I've been banned from every decent UK bookmaker - Where next?

[Martinsand]

So its taken a couple of years but I have now been stopped by all the decent sites online and even the 2 local firms near me have restricted me to SP only.  All I have left is the Betfair Exchange, which is fine for my inplay fun gambling but my edge there is break even/non existant

As I am not an arber or fraudster, returns are not guaranteed and I'm unwilling to travel miles away to the next town to get a bet on, it may end up being a waste of time anyway if something does come up as I'm sure the staff local to me work in those shops and will be aware of the SP only restriction.

Just wonder where people have turned to next once they are stopped for winning?

I have looked through the various bitcoin sportsbooks but don't see a reason any of them would be willing to take on somebody who is a proven winner for very long, short term it might be a bit of fun but I'm looking further down the road.

Can people make day trading the crypto currencies pay?  There MUST be some edge to be had in those markets given the amount of shilling and crap thats posted here about the shitcoins.

Any advice would be appreciated, wheres my next challenge.

[Martinsand]

So just been browsing the other topics, dont think I'll find many former gamblers here 

Good luck guys, dont play games where the odds are against you.

[BitcoinSupremo]

Nitrogensports, Sportsbet , Coinbet24 they all do not care if you are a winner or not in the long term. They have lots and I mean lots of money so you are safe to play there. They make a lot of money daily out of all their customers who play gambling there. Who gives a damn about UK bookmakers when we have bitcoin sportsbooks which accepts us only with a valid email address which anyone can made up one and never expose your real identity details.

[Martinsand]

Ok, I'm looking into it a bit closer now as that sounds good.


My first instincts when looking into them were that they offer abysmal prices that nobody can win with.

[NorrisK]

Maybe you need to move to a city that has more bookmakers? Sounds like they just decided to gang up on you for winning too much.

[Martinsand]

I dont want to keep gambling on sports, I want to move on to something else.

[BigBoy89]

So its taken a couple of years but I have now been stopped by all the decent sites online and even the 2 local firms near me have restricted me to SP only.  All I have left is the Betfair Exchange, which is fine for my inplay fun gambling but my edge there is break even/non existant

As I am not an arber or fraudster, returns are not guaranteed and I'm unwilling to travel miles away to the next town to get a bet on, it may end up being a waste of time anyway if something does come up as I'm sure the staff local to me work in those shops and will be aware of the SP only restriction.

Just wonder where people have turned to next once they are stopped for winning?

I have looked through the various bitcoin sportsbooks but don't see a reason any of them would be willing to take on somebody who is a proven winner for very long, short term it might be a bit of fun but I'm looking further down the road.

Can people make day trading the crypto currencies pay?  There MUST be some edge to be had in those markets given the amount of shilling and crap thats posted here about the shitcoins.

Any advice would be appreciated, wheres my next challenge.

What about BetDaq and Smarkets? They are with smaller commission than Betfair?

Other options from here are Fairlay - they have anonymous accounts and Pinnacle odds.

[ActiveP]

I dont want to keep gambling on sports, I want to move on to something else.

Definitely not in crypto-currency trading as they play by different set of rules. What ever edge you may discover could be wiped out by one single correction. I cannot give you any proper advice as I am a losing bettor most times, but I will love to pick your brains if you don't mind. No harm done, since you cannot use your "system" anymore as a result of being banned. 

[Martinsand]

By all means ask me anything.

Betdaq and smarkets have no liquidity at all, they may have lower commission rates than the BF base rate but with no liquidity its a waste iof time trying, the time you waste trying to get a bet matched at the price you want costs a lot more than the % they dont take from you in comms.

[sportbettor]

Here you can see a list of best 20 Sportsbooks accepting Cryptocurrency: http://sportstatist.com/sportsbooks-accepting-cryptocurrency-eng/

[BigBoy89]

By all means ask me anything.

Betdaq and smarkets have no liquidity at all, they may have lower commission rates than the BF base rate but with no liquidity its a waste iof time trying, the time you waste trying to get a bet matched at the price you want costs a lot more than the % they dont take from you in comms.

Hmm.. on what sports you are looking to bet?
BetDaq have the 30-60% of BF liquidity on Horses and nearly 50% on every major soccer league. In 99% cases this is enough.

I told you for BTC - Nitrogen or Fairlay with Pinnacle odds.

[LuanX3]

I don't think you can get banned from playing if you just winning legitimately. Likely OP has been doing something bad that would result in his bans.
I am not sure why he mentioned trading, I think it is no where near sports gambling or even gambling in general.

[eternalgloom]

I don't think you can get banned from playing if you just winning legitimately. Likely OP has been doing something bad that would result in his bans.
I am not sure why he mentioned trading, I think it is no where near sports gambling or even gambling in general.

It is possible to get banned if you win too much. Bookmakers can ban at their own will and they're not obliged to offer anyone their services.
Casino's do it too, for example, card counting is not illegal under federal law, but casino's regularly ban people for it.

Trading is pretty similar to some +EV gambling games.

[klf]

I don't think you can get banned from playing if you just winning legitimately. Likely OP has been doing something bad that would result in his bans.
I am not sure why he mentioned trading, I think it is no where near sports gambling or even gambling in general.

It is possible to get banned if you win too much. Bookmakers can ban at their own will and they're not obliged to offer anyone their services.
Casino's do it too, for example, card counting is not illegal under federal law, but casino's regularly ban people for it.

Trading is pretty similar to some +EV gambling games.

Yes, that may be possible if one wants to play with fiat currency or in real casinos. But if people gamble with cryptocurrencies then I don't think any site can do that banning. If they do also you can start playing with another account by using a good proxy. But in online crypto currency gambling, most of the sites will not do banning for winning money because they know at the end they are the one going to win.

[BigBoy89]

I don't think you can get banned from playing if you just winning legitimately. Likely OP has been doing something bad that would result in his bans.
I am not sure why he mentioned trading, I think it is no where near sports gambling or even gambling in general.

Seems you don't have any real knowledge on sportsbetting.

Almost every fiat bookie and lately even few bitcoin bookies are limiting to 1-5 euro per bet every winning player. Is some cases - direct bans.  One of the few exceptions, but not always, are Pinnacle, SBO and 5Dimes.

By trading, OP meant trading on sports betting odds in betting exchanges like Betfair for fiat and BetBTC for bitcoin.

[bajing]

I don't think you can get banned from playing if you just winning legitimately. Likely OP has been doing something bad that would result in his bans.
I am not sure why he mentioned trading, I think it is no where near sports gambling or even gambling in general.

It is possible to get banned if you win too much. Bookmakers can ban at their own will and they're not obliged to offer anyone their services.
Casino's do it too, for example, card counting is not illegal under federal law, but casino's regularly ban people for it.

Trading is pretty similar to some +EV gambling games.

If that a reason, i don't think unreasonable. all gambler can win a lot of money if they can do it, i think he do something cheat that known by bookmaker because only that the reason for bookmaker ban someone to play.

[stevebc]

Have you used up the Gibraltar bookmakers?  Or are you including them in the UK grouping (I could understand why)

I've played a few of the chinese ones for signup bonuses, but I don't think i'd trust them with any serious amounts of money.

[Emoclaw]

I'm vouching for NitrogenSports, they are fantastic and don't care about your results.
Since it uses Bitcoin, registration doesn't require many details and it's extremely fast & easy, try them out.

[ralle14]

Why not try fairlay ?  bigboy89 already suggested it twice. They match bets instantly as long as you dont move the odds. I've had good experiences from them.

Almost every fiat bookie and lately even few bitcoin bookies are limiting to 1-5 euro per bet every winning player. Is some cases - direct bans.  One of the few exceptions, but not always, are Pinnacle, SBO and 5Dimes.

I got limited once for betting live from an ultraplay bookie because everytime I bet it always win just out of pure luck but the amount i'm staking wasnt that big 10-20mbtcs.