Using Armory on the BCH chain

[justmyname]

So I've extracted BCH from Armory. Now I guess BTG would be next? Does it mater what order? Their are other coin forks like Bitcoin Private, Bitcoin Diamond?

And if you get a scam wallet you could lose your coins. They had a scam wallet on the official BTG site which stole over 3 million dollars in BTC. I guess moving your coins to a safe wallet before claiming new coins goes a long way to protect the coins you already have but not the ones that haven't been claimed from the keys.    

[HCP]

So I've extracted BCH from Armory. Now I guess BTG would be next? Does it mater what order? Their are other coin forks like Bitcoin Private, Bitcoin Diamond?

I don't think it really matters what order... personally, I'd do them in descending order of value... so most valuable first. That way, you lose the least amount if your keys are compromised during the process.

Remember, you should move each ForkCoin from the original keys to new seed/keys before claiming the next fork... as for whether or not you want to claim all the ShitCoins... that's up to you.

[justmyname]

So I've extracted BCH from Armory. Now I guess BTG would be next? Does it mater what order? Their are other coin forks like Bitcoin Private, Bitcoin Diamond?

I don't think it really matters what order... personally, I'd do them in descending order of value... so most valuable first. That way, you lose the least amount if your keys are compromised during the process.

Remember, you should move each ForkCoin from the original keys to new seed/keys before claiming the next fork... as for whether or not you want to claim all the ShitCoins... that's up to you.

My first attempt was a failure and kind of spooks me. I downloaded this wallet. https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta  Is it safe source? When setting up the wallet it asked what type of wallet do you want? I chose import keys. Then I pasted the large amount of keys that I exported from Armory. This action set off my virus software that said my laptop camera was attempting to connect? So I let it block it.

And when exporting the keys from Armory. I chose to "save to file" It acted like it saved it but didn't give me an option of where it was saved. So maybe it's somewhere on my computer and my keys may be compromised. I don't think It would copy to clipboard either. So I just highlighted and 
 copied the addresses (except for the header at the top). Basically all the keys to that wallet. Tons of keys. I guessed I could just import all the keys and extract the BTG. 

[HCP]

My first attempt was a failure and kind of spooks me. I downloaded this wallet. https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta  Is it safe source?

That's the official github... no idea if it is "safe" or not...

When setting up the wallet it asked what type of wallet do you want? I chose import keys. Then I pasted the large amount of keys that I exported from Armory. This action set off my virus software that said my laptop camera was attempting to connect? So I let it block it.

Electrum has a QR-Code module in it that uses your webcam... quite possibly the wallet was just trying to initialise webcam functionality. Was this on Windows, MacOSX or Linux?

And when exporting the keys from Armory. I chose to "save to file" It acted like it saved it but didn't give me an option of where it was saved. So maybe it's somewhere on my computer and my keys may be compromised.

No idea... I've seen other users have similar issues where the "save to file" thing does nothing... I always get a "Save File..." dialog open up... maybe it's a permissions thing. Perhaps check the Armory log file for an error?

I don't think It would copy to clipboard either. So I just highlighted and copied the addresses (except for the header at the top). Basically all the keys to that wallet. Tons of keys. I guessed I could just import all the keys and extract the BTG. 

Yeah, you should be able to just copy/paste the keys from the export window to the ElectrumG import window... note that if you have literally hundreds of keys which you import all at once, this could make ElectrumG choke...

If you can identify which addresses actually had BTC at the fork... you could just import the keys that match those addresses... importing all of keys just saves a bit of hassle if you have BTC spread over a whole bunch of addresses.

It all depends on your situation...

[droark]

My first attempt was a failure and kind of spooks me. I downloaded this wallet. https://github.com/BTCGPU/electrum/releases/tag/3.2-beta  Is it safe source?

No clue. I wouldn't touch it myself. If I absolutely insisted on collecting my coins, I'd either wait for the Armory patch (I don't think it's coming at this point, honestly, but who knows) or use this tool from Jimmy Song, a former Armory developer. It's poorly documented but you should find some directions if you poke around on Jimmy's Twitter account. Anyway, IIRC, the tool helps you create valid transactions from keys you feed it, which can then be blasted out to the appropriate network. It may be more painful but, having worked with Jimmy and seen what he has done post-Armory, I'd trust him any day of the week over random devs airdropping coins with their wallets.

[justmyname]

Thanks for the reply everyone.

Electrum has a QR-Code module in it that uses your webcam... quite possibly the wallet was just trying to initialise webcam functionality. Was this on Windows, MacOSX or Linux?

I'm using Windows.

BTG had a wallet on their site that stole something like 3 million worth of Bitcoin. But that wallet has been removed. They might be responsible for it. If you understand code you should be able to tell if it's safe before adding it to your site.  

I guess I'll reinstall the wallet but install a "normal wallet" instead of an import key wallet. Then after it's installed, try importing the keys. I copied all the keys in the Armory wallet except for the top header.

Would it be better to set up a normal wallet with encryption and then import the keys into it?  

I guess you can just copy and paste the keys and it will know how much BTG you have?  

[alomar]

Thanks for the reply everyone.

Electrum has a QR-Code module in it that uses your webcam... quite possibly the wallet was just trying to initialise webcam functionality. Was this on Windows, MacOSX or Linux?

I'm using Windows.

BTG had a wallet on their site that stole something like 3 million worth of Bitcoin. But that wallet has been removed. They might be responsible for it. If you understand code you should be able to tell if it's safe before adding it to your site.  

I guess I'll reinstall the wallet but install a "normal wallet" instead of an import key wallet. Then after it's installed, try importing the keys. I copied all the keys in the Armory wallet except for the top header.

It would better to set up a normal wallet with encryption and then import the keys into it?   

I guess you can just copy and paste the keys and it will know how much BTG you have?  

Coinomi is safe but you have to import one key at a time. The nice thing is it has Shapeshift and Changelly built right into the app for coin exchange.

[HCP]

BTG had a wallet on their site that stole something like 3 million worth of Bitcoin. But that wallet has been removed. They might be responsible for it. If you understand code you should be able to tell if it's safe before adding it to your site. 

From memory... the wallet wasn't hosted on their website... they had a LINK to the scam website (ie. mybtgwallet)... also:

Based on the investigation timeline so far, the malicious code was injected after the wallet’s listing on the BTG website, sometime on the 12th of November. Once the Bitcoin Gold team became aware of the theft, the wallet’s listing was removed from the website.

In any case... why would anyone put their wallet seed into some random website for some random bitcoin fork??!? People got greedy and in the race to claim "Free Money" they didn't take proper precautions and it cost them.

I guess I'll reinstall the wallet but install a "normal wallet" instead of an import key wallet. Then after it's installed, try importing the keys. I copied all the keys in the Armory wallet except for the top header.

You can't import keys into a "normal" wallet when using Electrum (and Electrum forks)... it simply doesn't allow you to (to prevent the situation where you have keys in your seeded wallet that are not backed up by the seed). You could "sweep" the coins from the keys though.

Would it be better to set up a normal wallet with encryption and then import the keys into it?   

I don't see how encrypting the wallet is going to help at all... unless you think that it might prevent your wallet from getting stolen?

This is the whole purpose of moving your Bitcoins to a completely new seed first... if your bitcoins are on completely different keys generated by a different seed, it doesn't matter if your old seed/keys get compromised, your BTC is safe... at worst, you lose some shitcoins.

[justmyname]

You can't import keys into a "normal" wallet when using Electrum (and Electrum forks)... it simply doesn't allow you to (to prevent the situation where you have keys in your seeded wallet that are not backed up by the seed). You could "sweep" the coins from the keys though.

Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But now only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?      

This is the whole purpose of moving your Bitcoins to a completely new seed first... if your bitcoins are on completely different keys generated by a different seed, it doesn't matter if your old seed/keys get compromised, your BTC is safe... at worst, you lose some shitcoins.

My Bitcoin and BCH are long gone and moved into a wallet with a new seed. I'm sure the thieves would jump in any gutter to get BTG worth $76 each though. Plus Bitcoin Private Bitcoin Diamond etc etc etc.  

[justmyname]

Coinomi is safe but you have to import one key at a time. The nice thing is it has Shapeshift and Changelly built right into the app for coin exchange.

Alomar. Did you get your BCH yet? I don't use a computer cell phone though. 

[HCP]

Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But it only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?     

Did you ensure that the keys you copy/pasted into ElectrumG do not have any spaces... and are just the "Private Key (Plain Base58)" keys?  No spaces (Omit spaces in key data)... One per line... like this:


There should be no other text, or prefixes or " marks or anything like that

[alomar]

Coinomi is safe but you have to import one key at a time. The nice thing is it has Shapeshift and Changelly built right into the app for coin exchange.

Alomar. Did you get your BCH yet? I don't use a computer cell phone though. 

since you've already moved your BTC and BCH to a new seed, it's perfectly safe to now sweep the original private keys into a Coinomi phone wallet app to claim your BTG.  it's a great app but yeah, you have to trust their servers aren't grabbing your private key.  but that shouldn't matter in your case.  from within the app you also have direct exchange capacity with either Shapeshift or Changelly; which also has worked great.  i'm skeptical of all the fraud allegations against Changelly.  there are certainly TPTB actors out there trying to disrupt the business operations of legit exchanges.

[justmyname]

Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But it only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?      

Did you ensure that the keys you copy/pasted into ElectrumG do not have any spaces... and are just the "Private Key (Plain Base58)" keys?  No spaces (Omit spaces in key data)... One per line... like this:


There should be no other text, or prefixes or " marks or anything like that

Tha's probably it. All I did was copy and paste exactly how it is out of Armory. You put just the private key? Or both both private key and address? Which is which?

And after it's imported do I have to do something else or will I see the balance? 

[alomar]

Ok. Now I've figured out that I don't have to have the (not used addresses) which makes it 20 or so addresses. Started the Electrumg (import BTG keys) and copied them into the supplied area. But it only the back button is highlighted and I can't proceed?     

Did you ensure that the keys you copy/pasted into ElectrumG do not have any spaces... and are just the "Private Key (Plain Base58)" keys?  No spaces (Omit spaces in key data)... One per line... like this:


There should be no other text, or prefixes or " marks or anything like that

Tha's probably it. All I did was copy and paste exactly how it is out of Armory. You put just the private key? Or both both private key and address? Which is which? 

just the privkeys, as he listed

[justmyname]

Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.     

[HCP]

Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed. 

Great success!

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.     

I've found the best settings for exporting from Armory are:


NOTE: you only really need the "Included unused (Address pool)" option if your Armory is not properly synced (ie. restored wallet on machine without fully synced Bitcoin node etc)... or if you think you may still receive a payment to an address that has not received any coins in Armory already.

The output generated using those options will enable you to match private keys to addresses... so if you know which addresses hold coins etc, you can simply import the matching private key(s) for those addresses.

[alomar]

Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.     

Wait. I'm lost with what you're trying to do by dumping your private keys into electrum?  Didn't you already move your BTC to a new seed?  And aren't you trying to claim BTG?

[justmyname]

Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.    

Wait. I'm lost with what you're trying to do by dumping your private keys into electrum?  Didn't you already move your BTC to a new seed?  And aren't you trying to claim BTG?

By importing the Armory private keys into electrumg I extracted the BTG. Yes, I first moved my BTC and BCH to a hardware wallet with a new seed, (just in case the wallet is a trap). And now I have moved the BTG into the same hardware wallet. The hardware wallet Supports BTC, BCH, and BTG.

And I also downloaded the Bitcoin Private Electrum 1.1.1 https://github.com/BTCPrivate/electrum-btcp/releases/ and extracted those coins also. Unfortunately my hardware wallet doesn't support BTCP at this time so I have just left the coins in my new BTCP Electrum wallet.

I have my pre fork Armory private keys organized into separate note pad files stored on a thumb drive. So I can quickly import the keys into other Bitcoin fork wallets, if I want. That way I don't have to go through the procedure in Armory and reorganize the keys for each new coin.

To get the free fork coins you have to download a wallet set up for  that particular coin that allows you to import the private keys.  

I used HPC's configuration for exporting coins, he partially shows in the post above. To get to that screen you have to go to "properties" for the highlighted wallet and then go to "back up wallet".    

[alomar]

Thanks! I think I have the balance displayed.  

Update:

The Electrumg wallet works great. Moved all coins (including offline wallet) to hardware wallet. You just have to know exactly how to configure your Armory wallet to export the keys to note pad. Then you have to know exactly how to separate and organize the keys before importing them to Electrumg.    

Wait. I'm lost with what you're trying to do by dumping your private keys into electrum?  Didn't you already move your BTC to a new seed?  And aren't you trying to claim BTG?

By importing the Armory private keys into electrumg I extracted the BTG. Yes, I first moved my BTG and BCH to a hardware wallet with a new seed, (just in case the wallet is a trap). And now I have moved the BTG into the same hardware wallet. The hardware wallet Supports BTC, BCH, and BTG.

And I also downloaded the Bitcoin Private Electrum 1.1.1 https://github.com/BTCPrivate/electrum-btcp/releases/ and extracted those coins also. Unfortunately my hardware wallet doesn't support BTCP at this time so I have just left the coins in my new BTCP Electrum wallet.

I have my pre fork Armory private keys organized into separate note pad files stored on a thumb drive. So I can quickly import the keys into other Bitcoin fork wallets, if I want. That way I don't have to go through the procedure in Armory and reorganize the keys for each new coin.

To get the free fork coins you have to download a wallet set up for  that particular coin that allows you to import the private keys.  

I used HPC's configuration for exporting coins, he partially shows in the post above. To get to that screen you have to go to "properties" for the highlighted wallet and then go to "back up wallet".   

Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.

[justmyname]

Ah, OK. Hadn't noticed that little g at the end of electrumg. Didn't know they had a BTG tool.

And it looks like I could have saved a lot of time if I would have used  the Electron Cash wallet to extract the BCH.  :PWith this wallet you wouldn't have to download the blockchain. Once you have the Armory private keys exported and arranged  in a note pad file, you would have the coins in minutes.  If the wallet hasn't been tampered with. https://electroncash.org/#download