[BOUNTY][ICO] REAL - The bounty campaign is over, no more reports will be accept

[ccsang]

Hey there. Is the stake count for translation campaign final? Stake count for thread moderation was not added, thats why I am asking.

The bounty campaign is over.
Next week we will distribute the tokens

I mean I am aware that the campaign is over, the only thing I am wondering about is if you wont count the thread moderation stakes which were not added on the spreadsheet.

There are not stakes for thread moderation

"Moderation: 5 stakes for each post.
(No spammy or simple short messages like "Very cool" "I love it" "Can't wait". Messages should be elaborated and interesting for the community.)"

Was this changed?

Nobody sent me any report

Funny, I'm join social bounty campaign since manager start bounty thread, I saw my some detail at spreadsheet ( don't include my twitter account info, no idea why) , thread don't said that need to report, but you said that need to send report to you after bounty campaign ended ,  how do I check back more than 1 month rt
Bounty manager better check other bounty thread, they will clearly to us no need report/ every week report at bounty thread/ every week report through google form

Finally , bounty manager already remove my detail in spreadsheet ( check today)
Too many complaint right now , better don't treat us like this lol ( after collect a lot of $$$ through ico )
 

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[miguel_covas]

Where is my name in spreadsheet?I joined social media campaign.

Hi dbsahin,

You did not send any report, so I'm just keeping the people who has stakes

[miguel_covas]

guys, remember my word, if i will receive 125 real for my translation work. i will send back to the address i will receive from!i

125 for translation? Heh some guys with Twitter more lucky. Unfortunately it looks like true

Exactly, people who has partipated in Social media campaign seems to be lucky with this decision, but the truth is they have been working a lot and sending reports every week.

What campaign have you participated larks500?

What is this??? Really this is the final decision of REAL's project devs?

Do you think 125 token = ~ 125 $ or under this value is enough for a translation?

If Devs want to distribution more than 30k tokens for social campaign while other campaign also work very hard (I'm a signature member), this is very unfair and I will say this project is a scammer, I do not trust a huge project as REAL token can does that, because I believe this project will do not change much reward when they can not sold all token.

If you want to see the decision of other project, I can send you a proof, because in past time I was also joined a project can not sold out its token. That is Opus project and you can see their decision at here:

First decision is change reward like your project (want to decrease our reward, a decision of an unprofessional, like a scammer): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011082.msg21230782#msg21230782
But then, after heard our explain and dispute, they understand this is their mistake and solved to old reward like first said: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011082.msg21265509#msg21265509

About the salary, I do not tell about my salary because I want to explain first. The salary normal for a translation usually higher than 1,000 $. You also can see Opus token, only an ANN thread, at least salary is more than 26,000 OPT token, if convert to ICO price is higher than 1,000 $ and current price ~700 $. Check the salary of translator from Opus campaign at here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dXhW4K9uKhfutLArWOLe2LnMd-2qVkmimP0o9Ve4bSM/edit#gid=0

But especially, REAL's project devs did not reserve any permission to change bounty reward if they can not sold out their token, if they have a word at first, ok I will accept because this is my bad decision before join to this campaign. Example, if you are a worker as me, do you think this decision is fair for you? Do you think a decision to change reward after completed crowdsale is a professional work?

Finally, I hope Devs can consider about their decision, I do not want to receive a bad salary as ~ 300 $ for my work while I can join to other project and earn more than $ 1000 (but I did not do that because I want to stay here and support REAL project).

*Note: I suggest devs can change total supply token for bounty campaign and distribution as this word:

A total of 100,000 REAL tokens (aprox. 100,000 USD) allocated for the whole bounty program lasting perhaps less than a month which will be divided as follows:

20% Social Media Campaign: Telegram, Slack, Twitter, Facebook
20% Reddit Campaign
20% Translation and Community Manager
20% Signature Campaign
20% Real Meetups in your town/city

Example if devs want to distribution 50,000 token, it means we will receive a half our salary, but it is fair because I understand REAL project can not sold much tokens. I do not want a signature member or a translator will receive a salary worse than a "spammer" twitter!

Regards!

Hi Andre#,

As I told you yesterday, we thought that it was a good decision for all, after the ICO results.
But after read your post I would think about other possible tokens distribution

[chilly9876]

I'm  more concerned that this is going to carry on being discussed. I'd much rather have my tokens, I feel this time next week i will still be waiting.

[chilly9876]

Just give Reddit, Translation and meetups x 3 coins. And please distribute the coins.

[xOdiumNostrumx]

I think that the general consensus of the fairest distribution would be 20% for every campaign, as promised in the beginning. Every participant signed up for those terms and holds the responsibility for his actions that have been done during the campaign.

[Smolko]

guys, remember my word, if i will receive 125 real for my translation work. i will send back to the address i will receive from!i

125 for translation? Heh some guys with Twitter more lucky. Unfortunately it looks like true

Exactly, people who has partipated in Social media campaign seems to be lucky with this decision, but the truth is they have been working a lot and sending reports every week.

What campaign have you participated larks500?

What is this??? Really this is the final decision of REAL's project devs?

Do you think 125 token = ~ 125 $ or under this value is enough for a translation?

If Devs want to distribution more than 30k tokens for social campaign while other campaign also work very hard (I'm a signature member), this is very unfair and I will say this project is a scammer, I do not trust a huge project as REAL token can does that, because I believe this project will do not change much reward when they can not sold all token.

If you want to see the decision of other project, I can send you a proof, because in past time I was also joined a project can not sold out its token. That is Opus project and you can see their decision at here:

First decision is change reward like your project (want to decrease our reward, a decision of an unprofessional, like a scammer): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011082.msg21230782#msg21230782
But then, after heard our explain and dispute, they understand this is their mistake and solved to old reward like first said: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011082.msg21265509#msg21265509

About the salary, I do not tell about my salary because I want to explain first. The salary normal for a translation usually higher than 1,000 $. You also can see Opus token, only an ANN thread, at least salary is more than 26,000 OPT token, if convert to ICO price is higher than 1,000 $ and current price ~700 $. Check the salary of translator from Opus campaign at here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dXhW4K9uKhfutLArWOLe2LnMd-2qVkmimP0o9Ve4bSM/edit#gid=0

But especially, REAL's project devs did not reserve any permission to change bounty reward if they can not sold out their token, if they have a word at first, ok I will accept because this is my bad decision before join to this campaign. Example, if you are a worker as me, do you think this decision is fair for you? Do you think a decision to change reward after completed crowdsale is a professional work?

Finally, I hope Devs can consider about their decision, I do not want to receive a bad salary as ~ 300 $ for my work while I can join to other project and earn more than $ 1000 (but I did not do that because I want to stay here and support REAL project).

*Note: I suggest devs can change total supply token for bounty campaign and distribution as this word:

A total of 100,000 REAL tokens (aprox. 100,000 USD) allocated for the whole bounty program lasting perhaps less than a month which will be divided as follows:

20% Social Media Campaign: Telegram, Slack, Twitter, Facebook
20% Reddit Campaign
20% Translation and Community Manager
20% Signature Campaign
20% Real Meetups in your town/city

Example if devs want to distribution 50,000 token, it means we will receive a half our salary, but it is fair because I understand REAL project can not sold much tokens. I do not want a signature member or a translator will receive a salary worse than a "spammer" twitter!

Regards!

Hi Andre#,

As I told you yesterday, we thought that it was a good decision for all, after the ICO results.
But after read your post I would think about other possible tokens distribution

We all understand that you have to cut the bounty campaign but please keep atleast the distribution per campaign, it makes no sense to move all the percentage to the social campaign ( previously 20% and now about 70-80%) and cut the percentage from the other campaings from 20% to 2-5%.

You mentioned that you are going to distribute 44.000 Tokens why dont split them fairly on all campaings so each campaign will receive 20%.

[ahmedjadoon]

This is a clear definition of a scam if they cut the promised bounty. I request all members to report them to forum administration and submit negative trust to the scammers Melissa and Miguel

[ahmedjadoon]

guys, remember my word, if i will receive 125 real for my translation work. i will send back to the address i will receive from!i

125 for translation? Heh some guys with Twitter more lucky. Unfortunately it looks like true

Exactly, people who has partipated in Social media campaign seems to be lucky with this decision, but the truth is they have been working a lot and sending reports every week.

What campaign have you participated larks500?

What is this??? Really this is the final decision of REAL's project devs?

Do you think 125 token = ~ 125 $ or under this value is enough for a translation?

If Devs want to distribution more than 30k tokens for social campaign while other campaign also work very hard (I'm a signature member), this is very unfair and I will say this project is a scammer, I do not trust a huge project as REAL token can does that, because I believe this project will do not change much reward when they can not sold all token.

If you want to see the decision of other project, I can send you a proof, because in past time I was also joined a project can not sold out its token. That is Opus project and you can see their decision at here:

First decision is change reward like your project (want to decrease our reward, a decision of an unprofessional, like a scammer): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011082.msg21230782#msg21230782
But then, after heard our explain and dispute, they understand this is their mistake and solved to old reward like first said: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011082.msg21265509#msg21265509

About the salary, I do not tell about my salary because I want to explain first. The salary normal for a translation usually higher than 1,000 $. You also can see Opus token, only an ANN thread, at least salary is more than 26,000 OPT token, if convert to ICO price is higher than 1,000 $ and current price ~700 $. Check the salary of translator from Opus campaign at here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dXhW4K9uKhfutLArWOLe2LnMd-2qVkmimP0o9Ve4bSM/edit#gid=0

But especially, REAL's project devs did not reserve any permission to change bounty reward if they can not sold out their token, if they have a word at first, ok I will accept because this is my bad decision before join to this campaign. Example, if you are a worker as me, do you think this decision is fair for you? Do you think a decision to change reward after completed crowdsale is a professional work?

Finally, I hope Devs can consider about their decision, I do not want to receive a bad salary as ~ 300 $ for my work while I can join to other project and earn more than $ 1000 (but I did not do that because I want to stay here and support REAL project).

*Note: I suggest devs can change total supply token for bounty campaign and distribution as this word:

A total of 100,000 REAL tokens (aprox. 100,000 USD) allocated for the whole bounty program lasting perhaps less than a month which will be divided as follows:

20% Social Media Campaign: Telegram, Slack, Twitter, Facebook
20% Reddit Campaign
20% Translation and Community Manager
20% Signature Campaign
20% Real Meetups in your town/city

Example if devs want to distribution 50,000 token, it means we will receive a half our salary, but it is fair because I understand REAL project can not sold much tokens. I do not want a signature member or a translator will receive a salary worse than a "spammer" twitter!

Regards!

Hi Andre#,

As I told you yesterday, we thought that it was a good decision for all, after the ICO results.
But after read your post I would think about other possible tokens distribution

You guys raised ~$10 mllion in ICO and can't even afford $0.1 million for bounty. This is the stupidest excuse I even heard.

[dipok07]

when pay bounty campaign.....

[won99]

Hello dev, When the spreedsheet for bounty campaign will be be updated. I mean stakes earned per real token?

Hello jerlen17,

We will do it this week.

Hi, I have checked my reward REAL token from signature campagin (converted from stake to REAL token) and I think we have mistaken at here.
I remember we use stake and total token for signature campaign is 20,000 tokens. (20% of total 100,000 tokens for bounty campaign).

Now, we have total stake of all member signature campaign = 5472 stake

=> 20000/5472= ~3.65 token/stake

Example if I have 380 stake, my token from signature campaign is = 3.65 x 380 = 1387 REAL token.

I hope reward counted now only a temporary from manager, if it really a mistake, please fixed it help us, thanks!

Hi miguel,,
 That  is an example of how to calculate the right stake, hopefully you can learn from your mistakes.

No story in this forum bounty social media bigger than signature campaign,,, if you do not believe you can see project  which in this forum.
you can reflect on the manager bounty jamalaezaz ,, irfan_pak ,, sylon. is the reliable manager of this forum

[chilly9876]

The bounty said 100,000 they didn't stipulate that its subject to change so why should we settle for less?

I'd understand if the total amount for bounty ended as mor than 2% of tokens sold but it hasn't. So I expect my full bounty reward. Simple as that.

[ccsang]

Where is my name in spreadsheet?I joined social media campaign.

Hi dbsahin,

You did not send any report, so I'm just keeping the people who has stakes

Ok now I sent report?

I joined twitter,Facebook,Telegram,Slack.

Me too , I joined twitter,Facebook,Telegram,Slack , I'm already from spreadsheet by bounty manager , no idea why , My reward become 0 real token ...

[tiggytomb]

It is pretty poor when things are changed after the fact, if there was at least a caveat in the OP to say "depending on final ICO results we reserve the right to adjust the % accordingly" or something like this it would have been a bit easier to swallow.

Everyone joined in good faith and were promoting REAL expecting to be a part of the project with what was promised, understanding that less may have been raised but still not sticking to the original agreement is quite poor and doesn't give the best impression before anything is even launched, especially when there is a whopping 80% to social media participants.

Is sticking to the original % and amount of tokens really not possible? will it hurt more by doing this or by having a lot of unhappy people talking negatively about what is an actually very good project.

You can obviously do as you wish but there are a lot of unhappy people.

[miguel_covas]

when pay bounty campaign.....

This week

[miguel_covas]

Where is my name in spreadsheet?I joined social media campaign.

Hi dbsahin,

You did not send any report, so I'm just keeping the people who has stakes

Ok now I sent report?

I joined twitter,Facebook,Telegram,Slack.

Me too , I joined twitter,Facebook,Telegram,Slack , I'm already from spreadsheet by bounty manager , no idea why , My reward become 0 real token ...

Because you did not send me any reports during the campaign

[miguel_covas]

It is pretty poor when things are changed after the fact, if there was at least a caveat in the OP to say "depending on final ICO results we reserve the right to adjust the % accordingly" or something like this it would have been a bit easier to swallow.

Everyone joined in good faith and were promoting REAL expecting to be a part of the project with what was promised, understanding that less may have been raised but still not sticking to the original agreement is quite poor and doesn't give the best impression before anything is even launched, especially when there is a whopping 80% to social media participants.

Is sticking to the original % and amount of tokens really not possible? will it hurt more by doing this or by having a lot of unhappy people talking negatively about what is an actually very good project.

You can obviously do as you wish but there are a lot of unhappy people.

hi may i ask you where did you based your bounty pool? is this from the amount of the tokens sold after the ico or from the total supply?
what is the soft cap will not be achieve, is this mean that there will no longer bounty distribution?

Hi ashuawei,

It depends from the amount of tokens sold after ico.
There will be always bounty distribution! No matter what cap is reach.

[salonrambut1]

joined social media campaign,thanks.

[tiggytomb]

It is pretty poor when things are changed after the fact, if there was at least a caveat in the OP to say "depending on final ICO results we reserve the right to adjust the % accordingly" or something like this it would have been a bit easier to swallow.

Everyone joined in good faith and were promoting REAL expecting to be a part of the project with what was promised, understanding that less may have been raised but still not sticking to the original agreement is quite poor and doesn't give the best impression before anything is even launched, especially when there is a whopping 80% to social media participants.

Is sticking to the original % and amount of tokens really not possible? will it hurt more by doing this or by having a lot of unhappy people talking negatively about what is an actually very good project.

You can obviously do as you wish but there are a lot of unhappy people.

hi may i ask you where did you based your bounty pool? is this from the amount of the tokens sold after the ico or from the total supply?
what is the soft cap will not be achieve, is this mean that there will no longer bounty distribution?

Hi ashuawei,

It depends from the amount of tokens sold after ico.
There will be always bounty distribution! No matter what cap is reach.

I saw that and I understand that there were far more people part of the social campaign than there were anywhere else so to make it fair to all you have made adjustments, I just think it should have been stated in the OP clearly for all to see and understand. 

I'm okay with whatever comes my way but just for future instances I would suggest making every little thing clear as a bell at the start.

[miguel_covas]

It is pretty poor when things are changed after the fact, if there was at least a caveat in the OP to say "depending on final ICO results we reserve the right to adjust the % accordingly" or something like this it would have been a bit easier to swallow.

Everyone joined in good faith and were promoting REAL expecting to be a part of the project with what was promised, understanding that less may have been raised but still not sticking to the original agreement is quite poor and doesn't give the best impression before anything is even launched, especially when there is a whopping 80% to social media participants.

Is sticking to the original % and amount of tokens really not possible? will it hurt more by doing this or by having a lot of unhappy people talking negatively about what is an actually very good project.

You can obviously do as you wish but there are a lot of unhappy people.

hi may i ask you where did you based your bounty pool? is this from the amount of the tokens sold after the ico or from the total supply?
what is the soft cap will not be achieve, is this mean that there will no longer bounty distribution?

Hi ashuawei,

It depends from the amount of tokens sold after ico.
There will be always bounty distribution! No matter what cap is reach.

I saw that and I understand that there were far more people part of the social campaign than there were anywhere else so to make it fair to all you have made adjustments, I just think it should have been stated in the OP clearly for all to see and understand. 

I'm okay with whatever comes my way but just for future instances I would suggest making every little thing clear as a bell at the start.

I totally agree with you, but it is the first time that I deal with a campaign like this and from what I see, there are people who at the very least find it very easy to insult a team that tries to make the best possible decision.