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August 04, 2017, 08:20:52 PM
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How to claim my BCC in Electrum cash without giving my seed to electrum cash's owners?
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August 04, 2017, 08:30:35 PM
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You can import your electrum private keys on electron cash by clicking in wallet > private keys > sweep
I have some problems with it but it could work for you.
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August 04, 2017, 08:48:05 PM
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You can import your electrum private keys on electron cash by clicking in wallet > private keys > sweep
I have some problems with it but it could work for you.

Don't do that.
No different between private keys and seeds. after importing, they have control of your coins.
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August 04, 2017, 08:58:07 PM
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You can import your electrum private keys on electron cash by clicking in wallet > private keys > sweep
I have some problems with it but it could work for you.

Don't do that.
No different between private keys and seeds. after importing, they have control of your coins.

If he type the seed too, so the risk is always there. Both are the only ways to have your bccs.
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August 05, 2017, 05:18:42 PM
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You should send your existing BTC coins to a new wallet with a new seed, then you can import your seed/private keys into a BCC wallet without risk of your BTC coins being affected.
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August 06, 2017, 01:07:19 AM
Last edit: August 06, 2017, 01:33:30 AM by HCP
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How to claim my BCC in Electrum cash without giving my seed to electrum cash's owners?
No different between private keys and seeds. after importing, they have control of your coins.
Why exactly do you guys think that "they" (I assume you mean the ElectronCash developers) have control of your coins? There is quite a bit of FUD being spread around with regards to ElectronCash... so to clarify:

- Is it safe?
No one really knows for sure if it is Safe or Not... the code is open source which is a good start, as it is easy to see the changes that have been made since it was forked from Electrum codebase... so running from source or compiling yourself will let you run on code which is "known". The binaries are a slightly different story.


- But what about the binaries?
There is no proof that the binaries are "Bad"™... Granted, they are signed using basically an "anonymous" PGP signature, which doesn't really offer much in the way of "security" as the developer isn't putting their good name and reputation on the line but stating that the binaries are "safe"... If they turn out to be bad, the dev is free to just walk away and create another username/profile. However, this doesn't mean that they are malware or going to steal your stuff... To put this into perspective, the Electrum binaries being signed with ThomasV's PGP signature, basically only prove that it was ThomasV who signed the files... and they haven't been tampered with since he signed them. It doesn't prove that the files are good. It just means that ThomasV is saying "I vouch for these files" and you can prove they haven't been tampered with. So the only guarantee you have is ThomasV's word that they're OK.


- But I heard that it copies your Electrum Wallet??!? ZOMG HAX!!!!
The Electron Cash devs made, in my opinion, a fairly silly decision to copy the contents of the Electrum data directory (should it exist) over to the Electron Cash directory in an attempt to make using Electron Cash "easy" for people... you install Electron Cash, open it up and your wallets are already there to be used. I understand why they did this, I just don't think it was a good idea as it makes people paranoid and thanks to the internet gets blown up into "ZOMG eLecTrumCash is steeeeling my BitCoInZ!!!?1!!?!!!1?!?!" Roll Eyes


- Yeah, but that one guy had his coins stolen after using ElectronCash!!!!!!!!1!!!11?!!1!One!!!!Eleven!!!!!
Yeah, because he was an idiot and downloaded some dodgy hacked version from a scam clone site version of the ElectronCash website... just like a LOT of people have done previously with scam clone versions of Electrum... and scam clone versions of <insert bitcoin software/service here>.


- So, what do I do??? I'm so confused!!
Take the proper precautions. Make sure you only download from the official ElectronCash website. Run from source or compile your own copy.

Then, move your BTC to a completely new wallet with new seeds/addresses/keys... do this on a separate computer so you're completely separated from ElectronCash if you are super paranoid want an extra layer of security. Once all your BTC are in the new wallet... you can safely use your "OldSeed" with ElectronCash without fear of losing BTC... only your BCC is at risk... and given what has happened with the price since it started openly trading on Bittrex/ViaBTC... it's not really worth much anyway Tongue

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August 07, 2017, 11:57:45 PM
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Are there any plans by electrum to create a wallet for bitcoincash so those who haven't claimed their bitcoincash can do so?  And of course people can store bitcoincash there?  I know electrum also has a litecoin wallet etc.


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August 08, 2017, 05:43:07 AM
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Are there any plans by electrum to create a wallet for bitcoincash so those who haven't claimed their bitcoincash can do so?  And of course people can store bitcoincash there?  I know electrum also has a litecoin wallet etc.
Electrum-LTC is like Electron Cash. It is a "fork" of the original Electrum and it is NOT developed, maintained or endorsed by the Electrum developer (ThomasV).

Either use Electron Cash or one of the other bitcoin cash wallets listed at: https://www.bitcoincash.org/

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August 17, 2017, 08:23:26 PM
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Good evening,

I tried to claim my BCH/BCC from my blockchain.info wallet via Electron Cash. The blockchain.info wallet already existed long time before the 1st of August.

What did I do:
  • Exported the private key from my blockchain.info wallet.
  • Transferred all BTC to a different blockchain.info wallet.
  • Installed Electron Cash
  • Created a new wallet: New -> Standard Wallet -> Use Public or Private Key Create keystore from keys: Here I put my private key.
Now I see an empty window with an balance of 0 BCC.

What did I do wrong?

Is there still a way to get the BCC?
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August 17, 2017, 11:19:20 PM
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Good evening,

I tried to claim my BCH/BCC from my blockchain.info wallet via Electron Cash. The blockchain.info wallet already existed long time before the 1st of August.

What did I do:
  • Exported the private key from my blockchain.info wallet.
  • Transferred all BTC to a different blockchain.info wallet.
  • Installed Electron Cash
  • Created a new wallet: New -> Standard Wallet -> Use Public or Private Key Create keystore from keys: Here I put my private key.
Now I see an empty window with an balance of 0 BCC.

What did I do wrong?

Is there still a way to get the BCC?
It would seem that you have imported the incorrect private key. Are you sure your b.info wallet only had one private key in it? B.info wallets are usually Hierarchical Deterministic (HD) wallets... do you have the 12 word seed backup?

If you do, a better option would be to import the 12 word seed backup from your OLD b.info wallet into ElectronCash, as that would automatically generate ALL the private keys for that wallet. I believe you would need to use the "BIP39 Seed" option (click "Options" button when creating wallet with "I already have a seed")... and then use derivation path: m/44'/0'/0'

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August 18, 2017, 05:12:58 AM
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It would seem that you have imported the incorrect private key. Are you sure your b.info wallet only had one private key in it?
Yes, I had only one address in my wallet.

B.info wallets are usually Hierarchical Deterministic (HD) wallets... do you have the 12 word seed backup?
Yes, I have too. I created now the next wallet with my 12 words. But also this wallet is empty. I used also the derivation path and the BIP 37 Seed option.

Btw. how much time does it take until I can see the the credit? Maybe it takes some time.
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August 18, 2017, 06:57:13 AM
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Btw. how much time does it take until I can see the the credit? Maybe it takes some time.
You should see it instantly.

Have you tried to check the address that may contain the BCC in the Blockchair Explorer[1] to see if you really have coins in that wallet?

After making the search, you will probably see results for both Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash chain. Or you may also just go to:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/<your BCC address>

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August 18, 2017, 06:59:58 AM
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Usually seconds...

If you show the addresses ("Wallet -> show addresses")... and then click on the "addresses" tab, do you see the same address as your address from b.info? If not, then something isn't quite right (either wrong key... or wrong derivation path)

When you say wallet is empty... is it showing transactions but has 0.00 balance? Or is it not showing anything at all ie. No transactions and 0.00 balance?

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August 18, 2017, 01:36:26 PM
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When you say wallet is empty... is it showing transactions but has 0.00 balance? Or is it not showing anything at all ie. No transactions and 0.00 balance?
Hey, I´ve the same problem.
Transaction clear, ballance 0.00.
Wallet adress is checked, the same like b.info.
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August 19, 2017, 02:06:12 AM
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Probably because that private key only had 3.907 BCH. Unless you had all you coins in one address, one private key will NOT have all your BCH either.

What wallet did you have the 51 bitcoins in before the fork? and what addresses?  You need to make sure you have the private keys for ALL the addresses that your bitcoins are in.

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August 19, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
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What's all this talk about importing private keys and disclosing seed, etc?

I had a small of amount of BTC in an Electrum wallet on 1st August. I bought some more after 1st August and stored that in the same wallet.

My Ledger Nano S arrived this week and I transferred all BTC from my Electrum wallet to my Ledger Bitcoin wallet. Today, I downloaded Electron Cash, opened it with my Electrum password and within a couple of minutes it synchronised and displayed the same amount of BCC, complete with history, as I had BTC on 1st August. I transferred that to my Ledger Bitcoin Cash (Split) wallet.

Simple, and no need to create new wallets or use seed or private keys.
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August 19, 2017, 07:20:22 PM
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What's all this talk about importing private keys and disclosing seed, etc?

I had a small of amount of BTC in an Electrum wallet on 1st August. I bought some more after 1st August and stored that in the same wallet.

My Ledger Nano S arrived this week and I transferred all BTC from my Electrum wallet to my Ledger Bitcoin wallet. Today, I downloaded Electron Cash, opened it with my Electrum password and within a couple of minutes it synchronised and displayed the same amount of BCC, complete with history, as I had BTC on 1st August. I transferred that to my Ledger Bitcoin Cash (Split) wallet.

Simple, and no need to create new wallets or use seed or private keys.

Well yeah, since you got a ledger, you didn't have to create a new wallet. For anyone that doesn't happen to have a Ledger arriving this week, they will have to create a new wallet to transport their pre-fork btc to.

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August 20, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
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Another alternative, as I understand, is to send your BTC to your exchange account (very temporarily), then install a BCH wallet, claim your BCH by entering your Electrum wallet (now empty) private key, and finally transfer back you BTC to your Electrum wallet?
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Have you tried to check the address that may contain the BCC in the Blockchair Explorer[1] to see if you really have coins in that wallet?
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/1CbbvF4AEtnkavWXrioemgjMYb86B4Po8X

There are 2 BCC listed.

When you say wallet is empty... is it showing transactions but has 0.00 balance? Or is it not showing anything at all ie. No transactions and 0.00 balance?
https://picload.org/view/rwcdicwi/screenshot-20170820%40195210.png.html

How do I get the BCC out of my blockchain.info wallet.

I have:
  • The private key of the address. There's only one address in my wallet.
  • The 12 security words.
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August 20, 2017, 06:32:01 PM
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Ok, if you look at addresses tab in Electron Cash (wallet - show addresses), do you see that address? If not then the wallet has not been created with either the correct seed or is not using the correct derivation path.

To get your b.info wallet BCH, you need to:

"File -> New\Restore -> standard wallet -> I already have a seed -> Options -> BIP39 seed"

Then enter your 12 words from b.info and, when prompted, use derivation path: m/44'/0'/0'/0 (it should default to this)

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