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August 03, 2017, 01:03:19 PM |
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NOTHNG good long term can come of BCC. I don't care, dump it, pump it do what the fuck you want with it but in the end get that shit out of here.
1. Bitcoin doesn't need to scale it's never was going to be a settlement medium. It's a store of wealth and the backbone of the decentralised crypto currency world. It's not fucking VISA.
2. We have plenty of other alts that can serve as payment chains.
3. BCC undermines in the eyes and minds of many people the idea of Bitcoin and so the whole community crypto currency will long term suffer if we don't just dump this shit and treat it for what it is a shitcoin scam. If it stays around then newbies will start thinking it's better than Bitcoin and we will upend Bitcoin and crypto.
4. If we continue with this coin the. The small gains people got from BCC will dwarf the amounts lost over time from potential BTC and alt rises.
If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
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August 03, 2017, 01:09:11 PM |
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For me too i think the only use of bcc is just for dumping after it was splitted. It just as the same as btc but off course different features. But I don't see any new miners that would be enticed to mine it. It does not require Segwit and although it is much more bigger than btc, it is still a fact than it is just a regular action with no extra features like other around in the market.
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August 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM |
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If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
It does not fair well for crypto if out of thin air 10 Billion marketcap appear. "Cash", most in this forum instantly associate it with scam. Who is responsible for selecting the "Bitcoin scam" name? Or was it intentionally chosen?
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August 03, 2017, 01:15:45 PM |
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Totally agree. Actually Bitmain is cancer. Their currency is trying to kill bitcoin but community is bigger then bitmain.
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August 03, 2017, 01:18:34 PM |
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The people behind this BCC coin are hopeless Chinese investors who wants to get buy a large portion of BTC so they can manipulate the crypto market. But they will not succeed. NOTHNG good long term can come of BCC. I don't care, dump it, pump it do what the fuck you want with it but in the end get that shit out of here.
1. Bitcoin doesn't need to scale it's never was going to be a settlement medium. It's a store of wealth and the backbone of the decentralised crypto currency world. It's not fucking VISA.
2. We have plenty of other alts that can serve as payment chains.
3. BCC undermines in the eyes and minds of many people the idea of Bitcoin and so the whole community crypto currency will long term suffer if we don't just dump this shit and treat it for what it is a shitcoin scam. If it stays around then newbies will start thinking it's better than Bitcoin and we will upend Bitcoin and crypto.
4. If we continue with this coin the. The small gains people got from BCC will dwarf the amounts lost over time from potential BTC and alt rises.
If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
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August 03, 2017, 01:19:00 PM |
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So your saying the original plan for bitcoin that is looking for OFF chain solutions to the transaction capability issue is the correct way?
Both project have altered views on how the development should progress. If anything its the bad press surrounding the fork that caused the problem.
Think about this.. The original vision for bitcoin was that of ON chain development. On chain development ie block size increase and replay protection are great advances in the protocol its looking for on chain solutions to keep de-central.
Were as you have the original bitcoin looking at Off chain solutions such as lightning network.
Which one was the original vision by satoshi.
While I was sceptical about the fork at first now once I have had time to evaluate it I can see no issue arrisuing from it. The fact it helped many people make money and it gives people a choice now I feel is good.
But we await to see the next move by the developers.
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August 03, 2017, 01:28:39 PM |
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If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
It does not fair well for crypto if out of thin air 10 Billion marketcap appear. Totally agree. I'm still trying to grasp how it happened without any adjustment to the cap of BTC. Doesn't make much sense from a finance perspective.
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August 03, 2017, 01:29:47 PM |
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If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
It does not fair well for crypto if out of thin air 10 Billion marketcap appear. "Cash", most in this forum instantly associate it with scam. Who is responsible for selecting the "Bitcoin scam" name? Or was it intentionally chosen? totally agree even for me. Hope not to revive the 2007 crash
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August 03, 2017, 01:32:19 PM |
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NOTHNG good long term can come of BCC. I don't care, dump it, pump it do what the fuck you want with it but in the end get that shit out of here.
1. Bitcoin doesn't need to scale it's never was going to be a settlement medium. It's a store of wealth and the backbone of the decentralised crypto currency world. It's not fucking VISA.
2. We have plenty of other alts that can serve as payment chains.
3. BCC undermines in the eyes and minds of many people the idea of Bitcoin and so the whole community crypto currency will long term suffer if we don't just dump this shit and treat it for what it is a shitcoin scam. If it stays around then newbies will start thinking it's better than Bitcoin and we will upend Bitcoin and crypto.
4. If we continue with this coin the. The small gains people got from BCC will dwarf the amounts lost over time from potential BTC and alt rises.
If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
agreed, I think bcc will eventually fall since it has features like BTC but not the value. bcc can be treated as altcoin but i think this cryptocurrency will disappear.
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Fatoshi (OP)
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August 03, 2017, 01:33:21 PM |
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So your saying the original plan for bitcoin that is looking for OFF chain solutions to the transaction capability issue is the correct way?
Both project have altered views on how the development should progress. If anything its the bad press surrounding the fork that caused the problem.
Think about this.. The original vision for bitcoin was that of ON chain development. On chain development ie block size increase and replay protection are great advances in the protocol its looking for on chain solutions to keep de-central.
Were as you have the original bitcoin looking at Off chain solutions such as lightning network.
Which one was the original vision by satoshi.
While I was sceptical about the fork at first now once I have had time to evaluate it I can see no issue arrisuing from it. The fact it helped many people make money and it gives people a choice now I feel is good.
But we await to see the next move by the developers.
Nick Szabo aka Satoshi has said in the past Bitcoin was never meant to be ViSA. Digital Gold was its main purpose I believe.
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August 03, 2017, 01:36:47 PM |
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1. Bitcoin doesn't need to scale it's never was going to be a settlement medium. It's a store of wealth and the backbone of the decentralised crypto currency world. It's not fucking VISA.
Absolutely correct, I don't know why bitcoin cash was forked but I know that segwit solves issues of bitcoin
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August 03, 2017, 01:39:49 PM |
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NOTHNG good long term can come of BCC. I don't care, dump it, pump it do what the fuck you want with it but in the end get that shit out of here.
1. Bitcoin doesn't need to scale it's never was going to be a settlement medium. It's a store of wealth and the backbone of the decentralised crypto currency world. It's not fucking VISA.
2. We have plenty of other alts that can serve as payment chains.
3. BCC undermines in the eyes and minds of many people the idea of Bitcoin and so the whole community crypto currency will long term suffer if we don't just dump this shit and treat it for what it is a shitcoin scam. If it stays around then newbies will start thinking it's better than Bitcoin and we will upend Bitcoin and crypto.
4. If we continue with this coin the. The small gains people got from BCC will dwarf the amounts lost over time from potential BTC and alt rises.
If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
Absolutely agree. BCH is nothing but being detrimental to Bitcoin. Unprofessional, a source of confusion and it's obvious that millions were poured into it to advertise it. So your saying the original plan for bitcoin that is looking for OFF chain solutions to the transaction capability issue is the correct way?
Both project have altered views on how the development should progress. If anything its the bad press surrounding the fork that caused the problem.
Think about this.. The original vision for bitcoin was that of ON chain development. On chain development ie block size increase and replay protection are great advances in the protocol its looking for on chain solutions to keep de-central.
Were as you have the original bitcoin looking at Off chain solutions such as lightning network.
Which one was the original vision by satoshi.
While I was sceptical about the fork at first now once I have had time to evaluate it I can see no issue arrisuing from it. The fact it helped many people make money and it gives people a choice now I feel is good.
But we await to see the next move by the developers.
There's no reason that everyone's morning coffee should be on the Bitcoin blockchain. There are hundreds of altcoins for that. And with 10 minute blocktimes it's obvious it's not intended for very time sensitive payments. And while BCH is now unused, if it would be used by thousands of services, fees would increase pushing microtransaction out regardless of blocksize. There's no way avoiding a fee market and that is fine. "The fact it helped many people make money and it gives people a choice now I feel is good."
That money has to come from somewhere, disenfranchising people from crypto who lost on a heavily pumped fork is detimental to Bitcoin.
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August 03, 2017, 01:41:27 PM |
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If someone wanted to kill the idea of Bitcoin then I can't think of anything better than keep making Bitcoin chains till no one takes any of it seriously. We all lose...
It does not fair well for crypto if out of thin air 10 Billion marketcap appear. Totally agree. I'm still trying to grasp how it happened without any adjustment to the cap of BTC. Doesn't make much sense from a finance perspective. Is like handing someone a $ 100 Bill and ask him to split it. Sure he says here is your $ 100 Bill and the $ 1 coin split Note to self, will visit that guy more often
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August 03, 2017, 01:45:33 PM |
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As long as one can trade it, I dont care! One more asset to make money off. Go BCH!
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August 03, 2017, 01:58:22 PM |
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As long as one can trade it, I dont care! One more asset to make money off. Go BCH!
Totally i agree with you as long as there are altcoins that has chance to make good profit, especially bitcoins cash had gave free coins because of the bitcoin's hard fork, we will choose them but however the altcoins can gives good profit, the factors of fundamental the altcoins must be seen by us as investors and personaly i don't trust in bitcoins cash even i don't know who are the developer team of bitcoins cash.
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August 03, 2017, 02:00:58 PM |
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it still offer a different solution to scaling, which is mandatory, for your information without the possibility to scaling, bitcoin will never be adopted globally, all the transaction will be stuck forever with very expensive fee, now segwit will be activated, and meanwhile we have already a solution on another fork called bitcoin cash, i think it will be accepted by merchants in the enar features
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August 03, 2017, 02:19:53 PM |
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As long as one can trade it, I dont care! One more asset to make money off. Go BCH!
Totally i agree with you as long as there are altcoins that has chance to make good profit, especially bitcoins cash had gave free coins because of the bitcoin's hard fork, we will choose them but however the altcoins can gives good profit, the factors of fundamental the altcoins must be seen by us as investors and personaly i don't trust in bitcoins cash even i don't know who are the developer team of bitcoins cash. Yes it is. Eversince altcoins is doing their job to provide the necessities of people who are widely knowledgeable in crypto currencies globally. Indeed it gives good profit but when bitcoin cash existed, many are in doubt of trading because they or we don't have complete background of it. The question is who is making this kind of splitting way of transaction if I'm not mistaken to what I heard from others. Most likely they don't agree with bitcoin cash and it scares them.
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August 03, 2017, 02:31:01 PM |
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Totally agree. Actually Bitmain is cancer. Their currency is trying to kill bitcoin but community is bigger then bitmain.
Bitmain cant really do nothing if the community would decide on which way they would go. Bitcoin Cash is really a Cancer and i dont know why other people do really love its existence.I do sold out all of my BCH on a certain price i dont care on what price point as long i can dispose those coins things off. BCH cant kill Bitcoin as long community wont really support it. It would really just still remain as an altcoin.
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August 03, 2017, 02:32:32 PM |
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Luckily this cancer got me some free money
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August 03, 2017, 02:36:14 PM |
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it still offer a different solution to scaling, which is mandatory, for your information without the possibility to scaling, bitcoin will never be adopted globally, all the transaction will be stuck forever with very expensive fee, now segwit will be activated, and meanwhile we have already a solution on another fork called bitcoin cash, i think it will be accepted by merchants in the enar features
No, it won't. If hundreds of altcoins with much higher TPS couldn't dethrone BTC, a lazy split certainly won't.
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