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August 07, 2017, 06:32:04 AM
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Hello guys!

The question is simple - how to open a bitcoin wallet completely anonymously? I can see that there are many software which you can download and open a wallet, also web services, exchanges - all these things require you to download something and use third party software and services. It is kind of paradoxical since bitcoin should be all decentralized, that's what the basic idea is about. So, how to open a bitcoin wallet completely anonymously (as far as I understand I just need this code, where I give to someone to get btc to), so I would not need anybody's software or service. How to join the network by default way?

I look forward to hearing your advice, thank you!!
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August 07, 2017, 06:38:03 AM
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Use a web wallet like mine:

BTC: https://simcoin.info/tsbw/
BCC: http://simcoin.info/tsbw/bcc/

Or coinb.in.


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August 07, 2017, 06:39:39 AM
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Those third party softwares and services mostly doesn't leak your info.If you are paranoid you can create a wallet using those apps on a computer that doesn't have internet access.If you want to use a web service for creating wallet and want to sure that you are still protecting your anonymity you can try Tails OS.It makes you connect internet using Tor network.
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August 07, 2017, 06:40:33 AM
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there are two different things you shouldn't confuse:
1. a bitcoin wallet
2. a service calling itself wallet. like web wallets such as coinbase or exchange wallets.
the second group are not anonymous and are not wallets although you can use them as wallets to send and receive.

...all these things require you to download something and use third party software ...
well in order to have a bitcoin wallet and generate a key pair you need to use some code or software. they are al open source and there is a very good documentation available on bitcoin.org
you either go through the code or write your own thing if you are paranoid and also an expert in programming or if you know nothing about coding you have no choice to trust the opinion of others for doing a "peer review" of the code and be sure it has nothing bad in it.

ps. remember that bitcoin is not fully anonymous by design.

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August 07, 2017, 06:41:18 AM
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Use a web wallet like mine:

BTC: https://simcoin.info/tsbw/
BCC: http://simcoin.info/tsbw/bcc/

Or coinb.in.




So I just enter anything to the box to generate my bitcoin wallet key (which I have to keep totally for myself and only give when I want to receive bitcoins)? right?
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August 07, 2017, 06:43:37 AM
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No way.
Bitcoin managed to mislead others in that there might be some kind of anonymity.
Will always be a trail on which you can associate some kind of wallet a man.

I was generally surprised by its price. A lot of flaws in this payment system, and they are in demand. Very strange.
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August 07, 2017, 06:45:33 AM
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So I just enter anything to the box to generate my bitcoin wallet key (which I have to keep totally for myself and only give when I want to receive bitcoins)? right?

Right. But unlike regular passwords this one needs to be really strong. Like 30-40 _random_ characters.

When you want to receive bitcoins you give people your _address_, not private key or password obviously Smiley

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August 07, 2017, 06:47:40 AM
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there are two different things you shouldn't confuse:
1. a bitcoin wallet
2. a service calling itself wallet. like web wallets such as coinbase or exchange wallets.
the second group are not anonymous and are not wallets although you can use them as wallets to send and receive.

...all these things require you to download something and use third party software ...
well in order to have a bitcoin wallet and generate a key pair you need to use some code or software. they are al open source and there is a very good documentation available on bitcoin.org
you either go through the code or write your own thing if you are paranoid and also an expert in programming or if you know nothing about coding you have no choice to trust the opinion of others for doing a "peer review" of the code and be sure it has nothing bad in it.

ps. remember that bitcoin is not fully anonymous by design.

What would you recommend then? The most reliable, secure and private one?
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August 07, 2017, 06:50:58 AM
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No way.
Bitcoin managed to mislead others in that there might be some kind of anonymity.
Will always be a trail on which you can associate some kind of wallet a man.

I was generally surprised by its price. A lot of flaws in this payment system, and they are in demand. Very strange.

if some people decide to believe some wrong stuff regarding bitcoin and if they decide to not read about those stuff from proper places then it is their own fault they are "misled".
bitcoin does not mislead anyone. on the starting page of bitcoin.org for beginners to get to know bitcoin better it clearly states that "bitcoin is not anonymous". I don't know how it can be clearer than this!!


there are two different things you shouldn't confuse:
1. a bitcoin wallet
2. a service calling itself wallet. like web wallets such as coinbase or exchange wallets.
the second group are not anonymous and are not wallets although you can use them as wallets to send and receive.

...all these things require you to download something and use third party software ...
well in order to have a bitcoin wallet and generate a key pair you need to use some code or software. they are al open source and there is a very good documentation available on bitcoin.org
you either go through the code or write your own thing if you are paranoid and also an expert in programming or if you know nothing about coding you have no choice to trust the opinion of others for doing a "peer review" of the code and be sure it has nothing bad in it.

ps. remember that bitcoin is not fully anonymous by design.

What would you recommend then? The most reliable, secure and private one?

choose your wallet from here: https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
I suggest one of these:
bitcoin core: as a full node, which takes longer to sync initially and will require a bigger storage space
electrum: as an SPV wallet, which is super fast to sync and takes a very small storage space
hardware wallet: choose one from that list.
paper wallet as a cold storage: bitaddress.org is a good one.

but you have to learn the differences and learn how to make the wallet safe. read the link.

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August 07, 2017, 06:54:10 AM
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So I just enter anything to the box to generate my bitcoin wallet key (which I have to keep totally for myself and only give when I want to receive bitcoins)? right?

Right. But unlike regular passwords this one needs to be really strong. Like 30-40 _random_ characters.

When you want to receive bitcoins you give people your _address_, not private key or password obviously Smiley


So when I enter a passcode I get this:



Is it the address I need to give someone to receive btc?
What are the passcodes for then?
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August 07, 2017, 06:55:45 AM
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Hello guys!

The question is simple - how to open a bitcoin wallet completely anonymously? I can see that there are many software which you can download and open a wallet, also web services, exchanges - all these things require you to download something and use third party software and services. It is kind of paradoxical since bitcoin should be all decentralized, that's what the basic idea is about. So, how to open a bitcoin wallet completely anonymously (as far as I understand I just need this code, where I give to someone to get btc to), so I would not need anybody's software or service. How to join the network by default way?

I look forward to hearing your advice, thank you!!
If you want only anonymous then it would be better to use vpn and then create email with third party virtual mobile number from the online site and then use that email to create the blockchain account .
And if you want to create more anonymously without using mobile number and email id then it would be more better for you to use direct wallet with private key  , i means to say that download mycelium wallet from Google play store and then open the app and click to create new , there you will found the address to use and use that adress for use and also don't forget to make backup and export private key for further tension .


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August 07, 2017, 06:58:07 AM
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So when I enter a passcode I get this:

Is it the address I need to give someone to receive btc?

Yes.


What are the passcodes for then?

Passphrase is your password for that address. You should also save your private key (click on -[wif]- to show it) in a safe place, so you can import it into other wallets if you need it.

Basically this is how it works: passphrase => private key / public key (your address)


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August 07, 2017, 07:04:34 AM
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Hello guys!

The question is simple - how to open a bitcoin wallet completely anonymously? I can see that there are many software which you can download and open a wallet, also web services, exchanges - all these things require you to download something and use third party software and services. It is kind of paradoxical since bitcoin should be all decentralized, that's what the basic idea is about. So, how to open a bitcoin wallet completely anonymously (as far as I understand I just need this code, where I give to someone to get btc to), so I would not need anybody's software or service. How to join the network by default way?

I look forward to hearing your advice, thank you!!
If you want only anonymous then it would be better to use vpn and then create email with third party virtual mobile number from the online site and then use that email to create the blockchain account .
And if you want to create more anonymously without using mobile number and email id then it would be more better for you to use direct wallet with private key  , i means to say that download mycelium wallet from Google play store and then open the app and click to create new , there you will found the address to use and use that adress for use and also don't forget to make backup and export private key for further tension .


what is this direct wallet with private key?
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August 07, 2017, 07:33:13 AM
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Actually super simple. Do you want a wallet that doesn't link to anything, even if the information is false, and how safe do you want the wallet to be. Anyways, here are some suggestions:

-Electrum: This wallet is a desktop wallet that I would definitely recommend. It is super simple and also provides a safe option to store your Bitcoin. One good feature is that it also gives adjustable fees when sending Bitcoin.

-Web wallets, they are easy to use but not as safe as Electrum, you also need to make a fake email address for this.

-Ledgerwallet or trezor. They are hardware wallets and you don't need any personal information to use them.


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August 07, 2017, 07:41:09 AM
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-Web wallets, they are easy to use but not as safe as Electrum, you also need to make a fake email address for this.

That's one good thing about my TSBW: there is no need for email or phone, and also there is no logging done as no information is sent to my server.

So in terms of privacy (and simplicity) it's a very good solution.

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-Web wallets, they are easy to use but not as safe as Electrum, you also need to make a fake email address for this.

That's one good thing about my TSBW: there is no need for email or phone, and also there is no logging done as no information is sent to my server.

So in terms of privacy (and simplicity) it's a very good solution.


what's the benefit for you as the owner of that wallet?
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what's the benefit for you as the owner of that wallet?

There is no benefit. If you like it, consider donating: 19BryCNdGs5F48J6yvw41pVSd5RDiA4j1x

I mostly created it for myself, because I got sick and tired of blockchain.info and other wallets.

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August 07, 2017, 08:34:49 AM
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Actually super simple. Do you want a wallet that doesn't link to anything, even if the information is false, and how safe do you want the wallet to be. Anyways, here are some suggestions:

-Electrum: This wallet is a desktop wallet that I would definitely recommend. It is super simple and also provides a safe option to store your Bitcoin. One good feature is that it also gives adjustable fees when sending Bitcoin.

-Web wallets, they are easy to use but not as safe as Electrum, you also need to make a fake email address for this.

-Ledgerwallet or trezor. They are hardware wallets and you don't need any personal information to use them.

what are hardware wallets and how do they work?
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what is the difference between electrum and bitaddress.org ?

and do I understand correctly that there is one wallet which can have many adresses? or one should create new wallet for each new transaction?
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