that is). All questions of legality aside, their demands will be met by suppliers (legally, or illegally). In fact things, that are "illegal", "forbidden" and "risky/exotic" usually get MORE expensive when they are driven underground. I guess my point is that you don't always need "mass adoption" to achieve a very high price per coin. Cheers, V.

Thanks a lot. It makes sense.

Cheers.

No problem, perhaps you would like to view these things?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4zOvMMqnBM_DLrtA4_XwGA/videos

I actually did buy XZC when it was at 0.0022 days ago.
Technology looks promising, and its price is 10x below its direct competitors.
The TA was good and 0.0022 was a great price on the chats (still is)

I wanted to make sure I was re-putting money in a vertical that makes sense: privacy (i got burnt on XVG a while ago...). I feel more convinced now.

Thanks

Good choice! I can see you've got your "head screwed on".