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August 04, 2017, 08:06:12 PM
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I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?
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August 04, 2017, 08:24:37 PM
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No way. Nakamoto hasn't posted anything for years, and segwit is a fairly recent thing initially proposed in late 2015.

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August 04, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
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Satoshi was active on this forum.  Here are his posts.

As you can see his last post was on December 12th, 2010.  After that he has given no further information.

Because SegWit was proposed far later than when satoshi left, he had no direct or official opinion on it, nor did he have an opinion on Bitcoin Cash.

Many supporters of Bitcoin Cash have argued that satoshi supported larger block sizes and opposed SegWit.  It's difficult to suggest that he was against SegWit, and I think that this statement is made just because people see SegWit as being against block size increases.  As for whether he supported larger blocks, it looks like he did.  Whether he knew what the implications of larger blocks would be were the network under more stress I don't know, but personally I don't subscribe to the narrative that the block size can never be increased or that it's necessarily bad.

A likely source of your information would be the subreddit r/btc.  While uncensored (with open moderation logs), r/btc is mainly a protest against r/bitcoin, and therefore most people on that subreddit are in an echo chamber of supporting larger blocks, much like how people in r/bitcoin are in an echo chamber of opposing larger blocks.

Personally I would suggest that you ignore both subreddits and simply learn about how Bitcoin works.  Most people on the Internet discussing it are too biased to give neutral or reasonable opinions on the topic and it's hard to distinguish reason from bullshit a lot of the time.

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August 04, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
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No way. Nakamoto hasn't posted anything for years, and segwit is a fairly recent thing initially proposed in late 2015.

This, lol.
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August 04, 2017, 08:39:42 PM
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Most people on the Internet discussing it are too biased to give neutral or reasonable opinions on the topic and it's hard to distinguish reason from bullshit a lot of the time.

Let's be honest, that applies to any topic on the Interweb.

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August 04, 2017, 09:59:06 PM
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Satoshi was active on this forum.  Here are his posts.

As you can see his last post was on December 12th, 2010.  After that he has given no further information.

Because SegWit was proposed far later than when satoshi left, he had no direct or official opinion on it, nor did he have an opinion on Bitcoin Cash.

Many supporters of Bitcoin Cash have argued that satoshi supported larger block sizes and opposed SegWit.  It's difficult to suggest that he was against SegWit, and I think that this statement is made just because people see SegWit as being against block size increases.  As for whether he supported larger blocks, it looks like he did.  Whether he knew what the implications of larger blocks would be were the network under more stress I don't know, but personally I don't subscribe to the narrative that the block size can never be increased or that it's necessarily bad.

A likely source of your information would be the subreddit r/btc.  While uncensored (with open moderation logs), r/btc is mainly a protest against r/bitcoin, and therefore most people on that subreddit are in an echo chamber of supporting larger blocks, much like how people in r/bitcoin are in an echo chamber of opposing larger blocks.

Personally I would suggest that you ignore both subreddits and simply learn about how Bitcoin works.  Most people on the Internet discussing it are too biased to give neutral or reasonable opinions on the topic and it's hard to distinguish reason from bullshit a lot of the time.

Fucking farmed account. You would know all about fucking echo chambers wouldn't you.

Talking all smooth and inane.
Of course satoshi liked big blocks. Bitcoin is was based on big blocks.

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August 04, 2017, 10:10:12 PM
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I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?

Where did you "read somewhere" about this? SOURCE?!
Don't just claim you read about something Satoshi said recently when he hasn't said anything since 2010.
Literally no one knows who he is yet you claim to have some kind of inside knowledge. Lol... no, just no.
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August 04, 2017, 10:14:10 PM
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Satoshi was active on this forum.  Here are his posts.

As you can see his last post was on December 12th, 2010.  After that he has given no further information.

Because SegWit was proposed far later than when satoshi left, he had no direct or official opinion on it, nor did he have an opinion on Bitcoin Cash.

Many supporters of Bitcoin Cash have argued that satoshi supported larger block sizes and opposed SegWit.  It's difficult to suggest that he was against SegWit, and I think that this statement is made just because people see SegWit as being against block size increases.  As for whether he supported larger blocks, it looks like he did.  Whether he knew what the implications of larger blocks would be were the network under more stress I don't know, but personally I don't subscribe to the narrative that the block size can never be increased or that it's necessarily bad.

A likely source of your information would be the subreddit r/btc.  While uncensored (with open moderation logs), r/btc is mainly a protest against r/bitcoin, and therefore most people on that subreddit are in an echo chamber of supporting larger blocks, much like how people in r/bitcoin are in an echo chamber of opposing larger blocks.

Personally I would suggest that you ignore both subreddits and simply learn about how Bitcoin works.  Most people on the Internet discussing it are too biased to give neutral or reasonable opinions on the topic and it's hard to distinguish reason from bullshit a lot of the time.

Satoshi said that he didn't want his software forked, so he would have been against Bitcoin Cash by default.

He said me made bitcoin with the idea of supporting a lot of transaction formats. I have no idea what he would have said about segwit. I would like to see that, given how much controversy this thing has had.

But what's guaranteed is, he would have opposed the hardfork.
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August 04, 2017, 10:20:54 PM
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I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?

Where did you "read somewhere" about this? SOURCE?!
Don't just claim you read about something Satoshi said recently when he hasn't said anything since 2010.
Literally no one knows who he is yet you claim to have some kind of inside knowledge. Lol... no, just no.

Yup. and the next fucking theymos farmed account appears to tell you you are wrong. Stop thinking that.
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August 04, 2017, 10:27:12 PM
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I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?

Where did you "read somewhere" about this? SOURCE?!
Don't just claim you read about something Satoshi said recently when he hasn't said anything since 2010.
Literally no one knows who he is yet you claim to have some kind of inside knowledge. Lol... no, just no.

Yes, a direct link to what you've read would be nice in order for us to verify your claims. However, all will just ignore your thoughts OP since Satoshi was not around anymore. So we can immediately conclude your claims to be false.

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August 04, 2017, 10:37:01 PM
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this is getting ridiculous lately,
i encountered something like this before,and the tittle said he died[Satoshi Nakamoto].
and right now someone claimed that 'he was reading somewhere that Segwit is shit or something like that'.
seems like 'OPPOSITE' party creating a lot shit topic.
one of those creating about 'Someone mining Bitcoin and disciplined,the irony is that news came from 2014),
another one created about 'Satoshi dead in the street'
and this one created about 'Some shit Segwit or bla bla bla'.

This community don't need something or someone like you guys,please if you want to compete do it fairly

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August 04, 2017, 10:40:37 PM
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I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?

Where did you "read somewhere" about this? SOURCE?!
Don't just claim you read about something Satoshi said recently when he hasn't said anything since 2010.
Literally no one knows who he is yet you claim to have some kind of inside knowledge. Lol... no, just no.

Yes, a direct link to what you've read would be nice in order for us to verify your claims. However, all will just ignore your thoughts OP since Satoshi was not around anymore. So we can immediately conclude your claims to be false.

Who the fuck is this? It is obvious.
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August 04, 2017, 10:53:27 PM
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this is getting ridiculous lately,

You said it dork.
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August 04, 2017, 11:37:16 PM
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I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?

Where did you "read somewhere" about this? SOURCE?!
Don't just claim you read about something Satoshi said recently when he hasn't said anything since 2010.
Literally no one knows who he is yet you claim to have some kind of inside knowledge. Lol... no, just no.

It is so very possible that Satoshi could have created a new account using a different name fo the past 7 to 8 years on this forum just to see what others have discussed.  He may have posted one post here and there and still be a newbie.

Satoshi may have chosen 1mb for a block concerning that the blockchain size may get too big over time as for every 10 minutes a block is created.  But we cannot really know what he actually thinks.  The world changes consistently at a very quick pace and it is really hard to predict what will happen in the distance future.  He may have not anticipated the large demand right now which causes the transaction process to be this slow and transaction fee to go up like this. Years ago, people would think that the fees would be in pennies. 

If he is still around, he would continue to enhance and to protect Bitcoin with or without block size improvements.  His main mission was to create a decentralized cryptocurrency which can replace fiats one day and to remove the influences from the federal banks.  The block size debate is insignificant.

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August 04, 2017, 11:47:03 PM
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I am more interested in knowing who told you that.

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August 05, 2017, 12:45:48 AM
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I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?

Where did you "read somewhere" about this? SOURCE?!
Don't just claim you read about something Satoshi said recently when he hasn't said anything since 2010.
Literally no one knows who he is yet you claim to have some kind of inside knowledge. Lol... no, just no.

It is so very possible that Satoshi could have created a new account using a different name fo the past 7 to 8 years on this forum just to see what others have discussed.  He may have posted one post here and there and still be a newbie.

Satoshi may have chosen 1mb for a block concerning that the blockchain size may get too big over time as for every 10 minutes a block is created.  But we cannot really know what he actually thinks.  The world changes consistently at a very quick pace and it is really hard to predict what will happen in the distance future.  He may have not anticipated the large demand right now which causes the transaction process to be this slow and transaction fee to go up like this. Years ago, people would think that the fees would be in pennies. 

If he is still around, he would continue to enhance and to protect Bitcoin with or without block size improvements.  His main mission was to create a decentralized cryptocurrency which can replace fiats one day and to remove the influences from the federal banks.  The block size debate is insignificant.

Of course he did. That is what i would do. One can imagine the amount of private messages people sent him and he got fed up... or something like that.

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August 05, 2017, 12:57:33 AM
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When we go through the post history of Satoshi one can understand what all the efforts he made to make it more successful. Bitcoin is all about the trust and purely a speculative asset. In some form he didn't wish his innovation to be forked, but this could have taken place long back if he is known to the world.

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August 05, 2017, 01:45:57 AM
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it does not  matter now we have big blocks BCC

and segwit BTC

take your pick...

debate over.

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August 05, 2017, 01:56:15 AM
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it does not  matter now we have big blocks BCC

and segwit BTC

take your pick...

debate over.

I take both.  Why not keep the other one if they give it to you for free?   I take whatever which is profitable.

I read somewhere Satoshi Nakamoto, the father of bitcoin didn't agree with Segwit and he was opposed it. is it true? If yes Does it mean he agreed with Cash?

Where did you "read somewhere" about this? SOURCE?!
Don't just claim you read about something Satoshi said recently when he hasn't said anything since 2010.
Literally no one knows who he is yet you claim to have some kind of inside knowledge. Lol... no, just no.

It is so very possible that Satoshi could have created a new account using a different name fo the past 7 to 8 years on this forum just to see what others have discussed.  He may have posted one post here and there and still be a newbie.

Satoshi may have chosen 1mb for a block concerning that the blockchain size may get too big over time as for every 10 minutes a block is created.  But we cannot really know what he actually thinks.  The world changes consistently at a very quick pace and it is really hard to predict what will happen in the distance future.  He may have not anticipated the large demand right now which causes the transaction process to be this slow and transaction fee to go up like this. Years ago, people would think that the fees would be in pennies. 

If he is still around, he would continue to enhance and to protect Bitcoin with or without block size improvements.  His main mission was to create a decentralized cryptocurrency which can replace fiats one day and to remove the influences from the federal banks.  The block size debate is insignificant.

Of course he did. That is what i would do. One can imagine the amount of private messages people sent him and he got fed up... or something like that.

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August 05, 2017, 02:07:44 AM
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I didn't know that satoshi posted such a thing as far as i know he left in 2011 soe users that he was an active member here in 2010 dont know if that's true but you can search for his post here dont know if the search engine would function right now.
Dont know if satoshi would support larger blocks because i haven't heard amy statements for him that he supported it and will never know after he have designed the 1mb block size for bitcoin but if that increase in size would benefit bitcoin i guess he would do it. That's only my own opinion.

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DICE
SLOTS
BACCARAT
BLACKJACK
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GAME SHOWS
POKER
ROULETTE
CASUAL GAMES
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