So has Roger Ver dumped his BTC for BCC yet?

[thejaytiesto]

We all know the epic thread with Loaded and Roger Ver attempting to make the biggest bet ever. Roger Ver claimed he was down to sell his BTC for BTE:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1836672.0

He also now claims that Loaded pussied out.

Well, BCC is BTE: The Return, and Roger Ver was endorsing it. He said BTC is useless now because it's too slow and too expensive, and that the market would choose BCC because it's faster and cheaper. The graphs seem to point otherwise.

Roger Ver has surely dumped his useless BTC for fast and cheap BCC right? that's the minimum you would expect from someone that spends so much time promoting a fork.
Same goes for Craig Wright and so on.

Of course, unless when it's all said and done, all of them are a pussy too scared to dump in support of their fork and they all secretly keep their "useless" BTC.

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[Red-Apple]

...Well, BCC is BTE: ...

bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE

anyways, this is a very interesting question. all the drama and fights aside, if you think of a moment away from it all, he should have dumped it already. when you believe in your own project you invest in it. hell you go all in if you do.
i am very interested to know what did Roger do to be honest?

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

[xdev]

Well he is correct that Bitcoin has limitations that Bitcoin cash will solve. Of course its easy for everyone to just dump BCC and put all of it in BTC and act all cool.

No one knows the future, if the biggest investors and if BCC becomes accepted and preferred over BTC then you wont be as cocky anymore. The biggest investors will jump the ship eventually as they have all shown support for BCC

[XbladeX]

...Well, BCC is BTE: ...

bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE

anyways, this is a very interesting question. all the drama and fights aside, if you think of a moment away from it all, he should have dumped it already. when you believe in your own project you invest in it. hell you go all in if you do.
i am very interested to know what did Roger do to be honest?

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

Roger will buy deep like 10-50$ then he will strt promoting that coin. He is not that dump he is acting like that .
BTW i think he lost most his BTC and he jumped on altcoins train too. He was promoting those alts.
I hope he will tay with that Bcash and fork away from BTC. They wanted BIG block so they have them now.

[thejaytiesto]

...Well, BCC is BTE: ...

bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE

anyways, this is a very interesting question. all the drama and fights aside, if you think of a moment away from it all, he should have dumped it already. when you believe in your own project you invest in it. hell you go all in if you do.
i am very interested to know what did Roger do to be honest?

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

Roger will buy deep like 10-50$ then he will strt promoting that coin. He is not that dump he is acting like that .
BTW i think he lost most his BTC and he jumped on altcoins train too. He was promoting those alts.
I hope he will tay with that Bcash and fork away from BTC. They wanted BIG block so they have them now.

He could dump now, and buy it back later when it's lower. I think BCC will have another artificial pump somewhere next month or god knows when. But this is not the point. The point is, if you believe in what you are saying, then put your money where your mouth is.

Well he is correct that Bitcoin has limitations that Bitcoin cash will solve. Of course its easy for everyone to just dump BCC and put all of it in BTC and act all cool.

No one knows the future, if the biggest investors and if BCC becomes accepted and preferred over BTC then you wont be as cocky anymore. The biggest investors will jump the ship eventually as they have all shown support for BCC

Read above. If he believes what he says, he should have dumped already. But chances are he didn't do anything, because he's either scared to do so, or he is just promoting these hardforks to make more BTC from his cult following.

[25hashcoin]

Why are you people so obsessed with him?

[NathanJB]

...Well, BCC is BTE: ...

bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE

anyways, this is a very interesting question. all the drama and fights aside, if you think of a moment away from it all, he should have dumped it already. when you believe in your own project you invest in it. hell you go all in if you do.
i am very interested to know what did Roger do to be honest?

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

Most probably, Roger Ver dumped most of his Bitcoin Cash share already. But it does not mean he is leaving from it all. I believe he will still stick to it and will eventually buy a huge amount after the price is already very very low. That way, his coin of choice will rise again and perhaps attract more people.

[Red-Apple]

Well he is correct that Bitcoin has limitations that Bitcoin cash will solve. Of course its easy for everyone to just dump BCC and put all of it in BTC and act all cool.

No one knows the future, if the biggest investors and if BCC becomes accepted and preferred over BTC then you wont be as cocky anymore. The biggest investors will jump the ship eventually as they have all shown support for BCC

bitcoin has limitations but BCC is not solving any of them.
yes there are limiting but there is always advantages and disadvantages to anything. you are sacrificing somethings when you have those limitations and you are sacrificing some other things when you don't have those limitations.

you may think they are good but you are closing your eyes on all the negative results removing those "so called limitations" will cause.

[BeetcoinScummer]

Why are you people so obsessed with him?

Because Bitcoin Jesus turned out to be Bitcoin Judas after all.

Let's see where his "superior" BIG BLOCKS get him.

[LoudA__]

Why are you people so obsessed with him?

Well he has a lot of money coming from Bitcoin to Alternative coins, in short he is rich the reason everyone will be obsessed with him. And I think he is a bit charismatic and handsome, the reason even boys get attracted to him. Be ready Roger.

[AK47-]

Well he is correct that Bitcoin has limitations that Bitcoin cash will solve. Of course its easy for everyone to just dump BCC and put all of it in BTC and act all cool.

No one knows the future, if the biggest investors and if BCC becomes accepted and preferred over BTC then you wont be as cocky anymore. The biggest investors will jump the ship eventually as they have all shown support for BCC

bitcoin has limitations but BCC is not solving any of them.
yes there are limiting but there is always advantages and disadvantages to anything. you are sacrificing somethings when you have those limitations and you are sacrificing some other things when you don't have those limitations.

you may think they are good but you are closing your eyes on all the negative results removing those "so called limitations" will cause.

Rather these long confirmation time is doing opposite to what BCC has intended. I agree this is because of high volume of transactions. But they will loose faith this way among the holders who had some hope with BCC. BCC has nothing special to offer. It will soon be dumped to 0 value. This is all it worth.

[AK47-]

Well he is correct that Bitcoin has limitations that Bitcoin cash will solve. Of course its easy for everyone to just dump BCC and put all of it in BTC and act all cool.

No one knows the future, if the biggest investors and if BCC becomes accepted and preferred over BTC then you wont be as cocky anymore. The biggest investors will jump the ship eventually as they have all shown support for BCC

bitcoin has limitations but BCC is not solving any of them.
yes there are limiting but there is always advantages and disadvantages to anything. you are sacrificing somethings when you have those limitations and you are sacrificing some other things when you don't have those limitations.

you may think they are good but you are closing your eyes on all the negative results removing those "so called limitations" will cause.

Rather these long confirmation time is doing opposite to what BCC has intended. I agree this is because of high volume of transactions. But they will loose faith this way among the holders who had some hope with BCC. BCC has nothing special to offer. It will soon be dumped to 0 value. This is all it worth.

[eddie13]

bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE

I prefer bitchcoin..

[xdev]

...Well, BCC is BTE: ...

bitcoin cash does not even have a unique name yet. everyone calls it as they please. BCC, BCH, BCash, BCRash, BCRap and now BTE

anyways, this is a very interesting question. all the drama and fights aside, if you think of a moment away from it all, he should have dumped it already. when you believe in your own project you invest in it. hell you go all in if you do.
i am very interested to know what did Roger do to be honest?

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

Roger will buy deep like 10-50$ then he will strt promoting that coin. He is not that dump he is acting like that .
BTW i think he lost most his BTC and he jumped on altcoins train too. He was promoting those alts.
I hope he will tay with that Bcash and fork away from BTC. They wanted BIG block so they have them now.

He could dump now, and buy it back later when it's lower. I think BCC will have another artificial pump somewhere next month or god knows when. But this is not the point. The point is, if you believe in what you are saying, then put your money where your mouth is.

Well he is correct that Bitcoin has limitations that Bitcoin cash will solve. Of course its easy for everyone to just dump BCC and put all of it in BTC and act all cool.

No one knows the future, if the biggest investors and if BCC becomes accepted and preferred over BTC then you wont be as cocky anymore. The biggest investors will jump the ship eventually as they have all shown support for BCC

Read above. If he believes what he says, he should have dumped already. But chances are he didn't do anything, because he's either scared to do so, or he is just promoting these hardforks to make more BTC from his cult following.

Short answer is that he is most likely still investing, but the coin needs to stabilize and needs to attract investors and develop some functionality before its ready to enter the scene.

The value of BCC is going up and down everyday and will continue so until 99,5% of the general public has either dumped or HDOLed their coins. What did you think would happen when you give every BTC holder a free coin? 99,5% of the people who are holding coins don't give a **** about the technology. They just know that Bitcoin is THE COIN and that it will generate money. Not like anyone expected anything else, its like giving free money to a bunch of poor people and say "invest it wisely". They will spend it right away

[BitcoinHodler]

that thing between these two was more of a joke not a real thing. and i am sure nobody would dump bitcoin for BCC even Roger Ver himself. bitcoin is way too valuable, established and rising to give up. it is not a random pumped altcoin that you know is going to fall at some point. it is a solid rise which will only continue up in long term.
with BCC, it doesn't matter how good he thinks it is, the future of it is shaky at best.

[European Central Bank]

he may be rich, he probably is nuts now, he may well be stupid. but i doubt he's stupid enough to do that.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

I think Roger Ver still has a fortune in bitcoin left and except to help the fork get started would never sell all BTC for BCC. He is a smart businessman. Once BCC price is below 0.05 BTC he will start buying, increasing buys exponentially as cross rate drops. That would be the smart thing to do. He would not go all in until BCC looks on verge of taking over from BTC and we are early days yet. That's my opinion anyways but you know what they say about opinions.

[thejaytiesto]

Why are you people so obsessed with him?

Well, because he has supposedly a fuckton of bitcoins, and he has been the one using massive amounts of effort to advertise Bitcoin Cash. The least you would expect is that he sells what he says is shit, to buy his stuff which he says is great.

Why we haven't seen this yet? He wanted to make public the BTE bet by signing the keys and so on. Surely he can prove to us that he does indeed put his money where his mouth is. Everything else is excuses.

Cmon whales, where is the real money at?

[Gaius Cryptus Tradius]

Come on, i think everyone knows that Roger Ver and other people only make threat to dump all BTC, but won't do it since BTC still have bigger support and they could lose their potential profit
Or they simply wait BTC price rise and BitcoinCash price crashed in order to earn even more BitcoinCash

I think you can't control what they say and do. Or is there proof of the alleged 130k Bitcoins Wallets? Can you actually see them on the Blockchain? Then that would be interesting to see.

[crazyivan]

I m sure Roger the Coaward Ver has fulfilled his deal and gave up his BTC for this BCC shit. I m sure he did that.

[nizamcc]

that thing between these two was more of a joke not a real thing. and i am sure nobody would dump bitcoin for BCC even Roger Ver himself. bitcoin is way too valuable, established and rising to give up. it is not a random pumped altcoin that you know is going to fall at some point. it is a solid rise which will only continue up in long term.
with BCC, it doesn't matter how good he thinks it is, the future of it is shaky at best.

Well if he didn't, then what the fuck is this?
https://blockchain.info/tx/2248452e2122ff2d446565462cac276bbc8420c5874695a9b5c8e3bca8afa2b2
Are these coins moved to Ver's own wallet itself or they sold them for BCC?
We should ask that whether they dumped their "BCC" for BTC at exchanges yet?

[BitcoinHodler]

Come on, i think everyone knows that Roger Ver and other people only make threat to dump all BTC, ...

threat? more like good news.
to be honest anyone that is fearing instead of celebrating a "threat to dump bitcoin by a whale" is a total idiot.

i mean think about it. if a whale holding what 30K-300K bitcoin or something dumps what does it really mean?
i'll tell you what it means. that means before the big whale idiot dumped, it was 1 person holding 0.14%-1.42% of total bitcoin and now that amount is well distributed among hundreds of people.

i'll take a better distribution over the temporary price dropping any day...

[BitHodler]

I m sure Roger the Coaward Ver has fulfilled his deal and gave up his BTC for this BCC shit. I m sure he did that.

I hope he ends up converting all his BTC holdings into BCC, because the lower his BTC wealth is, the lower his overall power reach is ~ everyone knows that his financial status is the only thing that keeps him up high.

That being said, I have noticed an accumulation pattern happening through various exchanges. It's either a group of whales preparing for a massive pump, or maybe the people behind BCC themselves.

[Kprawn]

We are giving Roger Ver too much attention and he thrives on attention. Leave him and his followers to do their thing and if

they want to support a Alt coins, let them do that. If they want to back a new Alt coin and dump millions into that, let them

do that. We concentrate on Bitcoin and we make a success of that. They forked off.... so be it.  

[pereira4]

that thing between these two was more of a joke not a real thing. and i am sure nobody would dump bitcoin for BCC even Roger Ver himself. bitcoin is way too valuable, established and rising to give up. it is not a random pumped altcoin that you know is going to fall at some point. it is a solid rise which will only continue up in long term.
with BCC, it doesn't matter how good he thinks it is, the future of it is shaky at best.

Well if he didn't, then what the fuck is this?
https://blockchain.info/tx/2248452e2122ff2d446565462cac276bbc8420c5874695a9b5c8e3bca8afa2b2
Are these coins moved to Ver's own wallet itself or they sold them for BCC?
We should ask that whether they dumped their "BCC" for BTC at exchanges yet?

What are those?

According to this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

Looks like this links back to the Loaded-Ver thread and these are Loaded's coins, not Ver's.

So looks like Loaded moved all these coins into another address and no additional information on this move is to be found as far as I can tell.

[Slark]

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

And this is only the beginning of dumping of BCC, when people will realize that there is no danger and they can dump their secondary stock of BCC they will do this for sure.
Also, we might need some more exchanges to support this altcoin too, so - these two facts (BCC exchanges + belief that your BTC won't be affected) will create dumping scenario like we haven't seen before.
I expect that price of BCC will reach $100 soon and then it might not be the end.

[xdev]

meanwhile: $2650 to $3200 versus $700 to $240

And this is only the beginning of dumping of BCC, when people will realize that there is no danger and they can dump their secondary stock of BCC they will do this for sure.
Also, we might need some more exchanges to support this altcoin too, so - these two facts (BCC exchanges + belief that your BTC won't be affected) will create dumping scenario like we haven't seen before.
I expect that price of BCC will reach $100 soon and then it might not be the end.

I don't think anyone believes that BCC is at current worth ~230 USD per coin. It needs to prove itself and stand the test of time.

Obviously most people will dump it because they get if for free and they see no use for it right now. BCCs survival is all about getting support equal to that of Bitcoin.

If the coin gets rolling and if it gets supported like Bitcoin is then we'll probably see a big change in the market. But until then, it will continue to dump until it reaches a point where people think its now worth investing into

[Intutan]

he may be rich, he probably is nuts now, he may well be stupid. but i doubt he's stupid enough to do that.

I think he is still the richest person in the bitcoin world and he is even richer today after the big rise.

[IIOII]

If the coin gets rolling and if it gets supported like Bitcoin is then we'll probably see a big change in the market. But until then, it will continue to dump until it reaches a point where people think its now worth investing into

Your wisdom is self-explanatory.

BCH will continue to drop sharply (with wild fluctuations), because its utility and security is inferior to Bitcoin and so far only a tiny fraction of the "free coins" have been sold for BTC. No one needs yet another altcoin.

[xdev]

If the coin gets rolling and if it gets supported like Bitcoin is then we'll probably see a big change in the market. But until then, it will continue to dump until it reaches a point where people think its now worth investing into

Your wisdom is self-explanatory.

BCH will continue to drop sharply (with wild fluctuations), because its utility and security is inferior to Bitcoin and so far only a tiny fraction of the "free coins" have been sold for BTC. No one needs yet another altcoin.

If you say so. But even Bitcoin is only scratching at the surface of the possibilities of cryptocurrency and blockchain technology. Alts will continue to enter the cryptoscene and people will buy and sell until we finally have a winner. Bitcoin could be the winner, but it also has flaws and limitations, hence why we have alts in the first place. If BCH gain support and functionality then you will see alot of people hopping on the bandwagon. Because as I've already said before, the vast majority don't care about the technology, they know that Bitcoin = money = HODL. Its easy for them to jump train

[eaLiTy]

Why are you people so obsessed with him?

Well, because he has supposedly a fuckton of bitcoins, and he has been the one using massive amounts of effort to advertise Bitcoin Cash. The least you would expect is that he sells what he says is shit, to buy his stuff which he says is great.

He does have a shit ton of coins and he was advertising about bitcoin cash ,but that does not mean that he will be dumping all his coins right now,he is a smart individual and even if he sells some,he wont be going to dump all of his coins for any other coin ,the market just started and we could talk about this after an year and see what the market is for bitcoin and bitcoin cash.

[nizamcc]

that thing between these two was more of a joke not a real thing. and i am sure nobody would dump bitcoin for BCC even Roger Ver himself. bitcoin is way too valuable, established and rising to give up. it is not a random pumped altcoin that you know is going to fall at some point. it is a solid rise which will only continue up in long term.
with BCC, it doesn't matter how good he thinks it is, the future of it is shaky at best.

Well if he didn't, then what the fuck is this?
https://blockchain.info/tx/2248452e2122ff2d446565462cac276bbc8420c5874695a9b5c8e3bca8afa2b2
Are these coins moved to Ver's own wallet itself or they sold them for BCC?
We should ask that whether they dumped their "BCC" for BTC at exchanges yet?

What are those?

According to this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60ozkh/rogerver_lets_make_a_deal_1_for_1_trade_at_least/

Looks like this links back to the Loaded-Ver thread and these are Loaded's coins, not Ver's.

So looks like Loaded moved all these coins into another address and no additional information on this move is to be found as far as I can tell.

Looks like you are correct because neither Loaded nor Roger Ver declared anything about this transaction.
And sometimes I also think that Roger Ver is not that stupid to go all in with his BTC for BCC's support or we could have seen some moves in BCC which is getting dumped daily. I don't know why they come up with such techy ideas that frustrate and create FUD amongst the whole community? What difference did they create after launching BCC? Didn't even show an 8 mb block yet.

[andrew24p]

He made a claim saying that he has dumped btc in the 1000s for bcash, but who knows what he actually did. He still has much much more bitcoin so well never really get rid of him in my opinion.