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August 02, 2017, 08:57:53 PM
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Here is the post in the support format:

Bitcoin Client Software and Version Number:
Operating System:
System Hardware Specs:
Description of Problem: (See below)
Any Related Addresses: 15sNZxi1CJxY33tgaoFwKhbMHe2gpRemz2 (MY ADDRESS), 1NyWST8fCGDgg6cnjz7P3jjh8F16Si9VWH (INTENDED RECIPIENT's ADDRESS)
Any Related Transaction IDs: 1fb406429ea54d6af68fa529b06410b1a156c2f108b4588d18c8f8debc2e84aa (ID OF THE TXN GOING TO THE WRONG ADDRESS)
Screenshot of the problem: (see below)
Log Files from the Bitcoin Client:

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Hi guys,

I am sure you are all aware of the recent disaster of BTC-E, and while I am still praying to get the BTC I had in my wallet on the exchange back once (or IF) it does go back online. But I have also faced another problem with them before the site went offline - and quite frankly, this just seems like a huge scam to me (BTC-e team if you are seeing this, you need to respond).

So a few days before the site went offline, I received around BTC2.3 to my wallet with the address 15sNZxi1CJxY33tgaoFwKhbMHe2gpRemz2 and then I proceeded to send that out to someone with the wallet address 1NyWST8fCGDgg6cnjz7P3jjh8F16Si9VWH. As usual, I got a withdraw confirmation email from BTC-e and I confirmed the transaction (see below).

https://i.imgur.com/JCedz5z.png

I do a lot of transactions with this person so when today, I was reconciling my accounts, I see that the transaction never reached him. In fact, the transaction went to a completely different ID (see image below).

https://i.imgur.com/Nc4F9dk.png

Now, this is where things get interesting. There were NO transactions after the above one with this amount and that random btc address it seems to have gone to, BUT on the 31st of July 2017 (FOUR DAYS AFTER BTC-E SHUT DOWN) there was a txn of 2 BTC going out of my wallet to another random ID. (see image below).

https://i.imgur.com/sLUeWm6.png

The intented recipient of the transaction never received the money, I am confident that that payment which I initated on the 19th did actually go out and get transferred though. And there are suspicious transactions taking place in my wallet after the exchange was shut down.

Can someone please (I am praying to any entities listening too at the same time I am hoping for help from bitcointalk.org) help me recover this amount as you can see I sent it to the correct address (proof in the email screenshot of withdrawal above) but it never reached the right person.

I never expected this to happen with bitcoin. I know if it is my mistake i can lose it, but when I input the correct recipient address and STILL the money ends up in someone else's hands - how reliable is bitcoin? I might be wrong or missing something here (I hope I am and I get my money back).

Hoping to receive help from you guys on this.  

^gekko1609
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August 02, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
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I think the BTC-e owner got prosecuted for a finantial related offence (either laundering or fraud).
Therefore it is unlikely you'll get  aresponse here. Also, this post is probably better placed in the scam accusations or service discussion sections.

http://fortune.com/2017/07/27/btc-e-digital-currency/
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/26/russian-held-in-greece-in-bitcoin-laundering-linked-to-btc-e-exchange.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/27/russian-criminal-mastermind-4bn-bitcoin-laundering-scheme-arrested-mt-gox-exchange-alexander-vinnik

Your bitcoin are with either the Russian or the US governemtn, you probably need to contact them (but very little will probably come of it) - so sorry for your loss.
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August 02, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
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I think the BTC-e owner got prosecuted for a finantial related offence (either laundering or fraud).
Therefore it is unlikely you'll get  aresponse here. Also, this post is probably better placed in the scam accusations or service discussion sections.

http://fortune.com/2017/07/27/btc-e-digital-currency/
https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/07/26/russian-held-in-greece-in-bitcoin-laundering-linked-to-btc-e-exchange.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/27/russian-criminal-mastermind-4bn-bitcoin-laundering-scheme-arrested-mt-gox-exchange-alexander-vinnik

Your bitcoin are with either the Russian or the US governemtn, you probably need to contact them (but very little will probably come of it) - so sorry for your loss.

Yes he got caught for laundering money but this was before the exchange went down and if it was laundering then I believe all of the users' funds are still there on their servers. Moreover, I don't see anybody else with a similar complaint - any way this can be fixed??
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August 02, 2017, 10:24:59 PM
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I think the BTC-e owner got prosecuted for a finantial related offence (either laundering or fraud).
Therefore it is unlikely you'll get  aresponse here. Also, this post is probably better placed in the scam accusations or service discussion sections.

http://fortune.com/2017/07/27/btc-e-digital-currency/
https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/07/26/russian-held-in-greece-in-bitcoin-laundering-linked-to-btc-e-exchange.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/27/russian-criminal-mastermind-4bn-bitcoin-laundering-scheme-arrested-mt-gox-exchange-alexander-vinnik

Your bitcoin are with either the Russian or the US governemtn, you probably need to contact them (but very little will probably come of it) - so sorry for your loss.

Yes he got caught for laundering money but this was before the exchange went down and if it was laundering then I believe all of the users' funds are still there on their servers. Moreover, I don't see anybody else with a similar complaint - any way this can be fixed??

Try to contact them in some way, or take legal action against them?
Other then that, I'm not sure that there is much else you can do.

Also, check if that address is owned by anyone an contact them.
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August 02, 2017, 10:36:01 PM
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I think the BTC-e owner got prosecuted for a finantial related offence (either laundering or fraud).
Therefore it is unlikely you'll get  aresponse here. Also, this post is probably better placed in the scam accusations or service discussion sections.

http://fortune.com/2017/07/27/btc-e-digital-currency/
https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/07/26/russian-held-in-greece-in-bitcoin-laundering-linked-to-btc-e-exchange.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/27/russian-criminal-mastermind-4bn-bitcoin-laundering-scheme-arrested-mt-gox-exchange-alexander-vinnik

Your bitcoin are with either the Russian or the US governemtn, you probably need to contact them (but very little will probably come of it) - so sorry for your loss.

Yes he got caught for laundering money but this was before the exchange went down and if it was laundering then I believe all of the users' funds are still there on their servers. Moreover, I don't see anybody else with a similar complaint - any way this can be fixed??

Try to contact them in some way, or take legal action against them?
Other then that, I'm not sure that there is much else you can do.

Also, check if that address is owned by anyone an contact them.

How do I find out who owns that address?
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August 02, 2017, 11:03:34 PM
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I think the BTC-e owner got prosecuted for a finantial related offence (either laundering or fraud).
Therefore it is unlikely you'll get  aresponse here. Also, this post is probably better placed in the scam accusations or service discussion sections.

http://fortune.com/2017/07/27/btc-e-digital-currency/
https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/07/26/russian-held-in-greece-in-bitcoin-laundering-linked-to-btc-e-exchange.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/27/russian-criminal-mastermind-4bn-bitcoin-laundering-scheme-arrested-mt-gox-exchange-alexander-vinnik

Your bitcoin are with either the Russian or the US governemtn, you probably need to contact them (but very little will probably come of it) - so sorry for your loss.

Yes he got caught for laundering money but this was before the exchange went down and if it was laundering then I believe all of the users' funds are still there on their servers. Moreover, I don't see anybody else with a similar complaint - any way this can be fixed??

Try to contact them in some way, or take legal action against them?
Other then that, I'm not sure that there is much else you can do.

Also, check if that address is owned by anyone an contact them.

How do I find out who owns that address?

I meant just go online and check if the address is mentioned anywhere (I ran a search on google and it hasn't so it is probably owned by them or by another service who auto-generate their addresses.
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August 02, 2017, 11:59:23 PM
Last edit: August 03, 2017, 12:14:57 AM by Rahar02
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You can complain to BTC-E, but they have serious problem with the law right now and seems impossible to get your money back in the nearly future. But why now? As you said, this happened before btc-e got in trouble, the date of your withdraw is July 19.
After all this problem caused by Alexander vinnik to bring down btc-e, it should be so complicated to ask your bitcoin.
However, btc-e account on this forum has stated: The funds will be returned to everyone, but you have to wait, he said on September 1st. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056158.0
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August 03, 2017, 06:31:15 AM
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you just trade in a incorrect time and wrong place.

although BTC-e is one of few exchange which founded before 2013, but BTC-e always have a serious problem with moneylaunching and laws
that means you have no ways to take back your money but only complain online.
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August 03, 2017, 07:10:34 AM
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Okay, long story short you requested withdrawal, it was supposed to go to a fellow trader's wallet but instead it never arrived, correct?

Well in that case it is likely because either BTC-e wanting to manually review your withdrawal because they detect suspicious activity and/or/ their hot wallet was empty and they needed to refill it. But obviously they couldn't do either of the two due to the fact that they were seized by the US government soon afterwards.

I believe you, and i believe you deserve your money back. But it was just really bad timing. Of course it's no fault of yours.

BTC-e says that they will be reimbursing users, but this seems like a complex case. I really doubt you'll get your money back. Sorry for your loss, i hope it wasn't too bad of a hit.
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