OddEvenBets.com - Winning 198%, House edge 1%, Provably fair

[OddEvenBets.com]

What you expect from this site, first of all what I can say about this site is, this is likely one man job which is probably he funds his bankroll from his own pocket so he will never get profit from it. And this game is much probably the reason why he is really hard to get it on. I just amaze on how he survive on this project so long, many of them already drop out from this long ago

And I think they can still start from a scratch but change it to dice game because I saw many dice sites that start from scratch and eventually they get to be big, you can see bitsler for example

You are right. I have not team and I funding from my pocket. Thanks for explain about dice.
I will try run this game but need time for it.

[OddEvenBets.com]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

[panjul07]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

What do you mean by dice game with low fee? Does it mean that the dice game will be an onchain game as well? Sorry to ask, but I have no idea about "low fee dice game" as what I know is that there is no fees on usual dice game.
If you are going to make onchain dice game then the result will be the same as what you have so far (low traffic). Dice game is popular as off chain game. Low bets is also usual thing in dice game because most dice sites lets their player to bet as low as possible (1 satoshi).
Sorry if I misunderstans your post.

[adaseb]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

What do you mean by dice game with low fee? Does it mean that the dice game will be an onchain game as well? Sorry to ask, but I have no idea about "low fee dice game" as what I know is that there is no fees on usual dice game.
If you are going to make onchain dice game then the result will be the same as what you have so far (low traffic). Dice game is popular as off chain game. Low bets is also usual thing in dice game because most dice sites lets their player to bet as low as possible (1 satoshi).
Sorry if I misunderstans your post.

I am pretty sure he means that it will be exactly like it is right now except with a fixed odds it will be variable which is decided by the user. Basically right now its 50/50 since its odd and even. If some user chooses 90% win rate then the outcome will still come from the hash which is by the mined block. Its very possible to do this with dice however whether anyone will play is another issue.

Basically most on-chain betting platforms have died off in Jan/Feb 2018 due to the huge bitcoin transaction fees. There was a popular binary betting website called something like "SecondsTrades" and it was all onchain and it basically died off due to nobody wanting to pay the huge bitcoin transaction fees both ways.

Onchain betting was more popular when bitcoin casinos weren't accepting XMR because privacy was the main concern. Now that many sites accept XMR then there is no need really for onchain anonymous betting. 

[OddEvenBets.com]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

What do you mean by dice game with low fee? Does it mean that the dice game will be an onchain game as well? Sorry to ask, but I have no idea about "low fee dice game" as what I know is that there is no fees on usual dice game.
If you are going to make onchain dice game then the result will be the same as what you have so far (low traffic). Dice game is popular as off chain game. Low bets is also usual thing in dice game because most dice sites lets their player to bet as low as possible (1 satoshi).
Sorry if I misunderstans your post.

No, I mean low fees in my old game on blockchain based.
Dice will be off chain I will try this type of game, may be I will get success.
1 satoshi? It's very low bet.

[adaseb]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

What do you mean by dice game with low fee? Does it mean that the dice game will be an onchain game as well? Sorry to ask, but I have no idea about "low fee dice game" as what I know is that there is no fees on usual dice game.
If you are going to make onchain dice game then the result will be the same as what you have so far (low traffic). Dice game is popular as off chain game. Low bets is also usual thing in dice game because most dice sites lets their player to bet as low as possible (1 satoshi).
Sorry if I misunderstans your post.

No, I mean low fees in my old game on blockchain based.
Dice will be off chain I will try this type of game, may be I will get success.
1 satoshi? It's very low bet.

I have an idea how you can actually get interest with your dice game and keep it "sort of" onchain, and the answer is the Lightning Network.

No idea if you will be able to set a bet as low as 1 satoshi but the fees should be very low compared to the onchain bets you are accepting now.

You would be one of the first gambling sites which is on the lightning network and you won't have much competition at first. And it would attract many people because alot of people haven't tried the lightning network yet and would be excited to try it out on a dice lightning network site, let me know what you think of the idea?

[panjul07]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

What do you mean by dice game with low fee? Does it mean that the dice game will be an onchain game as well? Sorry to ask, but I have no idea about "low fee dice game" as what I know is that there is no fees on usual dice game.
If you are going to make onchain dice game then the result will be the same as what you have so far (low traffic). Dice game is popular as off chain game. Low bets is also usual thing in dice game because most dice sites lets their player to bet as low as possible (1 satoshi).
Sorry if I misunderstans your post.

No, I mean low fees in my old game on blockchain based.
Dice will be off chain I will try this type of game, may be I will get success.
1 satoshi? It's very low bet.

I have an idea how you can actually get interest with your dice game and keep it "sort of" onchain, and the answer is the Lightning Network.

No idea if you will be able to set a bet as low as 1 satoshi but the fees should be very low compared to the onchain bets you are accepting now.

You would be one of the first gambling sites which is on the lightning network and you won't have much competition at first. And it would attract many people because alot of people haven't tried the lightning network yet and would be excited to try it out on a dice lightning network site, let me know what you think of the idea?

In his case, lightning network may help to run on chain dice game but IMO it could be a big problem instead of attractive thing as not all people understand about it. At least ut will be hard in the beginning, as it requires to learn about how lightning network works. And I'm sure most people will still stick on a usual dice game because of the simplicity.

[OddEvenBets.com]

Hello, friends!

I have launched DICE game.
Please test, if you find bug, please tell me know.

http://oddevenbets.com/dice/

Thanks!

[OddEvenBets.com]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

What do you mean by dice game with low fee? Does it mean that the dice game will be an onchain game as well? Sorry to ask, but I have no idea about "low fee dice game" as what I know is that there is no fees on usual dice game.
If you are going to make onchain dice game then the result will be the same as what you have so far (low traffic). Dice game is popular as off chain game. Low bets is also usual thing in dice game because most dice sites lets their player to bet as low as possible (1 satoshi).
Sorry if I misunderstans your post.

No, I mean low fees in my old game on blockchain based.
Dice will be off chain I will try this type of game, may be I will get success.
1 satoshi? It's very low bet.

I have an idea how you can actually get interest with your dice game and keep it "sort of" onchain, and the answer is the Lightning Network.

No idea if you will be able to set a bet as low as 1 satoshi but the fees should be very low compared to the onchain bets you are accepting now.

You would be one of the first gambling sites which is on the lightning network and you won't have much competition at first. And it would attract many people because alot of people haven't tried the lightning network yet and would be excited to try it out on a dice lightning network site, let me know what you think of the idea?

Idea with Lightning Network is good. I think is not popular in this time. I will learn how works LN node, may be try switch game to LN.
You can test my dice game here http://oddevenbets.com/dice/
Thanks!

[adaseb]

I will run dice game soon.
Everyone can try luck in my old game.
Chance to win 1/2. Low bets and low fee.
http://oddevenbets.com
This is easy blockchain based game.

What do you mean by dice game with low fee? Does it mean that the dice game will be an onchain game as well? Sorry to ask, but I have no idea about "low fee dice game" as what I know is that there is no fees on usual dice game.
If you are going to make onchain dice game then the result will be the same as what you have so far (low traffic). Dice game is popular as off chain game. Low bets is also usual thing in dice game because most dice sites lets their player to bet as low as possible (1 satoshi).
Sorry if I misunderstans your post.

No, I mean low fees in my old game on blockchain based.
Dice will be off chain I will try this type of game, may be I will get success.
1 satoshi? It's very low bet.

I have an idea how you can actually get interest with your dice game and keep it "sort of" onchain, and the answer is the Lightning Network.

No idea if you will be able to set a bet as low as 1 satoshi but the fees should be very low compared to the onchain bets you are accepting now.

You would be one of the first gambling sites which is on the lightning network and you won't have much competition at first. And it would attract many people because alot of people haven't tried the lightning network yet and would be excited to try it out on a dice lightning network site, let me know what you think of the idea?

Idea with Lightning Network is good. I think is not popular in this time. I will learn how works LN node, may be try switch game to LN.
You can test my dice game here http://oddevenbets.com/dice/
Thanks!

I tested out the site, it looks good. Basically like any regular type of dice site. The issue is to make it different than the rest.

This is why I think if you allow LN payments into the dice site, you will be one of the first type of gambling sites which is on LN. You can promote it this way, and there is nothing wrong with the site but over 99% of all bitcoin gambling sites are already dice. Most just play dice on the major dice sites anyways these days.

Try to learn the LN and launch it that way. Many different news sites will pick it up and you will get free publicity. These days people are crazy about the LN. Some even order stickers that they don't need just to test out the network.

[BTCevo]

Hello, friends!

I have launched DICE game.
Please test, if you find bug, please tell me know.

http://oddevenbets.com/dice/

Thanks!

It is a great thing to have pretty basic dice game, it is really good progress to have some dice site here. But at first I have the connection time out problem. And after some period of time, I can access but it seems lag but there is standard graphic, I do not know what is the problem here. And btw may I know about the bankroll? Since on your odds and even bet game, you guys have pretty low max bet there, wondering about this dice game

[panjul07]

Hello, friends!

I have launched DICE game.
Please test, if you find bug, please tell me know.

http://oddevenbets.com/dice/

Thanks!

It is a great thing to have pretty basic dice game, it is really good progress to have some dice site here. But at first I have the connection time out problem. And after some period of time, I can access but it seems lag but there is standard graphic, I do not know what is the problem here. And btw may I know about the bankroll? Since on your odds and even bet game, you guys have pretty low max bet there, wondering about this dice game

The bankroll must be the same as he is funding it lonely. So do not hope too much about bankroll. If the oddeven games has 0.001 max bet then the dice game would be similar. It can be a bit higher or even lower than 0.001btc. Unless he found investors already. 

[Betwrong]

Hello, friends!

I have launched DICE game.
Please test, if you find bug, please tell me know.

http://oddevenbets.com/dice/

Thanks!

I just tested your dice game. I like how the site looks and it's good that it's very easy to start playing without any registration process. I remember PrimeDice was starting like that, but they were attracting players with the faucet where the amount you can claim was rising with every bet made, if I'm not mistaken. Well, maybe it was rising every 10 bets, please correct me someone who knows exactly, but I remember how I was amazed by that, and you could claim the faucet every two minutes or so. But it was long time ago and maybe there were not as many abusers as today, so I don't blame you for setting minimal giveaway frequency to 3600 seconds. I think giving 50 sats per hour for trying the site is the right decision as of today.

I suggest you to add a button "1/2" next to "2x" because it is very convenient for players to have an opportunity to halve the bet amount right away, and I think that's why all the dice sites I know have that button. Another suggestion is to move the MAX button some place where it couldn't be hit by mistake or at least make a pop up window with a warning when the MAX button is hit. Also, you should maybe add a chatbox, dicers love chatting.

[OddEvenBets.com]

My dice was been hacked Player_130.
He stole 0.008 BTC to 3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
Thief wallet address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
IP Address                   Country                   Region   City
81.132.251.149     United Kingdom    England   Wooler
ISP                                                           Latitude   Longitude
British Telecommunications PLC              55.5476   -2.0119

How to refund my BTC?

[Betwrong]

My dice was been hacked Player_130.
He stole 0.008 BTC to 3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
Thief wallet address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
IP Address                   Country                   Region   City
81.132.251.149     United Kingdom    England   Wooler
ISP                                                           Latitude   Longitude
British Telecommunications PLC              55.5476   -2.0119

How to refund my BTC?

If the amount was bigger, I mean more than 100 times bigger, then theoretically the British police could help you. They could initiate a criminal case, get a warrant and then ask British Telecommunications to provide them with all the info they need on the thief. But I really doubt they would bother if $50 were stolen. I'm sorry for your loss, but it will hardly be refunded.

What did you mean by "hacked" btw? As I can see, Player_130 was winning 500 sats every minute or so, playing with 49.50% win chance. Are you sure he hacked your game? Because he could be just lucky, it's not so rare when people win $50 playing dice in one day.

[panjul07]

My dice was been hacked Player_130.
He stole 0.008 BTC to 3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
Thief wallet address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
IP Address                   Country                   Region   City
81.132.251.149     United Kingdom    England   Wooler
ISP                                                           Latitude   Longitude
British Telecommunications PLC              55.5476   -2.0119

How to refund my BTC?

I have said about it previously that the script you use is a well known script with bunch of bugs. It could be one of the bug found by the player, so he could win easily from your game or take your bankroll directly. Obviously there is no way to refund your btc unless the player willing to send it back to you. Sorry for your lost, at least it is a lesson learning for you to be more careful with dice script that you buy/get it for free.

[OddEvenBets.com]

My dice was been hacked Player_130.
He stole 0.008 BTC to 3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
Thief wallet address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3H4PKtSX6CEZUwDNyT3VMvmHom9YHMKht2
IP Address                   Country                   Region   City
81.132.251.149     United Kingdom    England   Wooler
ISP                                                           Latitude   Longitude
British Telecommunications PLC              55.5476   -2.0119

How to refund my BTC?

If the amount was bigger, I mean more than 100 times bigger, then theoretically the British police could help you. They could initiate a criminal case, get a warrant and then ask British Telecommunications to provide them with all the info they need on the thief. But I really doubt they would bother if $50 were stolen. I'm sorry for your loss, but it will hardly be refunded.

What did you mean by "hacked" btw? As I can see, Player_130 was winning 500 sats every minute or so, playing with 49.50% win chance. Are you sure he hacked your game? Because he could be just lucky, it's not so rare when people win $50 playing dice in one day.

This is not lucky..
I mean "hacked".. he does not made deposit. He use faucet 50 satoshi and placed bets higher then his deposit.
He won few bets only and balance was been 0 BUT HE WITHDRAW 0.008 BTC.

Last bets

Code:

5317	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:22:45	0.0000001 BTC	        2.00x	<49.50	64.24	-0.00000010
5316	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:22:43	0.00000005 BTC	2.00x	<49.50	6.72	+0.00000005
5315	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:48	0.00000324 BTC	100.00x	<0.99	29.21	-0.00000324
5314	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:45	0.00000814 BTC	100.00x	<0.99	58.61	-0.00000814
5313	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:30	0.000008 BTC	        100.00x	<0.99	93.75	-0.00000800
5312	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:29	0.000008 BTC	        100.00x	<0.99	41.88	-0.00000800
5311	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:24	0.000007 BTC	        100.00x	<0.99	83.59	-0.00000700
5310	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:23	0.000007 BTC     	100.00x	<0.99	23.02	-0.00000700
5309	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:22	0.000007 BTC     	100.00x	<0.99	62.69	-0.00000700
5308	Player_130	2018-11-13    00:10:21	0.000007 BTC     	100.00x	<0.99	5.24	-0.00000700

I found this bug..

[adaseb]

This is the issue with using those general dice game scripts. They are free or cheap to buy but the problem is they got many bugs and many 0-day bugs even not discovered yet. That player basically reviewed the source code and found some loop-hole.

Just be glad he didn't steal anymore than he did. Because he could of waited until your bankroll got larger and stole > 1 BTC.

This is why most people never gamble on sites which have basic dice scripts and they only use the custom ones which are closed source which are very difficult to discover bugs to cheat and win.

Regarding the IP address, he might of used some form of VPN, this is usually what hackers do.

[OddEvenBets.com]

This is the issue with using those general dice game scripts. They are free or cheap to buy but the problem is they got many bugs and many 0-day bugs even not discovered yet. That player basically reviewed the source code and found some loop-hole.

Just be glad he didn't steal anymore than he did. Because he could of waited until your bankroll got larger and stole > 1 BTC.

This is why most people never gamble on sites which have basic dice scripts and they only use the custom ones which are closed source which are very difficult to discover bugs to cheat and win.

Regarding the IP address, he might of used some form of VPN, this is usually what hackers do.

OK, I'm glad that he can't stole more
I fixed bugs and will be find new bugs..
Thanks.

[BTCevo]

Just open for some few days and you are already been hacked, what really unlucky you are. Instead of buying some outside script, you should developed a new one so you are the one that able to know whether it has a bug or not. And btw when you release your dice game, you dont check overall the codes? If you have some team you should really test the site before releasing it or you can ask in the forum to test your site with some rewards if they found any bug of your site