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January 08, 2019, 07:36:11 PM
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Two days and still no answer?

Are you fixed bugs? Where is my bitcoins?

Oddevenbets account is not active since Dec 31. Just checked the site and I can see a username "dice_cheater" who win a bet with 95x multiplier, so I guess he is you. Regarding your problem, it seems that it is another bug of the script of the dice game. AFAIK their max allowed profit is not that big based on the original game which is only 0.001 max bet. So there must be a bug that let you place the 20k satoshi bet with 95x multiplier. Now, you can only wait for the admin to come back online in this forum as it is the only way to contact them. Although they have twitter account, but the account is not active as well (last tweet was on Christmas)

Hello friend,
Yes, I was been offline few days.
And what happen?.. I catched thief! This is Player_130 and have few accounts..
Player_130=Player_1777=dice_cheater=....
He stole 0.008 BTC.
He use two IP. I will ban this IP..
This will be lesson to scammer!
So how these Player_1777 and 130 stole 0.008? Its quite confusing and if this is in regards with multi-accounting violation then its considerable but based on explanation above he do used TOR.

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January 09, 2019, 04:09:22 PM
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As far as I know that oddevenbets have never got any problems toward players and this is the first time you got this kind of things and I do hope that you really make sure that everything is going to be okay so it will attract more people to your site by making sure how you handle things as fast as possible

Anyway about the bankroll, how is it? Can we able to play with this huge amount? To get 0.02 btc?

My bankroll allows pay 0.02 BTC.
But amount of bet is low still.

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January 09, 2019, 04:22:20 PM
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Two days and still no answer?

Are you fixed bugs? Where is my bitcoins?

Oddevenbets account is not active since Dec 31. Just checked the site and I can see a username "dice_cheater" who win a bet with 95x multiplier, so I guess he is you. Regarding your problem, it seems that it is another bug of the script of the dice game. AFAIK their max allowed profit is not that big based on the original game which is only 0.001 max bet. So there must be a bug that let you place the 20k satoshi bet with 95x multiplier. Now, you can only wait for the admin to come back online in this forum as it is the only way to contact them. Although they have twitter account, but the account is not active as well (last tweet was on Christmas)

Hello friend,
Yes, I was been offline few days.
And what happen?.. I catched thief! This is Player_130 and have few accounts..
Player_130=Player_1777=dice_cheater=....
He stole 0.008 BTC.
He use two IP. I will ban this IP..
This will be lesson to scammer!
So how these Player_1777 and 130 stole 0.008? Its quite confusing and if this is in regards with multi-accounting violation then its considerable but based on explanation above he do used TOR.

He use different script bugs, (bet higher then deposit, ...)
He withdraw 0.008BTC from my wallet without any winnings, stole my money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2069612.msg47881429#msg47881429
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068300.msg47850443#msg47850443

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January 09, 2019, 06:24:53 PM
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He use different script bugs, (bet higher then deposit, ...)
He withdraw 0.008BTC from my wallet without any winnings, stole my money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2069612.msg47881429#msg47881429
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068300.msg47850443#msg47850443

So there is still a bug on your dice game that makes him bet higher the deposit amount? How it could happen while you said that you have fixed the bugs after the first exploit? My suggestion, shut your dice down then try to find and fix all possible bugs on the script. It is even better if you shut it down forever and change with a new script.

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January 09, 2019, 06:33:55 PM
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He use different script bugs, (bet higher then deposit, ...)
He withdraw 0.008BTC from my wallet without any winnings, stole my money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2069612.msg47881429#msg47881429
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068300.msg47850443#msg47850443

So there is still a bug on your dice game that makes him bet higher the deposit amount? How it could happen while you said that you have fixed the bugs after the first exploit? My suggestion, shut your dice down then try to find and fix all possible bugs on the script. It is even better if you shut it down forever and change with a new script.
Maybe its already been fixed since there are no other similar incidents about loss of bitcoin on his site and also he didn't make any announcement if the bugs are already fixed or not.
Launching a site with having bugs will really just give headache to its owner.There are really people loves to exploit if they do really see a hole.

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January 09, 2019, 09:12:43 PM
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I don't know what is wrong with You. There is my deposit transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e2c823db54d89ef741cf80d063bd62f2cd4fa52266c77775bc9cc40a25fd8b63
I deposited 0.00367788 BTC

I tried to bet about $1 and the site didn't allow me that saying that max bet is 0.00022004 BTC. I bet that much:

https://i.imgur.com/0dRxHdJ.png

I didn't bet higher than my deposit as You say. And You still saying that I'm the same person that stole Your bitcoins with some bugs. I don't even know that that happens. And I don't have a clue how that happens.

I still didn't receive payout.

Guys from this forum, thanks for supporting me, please, tell me how I can prove admin that I'm NOT the same person that stole his bitcoins. Also that I didn't place a higher bet than my deposit. Someone, please help me, I'm scammed, I lost my deposit and all my winnings, I don't know what to do. HELP ME
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January 10, 2019, 06:02:12 AM
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I don't know what is wrong with You. There is my deposit transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e2c823db54d89ef741cf80d063bd62f2cd4fa52266c77775bc9cc40a25fd8b63
I deposited 0.00367788 BTC

I tried to bet about $1 and the site didn't allow me that saying that max bet is 0.00022004 BTC. I bet that much:



I didn't bet higher than my deposit as You say. And You still saying that I'm the same person that stole Your bitcoins with some bugs. I don't even know that that happens. And I don't have a clue how that happens.

I still didn't receive payout.

Guys from this forum, thanks for supporting me, please, tell me how I can prove admin that I'm NOT the same person that stole his bitcoins. Also that I didn't place a higher bet than my deposit. Someone, please help me, I'm scammed, I lost my deposit and all my winnings, I don't know what to do. HELP ME

When you say you are using Tor, are you using Tor or just some VPN? There is a difference between the 2.

Usually its highly unlikely to get the same IP as some hackers a few months back using Tor. However its very common to get the same IP as other gamblers using a VPN. Reason being is that there aren't too many VPN providers which take BTC and which take it also anonymously. So there is small number of those VPNs and they are already saturated with gamblers and they tend to share the same IP. This is why sometimes people get banned from gambling sites due to multiple accounts since the server detects the same IP with 2 different accounts.

However it sounds very suspicious how you won only after 1 bet when it seems this site is run on some copy and paste dice script which seems full of exploits. Hence the reason why the above poster suggested taking the site offline while the exploits are corrected or just using some custom dice script instead to avoid these issues.
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January 10, 2019, 06:54:01 AM
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I used TOR. There is a chance that two persons on TOR share the same IP at different times. You have 3 layers of nodes in TOR. Entry node, middle node and exit node. Exit node's IP is visible to end users. If I disconnected from TOR, that exit node is being available for another TOR user so someone could get IP that I was using.

Are You just said that there is no chance of getting 0.94 roll at first bet? Are You suspicious that the site is not fair because there is no chance to get 0.94 on the first roll? Or You just suspicious how I win on the first bet? If You are suspicious of me then You don't know statistics. There is same chance to get 0.94 as any other number. I also checked provably fair information and that information also say's that's rolled 0.94. You know, If I bet >98.96 instead of <1.04 I lose. So it's just PURE LUCK!
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January 12, 2019, 10:51:35 AM
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Are You just said that there is no chance of getting 0.94 roll at first bet? Are You suspicious that the site is not fair because there is no chance to get 0.94 on the first roll? Or You just suspicious how I win on the first bet? If You are suspicious of me then You don't know statistics. There is same chance to get 0.94 as any other number. I also checked provably fair information and that information also say's that's rolled 0.94. You know, If I bet >98.96 instead of <1.04 I lose. So it's just PURE LUCK!

I believe what OP really means is that the ip you are using now is exactly the same as the one who stole from last time, so it will be suspicious to have exactly the same ip address playing on the same site, the first time is a stolen case and the second one is winning case? Dont you think it is reall weird? I do not pro on anyone here but I think I will go with the OP because there is proof that there is similar ip that occurs to steal from his wallet, you are being unlucky to play using this first layer IP like you said before
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January 12, 2019, 02:00:31 PM
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OK, and do You know what else is still funny? I didn't say that I used that IP. Nor I didn't say that I didn't used that IP. I really don't know what IP I had. I just said that it's possible that I used that IP (because I don't know what IP I used so it's possible, I don't have a proof of my IP) and that there is also a chance that attacker who stole OP bitcoins used some IP (because he probably used TOR while attacking). So there is also a chance that OP lied about my IP (Inspect element, etc). There is possible that OP wants to put me in front of the previous attack. There is no real proof.
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January 14, 2019, 07:17:29 PM
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Hello,

I looking Player_1858.

Please contact with me.

I need your wallet for pay to you 0.002849 BTC

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January 14, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
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I believe what OP really means is that the ip you are using now is exactly the same as the one who stole from last time, so it will be suspicious to have exactly the same ip address playing on the same site, the first time is a stolen case and the second one is winning case? Dont you think it is reall weird? I do not pro on anyone here but I think I will go with the OP because there is proof that there is similar ip that occurs to steal from his wallet, you are being unlucky to play using this first layer IP like you said before

Yes, you right! Because two IP is proof.
He don't think about IP.. My opinion that will be lesson to Gambler7777
Thanks!

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January 15, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
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OK, I see that there is no way to get my money back. That should be a lesson to me to stop the gambling! Who knows how much I would be greedy after the winning. So, I'm happy that I'm scammed because this is the last time I'm gambling. Thank You.

Could you please return me a deposit? Please, return me 0.00367788 and 0.0000142 fees for that deposit. My address is 1Ekiaugt6tCtsmpTN9Kd3nHkXqt92rFxVx
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January 15, 2019, 04:02:02 PM
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OK, I see that there is no way to get my money back. That should be a lesson to me to stop the gambling! Who knows how much I would be greedy after the winning. So, I'm happy that I'm scammed because this is the last time I'm gambling. Thank You.
You can think again what has happened, if you have evidence with reasons you have maybe the OP can accept what is wrong, as well as with you, when the OP has provided strong evidence of this problem then you must accept. Sometimes to think about stopping gambling is really needed, every problem faced will have a positive effect on your life changes.

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January 15, 2019, 08:00:38 PM
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The only evidence OP and I have are screenshots. My screenshot of deposit and the bet and the OP screenshot of my IP. I could cheat all my screenshots, OP also can his. He can right click on my IP address, click "Inspect Element" and make my IP looks like IP of some thief. And that's what we call evidence?

I know that I'm not the one who stole the money. I can swear in my life.
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The only evidence OP and I have are screenshots. My screenshot of deposit and the bet and the OP screenshot of my IP. I could cheat all my screenshots, OP also can his. He can right click on my IP address, click "Inspect Element" and make my IP looks like IP of some thief. And that's what we call evidence?

I know that I'm not the one who stole the money. I can swear in my life.

You are correct and its very easy to fake documents, especially online.

However the reason why we seem to believe the admin more than yourself is as follows.

For one, you are using TOR. Usually when people do something bad/illegal they don't use their real IP.

Second, its highly unlikely to get the exact same IP as some other totally unrelated hack a few months back. Yes its possible its a coin incidence but what are the chances of that.

Third, its also suspicious to win right after 1 game.

I think that the admin used some publicly available dice script which has tons of bugs and there are many exploits available and easily cheatable.
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For one, you are using TOR. Usually when people do something bad/illegal they don't use their real IP.
Do You know two main concepts of bitcoin? One is decentralization and the second one is anonymity. Every person that uses bitcoin because of anonymity and don't hide his IP is insane. What I have with bitcoin anonymity if someone's dice script logs my IP? That's the reason why I'm always on TOR... If I don't want anonymity I can go to local casino.

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Second, its highly unlikely to get the exact same IP as some other totally unrelated hack a few months back. Yes its possible its a coin incidence but what are the chances of that.
Yeah, and we don't have real evidence that I used the same IP as thief. Only screenshot.

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Third, its also suspicious to win right after 1 game.
If You know basics of statistics You know that there is exactly same chance of getting 0.94 roll at the first bet and at 10000000 bet or any bet order You want. It's like flipping coin or dice. It's possible to get any number on the first flip. And the second flip is independent of the previous flip. You also can get that same number. And over and over again. But because of "law of large numbers" it most likely that You'll get other numbers next times. But on FIRST ROLL there is same chance for any number! I just had the luck that first game was winning game.

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I think that the admin used some publicly available dice script which has tons of bugs and there are many exploits available and easily cheatable.
I really don't know that.
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January 19, 2019, 01:09:39 PM
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I think that the admin used some publicly available dice script which has tons of bugs and there are many exploits available and easily cheatable.
It is possible that they took the bot which is publicly available otherwise their should have not such a bug on the bot. You should double check before releasing or approving a bot.
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February 04, 2019, 06:44:37 AM
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The only evidence OP and I have are screenshots. My screenshot of deposit and the bet and the OP screenshot of my IP. I could cheat all my screenshots, OP also can his. He can right click on my IP address, click "Inspect Element" and make my IP looks like IP of some thief. And that's what we call evidence?

I know that I'm not the one who stole the money. I can swear in my life.

You are correct and its very easy to fake documents, especially online.

However the reason why we seem to believe the admin more than yourself is as follows.

For one, you are using TOR. Usually when people do something bad/illegal they don't use their real IP.

Second, its highly unlikely to get the exact same IP as some other totally unrelated hack a few months back. Yes its possible its a coin incidence but what are the chances of that.

Third, its also suspicious to win right after 1 game.

I think that the admin used some publicly available dice script which has tons of bugs and there are many exploits available and easily cheatable.

Wow, I see interest story here Grin
Agree that 2 same IP have very low probability.
Win after 1 game - sound like fantastic..
This player is hacker and point.

I placed bets on this site and get all the winnings!
I trust this admin.
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February 05, 2019, 06:22:28 AM
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