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November 04, 2013, 03:28:46 PM
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These styles of arguments are I think flawed, like saying the Black Plague was the best thing to happen to Europe.  Yes there is growth through adversity, in some cases, but in other cases, it just crushes people.  Was Communism the best thing to happen to East Germany?  Stalin the best thing that ever happened to Russia?

To be fair, the black plague severely reduced the power of the church, and greatly reduced the labor pool, causing everyone's wages to rise sharply, and through that combination helped usher in the Renaissance. So......
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November 05, 2013, 06:41:59 AM
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These styles of arguments are I think flawed, like saying the Black Plague was the best thing to happen to Europe.  Yes there is growth through adversity, in some cases, but in other cases, it just crushes people.  Was Communism the best thing to happen to East Germany?  Stalin the best thing that ever happened to Russia?

To be fair, the black plague severely reduced the power of the church, and greatly reduced the labor pool, causing everyone's wages to rise sharply, and through that combination helped usher in the Renaissance. So......

And the rise of Communism did lead to the equality of people in China through Maos reform movement after the exploitation under Japanese and Kumotang forces in China plus the 100 years of shame prior to the revolution that was under the Qing dynasty creating and forming the development of a system to challenge the international capitalist system but point taken Cheesy

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November 07, 2013, 06:47:14 AM
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The bad thing about Obama, is that he is doing irreversible damage to the USA and the world.


ObamaCare has far greater implications than most people realize...

USA has been fast forwarded to a total surveillance and police state.

It. Cannot. Be. Undone.
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November 07, 2013, 10:45:33 PM
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USA has been fast forwarded to a total surveillance and police state.

It. Cannot. Be. Undone.

Of course it can.  One EMP can bring us back to the stone age.

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November 07, 2013, 11:33:42 PM
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USA has been fast forwarded to a total surveillance and police state.

It. Cannot. Be. Undone.

Of course it can.  One EMP can bring us back to the stone age.




Stone age thinking, seems right up your ally! Cheesy

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November 08, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
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The bad thing about Obama, is that he is doing irreversible damage to the USA and the world.


ObamaCare has far greater implications than most people realize...

USA has been fast forwarded to a total surveillance and police state.

It. Cannot. Be. Undone.

People don't surveil and police for free. Remove their source of income, and making surveilance more difficult and expensive, can help with the problem. We have tools for both.
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November 08, 2013, 10:30:16 PM
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The only good thing he's done was not going to war with syria and he was basically forced into that. He's basically a lot of hot air. The candidate Obama would've hated him.
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November 08, 2013, 10:57:53 PM
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The only good thing he's done was not going to war with syria and he was basically forced into that. He's basically a lot of hot air. The candidate Obama would've hated him.

The other good thing about him was that red line speech he gave. That was comedy gold. Not for the people gazed of course, because they never got that joke.
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November 09, 2013, 04:09:13 AM
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He did get us out of Iraq. McCain wanted to stay in until we've "won"
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November 09, 2013, 04:24:54 AM
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He did get us out of Iraq. McCain wanted to stay in until we've "won"


Sorry mate, but the USA is a one party system. Both Democrat and Republics are the same thing. There is no two party system.

Either candidate would have produced the same results.
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November 09, 2013, 05:21:57 AM
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He did get us out of Iraq. McCain wanted to stay in until we've "won"


Sorry mate, but the USA is a one party system. Both Democrat and Republics are the same thing. There is no two party system.

Either candidate would have produced the same results.

For many things, yes, but not for this.
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November 09, 2013, 08:22:57 AM
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i know i've made a vow to never vote (D) or (R).. except for maybe elizabeth warren.
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November 09, 2013, 06:10:41 PM
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For many things, yes, but not for this.



Rassah, you are misinformed.


Obama said he was going to withdraw troops from Afghanistan too  Roll Eyes



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November 10, 2013, 04:30:21 AM
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i know i've made a vow to never vote (D) or (R).. except for maybe elizabeth warren.

From what native Indian tribe is she from again?
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November 10, 2013, 08:42:03 AM
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i know i've made a vow to never vote (D) or (R).. except for maybe elizabeth warren.

From what native Indian tribe is she from again?

Why? Will that help you make a decision? She never brought that up as an issue to be considered in her campaign. Her opponent did.
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November 10, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
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i know i've made a vow to never vote (D) or (R).. except for maybe elizabeth warren.

From what native Indian tribe is she from again?

Why? Will that help you make a decision? She never brought that up as an issue to be considered in her campaign. Her opponent did.

Do you remember exactly why her opponent did bring this up? I believe you vote for someone based on his or her character, it does not matter if that person is right wing or left wing.
Now her family was split about (not her opponent first) the veracity of her claim. Not sure if you know or not how ancestries work withing Native Indian tribes but even with 1/32 blood they can prove it easily because they use a "blood ledger", very close much to the blockchain. Not one tribe claimed her.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/senate/2012/09/15/elizabeth-warren-family-has-mixed-memories-about-heritage/cPMflfaOlndM1jFbimJ4tM/story.html

That was one thing. Her fame came from being one of the political face of the OWS movement. She even said she owned it:
Elizabeth Warren Takes Intellectual Credit for Occupy Wall Street : http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/elizabeth-warren-takes-intellectual-credit-for-occupy-wall-street/

But the truth is, like any other politicians she loved Wall Street money:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/296227/elizabeth-warrens-wall-street-money-machine-kevin-d-williamson
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2012/01/13/serial_hypocrite_elizabeth_warren_still_accepting_wall_street_money

Now there is an obvious push from some sock puppets to make her a new alternative to Hilary for 2016:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/06/why-you-shouldnt-underestimate-elizabeth-warren/
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115523/new-republic-november-cover-elizabeth-warren-being-john-malkovich

I believe this is a smart move just in case Hilary gets hit by the Benghazi's lies a few months from now. It is too bad that that plan B is Warren.

I have a problem with liars. I will always truly respect a true socialist believer, a true communist believer over a fake free market libertarian poser any time. A lot (if all) of my closest friends are socialists and we love counter argue all the time, for years since we were teens pretty much.

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November 10, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
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Ron Paul for the win.

Served his country, and a doctor.
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November 12, 2013, 05:07:48 AM
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If someone tells me they are native, or Asian, or African, or of some obscure European decent, I say, "that's nice" and continue not giving a shit, not immediately spend time trying to figure out what race they really are. Because, you know, race doesn't matter.
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November 12, 2013, 10:21:26 PM
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Conservatives and liberals  are two wings of the same bird.

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November 12, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
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Conservatives and liberals  are two wings of the same bird.

I like this analogy Grin

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