Untrusted Campaign Manager

[Anegg]

Posted this on wizardee's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407977) campaign management thread:

I am a student situated in Sydney

If you are a student should you be focusing on your studies and making sure you don't fail tests, instead of trying to manage campaigns here. Managing campaigns may seem like some easy money, but leave it to the more experienced people such as Lutpin, Lauda, Yahoo, Edwardad and Darkstar.

What differentiates you from the giants, the people who are trusted?

High Quality Professional Work: I Will Not Rest Before A Task Is Completed To My Absolute Best.
Readily Available: If There Is Anything I Can Do Extra, I Will Get To It As Soon As I Can. I Will Also Respond To Messages Immediately At Any Given Time Except When Sleeping. [AET - Sydney UTC+10:00].
Rates Are Highly Competitive: My Rates Are Highly Competitive And I Will Only Ask For Payment After The Customer Is 100% Satisfied With My Given Work.
Correct And High Modality English: I Speak Fluent Native English That Is At A High Level.
I Can Manage Everything To Be Under Budget And On-Time.
I Only Allow Members With Good Post Quality To Join.
Even Though I Do Not Have Any Trust, I Believe I Can Still Provide A Professional Service.

Why is the first letter of everything capped here.
This user's email address was changed recently.
Hmmm, seems weird, why would you change email when you state you have enough experience to manage a bounty, bought account maybe?

oh oh oh oh who dumped 65k on 0.0014

idiot noob

the party not end yet

Here is an example of one of your old posts on June the 4th, not very structured aye?

Always when we rise and success i miss our village idiot cuteflower

One more example.

maybe because of this ?     9:20 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz7Za__ulgk

More and more ppl in  the world speaking about CLOAK!

We getting slow the attention what we long time awaited!

Keep the momentum!

Here is where I suspect the account changed hands, shortly after that post came these:

Why use Bitcoins ?

I keep seeing threads on “why don't people” ? The real question to me is Why would they ?

-The average consumer will go way out of their way to save money. Bitcoins cost more.
-The average consumer will usually pay a little extra to have convenience. Bitcoin is less convenience and more hoops and complications.

I just cannot see any reason for the average consumer to use Bitcoins. Until average consumers start using Bitcoins they will just be an experiment and a small speculative bubble.

I have my personal reasons, I am interested Bitcoins them as a tech person, speculative investor and person that follows evolving treads and markets. I am just struggling to see any.. benefits for the average consumer at this stage.  

Yes, I agree with what you have to say.

However, if the average consumer was to buy bitcoin, even though it would cost quite some amount, bitcoin would retain its value when you go spend it. What I mean is that there is no set amount you can buy. If you want to buy $62 worth for an Amazon transaction, you would then have $62 worth of bitcoin (maybe less because of transaction fees). Which then brings me to your next point, bitcoin isn't that simple for the average consumer, although it is slowly getting there. We should see a point in the future where a vast amount of average consumers use bitcoin.

Bitcoin's expensiveness can be linked to multiple things that have happened over the past few years. However, the main point is the sheer demand that has arisen for it. This has caused bitcoin's value to shoot up drastically. Bitcoin's value is greatly dependant on the amount of users it currently houses. If we were to remove a large number of those users, bitcoin's value would plummet.

Sudden change in post quality highly suggest the account was sold at that date around June the 27th or 26th. Hmmm, getting weird now.

After that it only took you a month to enrol in signature campaigns and decide you want to run one.

Wouldn't trust him at all.

He then deleted it: http://imgur.com/a/LOwSr.

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[wizardee]

Hello! I see you have decided to run me to the ground for no reason whatsoever. What have I ever done against you?

Also, I am doing just fine as an assistant campaign manager for KickICO with no complaints whatsoever. That goes to show that it is possible to be a manager and be trusted. You have to start somewhere. I am sure all the big managers started small too. Feel free to investigate all you want. Stop spamming my thread, it is not something I would want.

I have nothing to do with Windpower, why are you bringing a random scammer into discussion? What happened there has nothing to do with me - that is not the way that management is supposed to be done.  

[Anegg]

LOL, I see you have not addressed any of the issues I have raised, is your account bought or not? If you didn't know, people who avoid something like a question, usually have no response or have been caught.

Hello! I see you have decided to run me to the ground for no reason whatsoever. What have I ever done against you?

What's wrong, don't want your employers to know about your shady history. The question isn't what I have ever done against me, the question is what have you done to yourself?

Also, I am doing just fine as a campaign manager for KickICO with no complaints whatsoever. That goes to show that it is possible to be a manager and be trusted. You have to start somewhere. I am sure all the big managers started small too. Feel free to investigate all you want. Stop spamming my thread, it is not something I would want.

Reason I spammed your thread was for people to know what type of manager you are. I wouldn't have spammed if you didn't delete my comment not once, not twice, But 3 times. Shows that you have something to hide, aye? I'm also sure that the big managers didn't buy hero accounts or delete any negative comments on their thread  

I have nothing to do with Windpower, why are you bringing a random scammer into discussion? What happened there has nothing to do with me - that is not the way that management is supposed to be done.  

Sure, deleted the link.

[wizardee]

What type of manager am I? Please only address that issue once any problems have arisen from them, not YOU. If they complain about me, then I will agree with that.
However, as for you, I have never talked, seen or messaged you. You have no idea who I am and why all of a sudden just target a random person? Want to eliminate some competition for management? What you are doing is a very dirty thing, you know, targeting an individual who is trying to build trust and reputation amongst the community.

[Anegg]

What type of manager am I?

Think I already mentioned that, am i talking to a 5 year old, do I have to repeat myself?

Please only address that issue once any problems have arisen from them, not YOU.

I am trying to stop a possible scam from happening, I have grounds in which I made this claims and you have not addressed them once again.

If they complain about me, then I will agree with that.

Lets wait.

However, as for you, I have never talked, seen or messaged you.

Just because you haven't talked to me doesn't mean I can't help protect people who might be scam victims. What do you want?

You have no idea who I am and why all of a sudden just target a random person?

Random person who deleted negative feedback on this thread and STILL hasn't addressed concerns relating to a bought account.

Want to eliminate some competition for management?

I have quit managing, leaving it to the big kids.

What you are doing is a very dirty thing, you know, targeting an individual who is trying to build trust and reputation amongst the community.

Address my concerns then, since you have nothing to hide and I am obviously being super dirty.

[onnz423]

I believe this belongs under Reputation or Scam accusations, so i reported it so it gets moved eventually.
Anyway, the campaign manager is shady as hell by deleting critisism and such.

What type of manager am I? Please only address that issue once any problems have arisen from them, not YOU. If they complain about me, then I will agree with that.
However, as for you, I have never talked, seen or messaged you. You have no idea who I am and why all of a sudden just target a random person? Want to eliminate some competition for management? What you are doing is a very dirty thing, you know, targeting an individual who is trying to build trust and reputation amongst the community.

You are a manager, and if someone asks question or critisizes you, you instantly delete their reply.
That is what scammers usually do, and you lost lost part of your reputation as well. Maybe campaign managing is not for you, because you should have balls of steel for that instead of running away people who do not like your ways of doing things.
I would never, ever hire someone so unprofessional if i were to make a campaign at some point.

[wizardee]

Who says I am going to scam? What way is there to scam if I do not ask to hold any funds? I am only an assistant manager, there are people above me. Why would I scam anyone only to then loose my dignity, reputation and to live with the fact that I have obtained funds illegally.

[Anegg]

I believe this belongs under Reputation or Scam accusations, so i reported it so it gets moved eventually.

Oh yeah, didn't think abour posting it in Scam accusations since no scams have occurred since and didn't think of the reputation board. Thanks, hopefully the thread will be moved soon. Have reported it myself.

[onnz423]

Who says I am going to scam? What way is there to scam if I do not ask to hold any funds? I am only an assistant manager, there are people above me. Why would I scam anyone only to then loose my dignity, reputation and to live with the fact that I have obtained funds illegally.

Im just wondering, im just curious about the self moderated thread as well as recently changed email address.
You could always sign a message from staked address, to prove that you are the owner of the account as well.
Deleting replies from self-moderated thread is always a red flag, and you cannot trust people who do that. It would be understandable if it was clearly spam, instead of just regular questions and being skeptical.

[wizardee]

Who says I am going to scam? What way is there to scam if I do not ask to hold any funds? I am only an assistant manager, there are people above me. Why would I scam anyone only to then loose my dignity, reputation and to live with the fact that I have obtained funds illegally.

Im just wondering, im just curious about the self moderated thread as well as recently changed email address.
You could always sign a message from staked address, to prove that you are the owner of the account as well.
Deleting replies from self-moderated thread is always a red flag, and you cannot trust people who do that. It would be understandable if it was clearly spam, instead of just regular questions and being skeptical.

Let me ask you, what are the red flags? Do you really think I am going to scam? How would I be able to do that? The only reason I have made it self moderated is that I can delete posts such as this, posts made for no reason out of the blue. If someone has a problem with me, please address it properly. How do I scam as a manager if I don't hold any funds?

[Anegg]

I see you still avoiding the question as always, raises an even bigger concern. Why not a signed message? There is nothing else to say until you answer my question

PS: Thanks for moving it mods!

[Kickico Bounty Hunter]

To comment on this:

Deadley managing KickICO campaign and wizardee only assisting him on bounty thread

[deadley]

To comment on this:

Deadley managing KickICO campaign and wizardee only assisting him on bounty thread

Thanks KickICO, I am campaign manager of KickICO, wizardee is assisting me hire by KickICO team before me.

He is assisting me on replying query on thread and updating sheet time to time. He is doing good work there so have no issue.

It was wrong he posted on his campaign management thread that he is managing KickICO campaign.

P.S. it's my first campaign so I am just learning as fast as I can so will not have any problem in future.

[wizardee]

To comment on this:

Deadley managing KickICO campaign and wizardee only assisting him on bounty thread

Thanks KickICO, I am campaign manager of KickICO, wizardee is assisting me hire by KickICO team before me.

He is assisting me on replying query on thread and updating sheet time to time. He is doing good work there so have no issue.

It was wrong he posted on his campaign management thread that he is managing KickICO campaign.

P.S. it's my first campaign so I am just learning as fast as I can so will not have any problem in future.

Thank you for your reply deadley, highly appreciated. I have fixed what was written incorrectly on my thread. Anegg, only bug me with a thread such as this if I have committed anything wrong.

[actmyname]

Sign this address: mzpmVQcPfdzKeGAmCLYLWMPGVtfrbkPgZ5
with your CloakCoin wallet.
https://archive.is/VmYca#selection-5063.38-5063.72

Or the one found in the receiving address here in this image: https://archive.is/zByLe#selection-6585.0-6585.1


Surely someone so vehement about supporting CloakCoin wouldn't "lose their address" right?


You also have two very contrasting opinions here.

if bitcoin price back to 1475 usd which was before i think 2 or 3 weeks then cloak coin also back to 0.45 usd as we all know that cloak price is not increasing. bitcoin price increasing so cloakcoin usd price increasing so cloak is still on same price. at least cloak price should be 10 usd now

bitcoin to 1475? how dumb are you? in you wet dreams u will see bitcoin again at 1475  

Bitcoin for me means a lot. Mainly it is an investment platform for me as well as a trading tool. I make most of my money through altcoin trading as well as selling services. For most people it is also a trading platform, but we will soon see that change in the near future to a fully functional currency.

The old wizardee was fully supportive of Cloak. There would always be at least one post every page. The new one? Not so much.

Prove you own some Cloak before July 27, 2017 and we'll start talking. Even June would be fine.
Archive of post quality change

Seclog showed a pass change a day before the posts.
July 26, 2017, 07:19:15 AM - wizardee - password changed

[onnz423]

Sign this address: mzpmVQcPfdzKeGAmCLYLWMPGVtfrbkPgZ5
with your CloakCoin wallet.
https://archive.is/VmYca#selection-5063.38-5063.72

Or the one found in the receiving address here in this image: https://archive.is/zByLe#selection-6585.0-6585.1


Surely someone so vehement about supporting CloakCoin wouldn't "lose their address" right?


You also have two very contrasting opinions here.

if bitcoin price back to 1475 usd which was before i think 2 or 3 weeks then cloak coin also back to 0.45 usd as we all know that cloak price is not increasing. bitcoin price increasing so cloakcoin usd price increasing so cloak is still on same price. at least cloak price should be 10 usd now

bitcoin to 1475? how dumb are you? in you wet dreams u will see bitcoin again at 1475  

Bitcoin for me means a lot. Mainly it is an investment platform for me as well as a trading tool. I make most of my money through altcoin trading as well as selling services. For most people it is also a trading platform, but we will soon see that change in the near future to a fully functional currency.

The old wizardee was fully supportive of Cloak. There would always be at least one post every page. The new one? Not so much.

Prove you own some Cloak before July 27, 2017 and we'll start talking. Even June would be fine.
Archive of post quality change

Seclog showed a pass change a day before the posts.
July 26, 2017, 07:19:15 AM - wizardee - password changed

The rabbit hole is going even deeper, now he is trying to ask me to other clients such as telegram and skype and does not want to discuss this on bitcointalk.
I seriously feel like this is a hacked/stolen or bought account when we look at the whole situation.

Here are the PM's he sent me:

[Lauda]

This person is not qualified for any kind of campaign management.

Sudden change in post quality highly suggest the account was sold at that date around June the 27th or 26th. Hmmm, getting weird now.

It seems likely that this is the case, and I would tag the account if this were proven to be true. I'll keep watching for changes in case that the accused does or does not provide a signed message as requested by actmyname.

[Anegg]

I would like to appologise as it has come to my attention that I may have hurt the integrity and reputation of the accused, wizardee.
I have realised that I should not have attacked wizardee as there isn't sufficent evidence to support that he is doing a bad job as a campaign manager or is trying to scam anyone.
After an extensive discussion with him, it has come to the surface that there are no problems with his employers about his work and that he is doing a very competent job.

[onnz423]

I would like to appologise as it has come to my attention that I may have hurt the integrity and reputation of the accused, wizardee.
I have realised that I should not have attacked wizardee as there isn't sufficent evidence to support that he is doing a bad job as a campaign manager or is trying to scam anyone.
After an extensive discussion with him, it has come to the surface that there are no problems with his employers about his work and that he is doing a very competent job.

There was actually a reply by him where he admitted for buying the account (He deleted the reply and i did not have time to archive it.).
So he deserved all of the stuff that was coming to him, account sales are heavily encouraged here.
Maybe next time he'll learn to actually pay effort to his reputation and make a new account instead, if i was actually part of some project like that, i would instantly fire him for a bought account.

[Lone Shark]

This guy creates a new thread every time someone reacts to his scamsignature campaign management service. I reacted to one of his NEW ANN thread and he locked it and deleted the first post. Great, really trust worth behavior right there.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2087003.msg20854797#msg20854797