🔥⭐[ANN] CROWDHOLDING CO-CREATION PLATFORM🔥

[stupid_seb]

We taken to consideration other points (which not mentioned in the answer). You overall rating was improved by 0.3
https://icocritic.org/ico/crowdholding-ico-review/

Dont call yourself underdog. Don't compare our ratings to another rating agency ratings. We are more critic We came from "real world" funding industry. Where 99.9% of ICO (like they are now) will be not even considered as a projects for investments. In "real world" you need to have business plan, bunch of researches and plans, here, you just need to make a whitepaper, so at least make it clear.

With a 2.4 rating you are somewhere in a middle. Once again, please dont compare us to another rating agencies. You have been rated as average project.

Huge PLUS for you, as you are open for discussion and trying to oppose. Some other projects just called us SCAM

If you have something to add, it will be pleasure to continue this discussion. Just, please, try to operate facts Without playing with them

Interesting stuff.
You say people investing in crowdsourcing (a la kickstarter) vs. the ones investing in startups are from different segments.
Do you have material to prove this point?

Like in the US where startup investors have to be accredited, most people generally cannot invest in startups.
But, I have seen huge similarities in profiles WANTING to invest in startups vs people doing crowdsourcing of projects.
This is where the tokenization enters the game.

Thx for sharing. Happy to continue in PM if needed. (We can share linkedin profiles)

[phoenixdowndee]

We taken to consideration other points (which not mentioned in the answer). You overall rating was improved by 0.3
https://icocritic.org/ico/crowdholding-ico-review/

Dont call yourself underdog. Don't compare our ratings to another rating agency ratings. We are more critic We came from "real world" funding industry. Where 99.9% of ICO (like they are now) will be not even considered as a projects for investments. In "real world" you need to have business plan, bunch of researches and plans, here, you just need to make a whitepaper, so at least make it clear.

With a 2.4 rating you are somewhere in a middle. Once again, please dont compare us to another rating agencies. You have been rated as average project.

Huge PLUS for you, as you are open for discussion and trying to oppose. Some other projects just called us SCAM

If you have something to add, it will be pleasure to continue this discussion. Just, please, try to operate facts Without playing with them

Hello smartJEV,

thank you for the response, we are happy to always discuss our vision / ICO as we believe that transparency is key and is one of the main components that is missing from a large amount of ICO's. We are reading through your responses and we will get back to you later today.

[phoenixdowndee]

Here at Crowdholding, we believe that transparency is key to creating a strong relationship between projects and the crowd, so we have created a FAQ to answer the most popular questions.

If you have any other questions, please join our telegram channel where you can chat to our team!

https://t.me/Crowdholding

http://bit.ly/2AofHZq

[phoenixdowndee]

Join our telegram channel to keep up to date with all news relating to Crowdholding!

[beckybrooks]

Thanks for explaining everything on this. I found it extremely helpful

[phoenixdowndee]

The idea is to exploit much more of the synergy between consumers and producers, is that correct? But the problem is that human beings by nature are very egoistic. You talk about a company pledging some of its earnings in hopes to get some valuable feedback and then those people will even become some type of shareholder? Maybe it works but often times human beings are less interested in synergies (because they can't see them) and more interested in their own well-being.

Hello ninjaskip, thank you for the response.

For starters we are not looking to exploit. Creating a relationship between startups and consumers is mutually beneficial for both parties.

Startups will have their products validated through comments which will enhance their product and allow them to grow, they will build a network with people who are interested in their ideology / startup and create a buzz instead of just going for advertisements on google.

Supporters will earn the YUPIE for their work, be able to connect with interesting projects and build a professional portfolio and create an affinity with a project. Even if someone is only interested in their own well-being they have benefits.

I hope this answers your query, and if you have any more questions feel free to send me a message or post on this thread

Good explanation and that is convincing. I got your concept a little bit wrong in the beginning but now it makes sense. A great platform to have. Thank you for the detailed response!

You are very welcome ninjaskip,

If you have any other queries or questions, feel free to ask on this thread or send me a private message.

[phoenixdowndee]

Crowdholding has launched their second 24 hour task! Click on the link below, complete the task and earn YUPIES, but hurry you only have 24 hours!

(YUPIES will be distributed after the task has finished)

http://bit.ly/2lVBcxn

[smartJEV]

We taken to consideration other points (which not mentioned in the answer). You overall rating was improved by 0.3
https://icocritic.org/ico/crowdholding-ico-review/

Dont call yourself underdog. Don't compare our ratings to another rating agency ratings. We are more critic We came from "real world" funding industry. Where 99.9% of ICO (like they are now) will be not even considered as a projects for investments. In "real world" you need to have business plan, bunch of researches and plans, here, you just need to make a whitepaper, so at least make it clear.

With a 2.4 rating you are somewhere in a middle. Once again, please dont compare us to another rating agencies. You have been rated as average project.

Huge PLUS for you, as you are open for discussion and trying to oppose. Some other projects just called us SCAM

If you have something to add, it will be pleasure to continue this discussion. Just, please, try to operate facts Without playing with them

Interesting stuff.
You say people investing in crowdsourcing (a la kickstarter) vs. the ones investing in startups are from different segments.
Do you have material to prove this point?

Like in the US where startup investors have to be accredited, most people generally cannot invest in startups.
But, I have seen huge similarities in profiles WANTING to invest in startups vs people doing crowdsourcing of projects.
This is where the tokenization enters the game.

Thx for sharing. Happy to continue in PM if needed. (We can share linkedin profiles)

Hi, you didnt understood the point right. In crowdsourcing people are not investing, they WORK in crowdsourcing and the income from crowdsourcing is compared low.

[stupid_seb]

We taken to consideration other points (which not mentioned in the answer). You overall rating was improved by 0.3
https://icocritic.org/ico/crowdholding-ico-review/

Dont call yourself underdog. Don't compare our ratings to another rating agency ratings. We are more critic We came from "real world" funding industry. Where 99.9% of ICO (like they are now) will be not even considered as a projects for investments. In "real world" you need to have business plan, bunch of researches and plans, here, you just need to make a whitepaper, so at least make it clear.

With a 2.4 rating you are somewhere in a middle. Once again, please dont compare us to another rating agencies. You have been rated as average project.

Huge PLUS for you, as you are open for discussion and trying to oppose. Some other projects just called us SCAM

If you have something to add, it will be pleasure to continue this discussion. Just, please, try to operate facts Without playing with them

Interesting stuff.
You say people investing in crowdsourcing (a la kickstarter) vs. the ones investing in startups are from different segments.
Do you have material to prove this point?

Like in the US where startup investors have to be accredited, most people generally cannot invest in startups.
But, I have seen huge similarities in profiles WANTING to invest in startups vs people doing crowdsourcing of projects.
This is where the tokenization enters the game.

Thx for sharing. Happy to continue in PM if needed. (We can share linkedin profiles)

Hi, you didnt understood the point right. In crowdsourcing people are not investing, they WORK in crowdsourcing and the income from crowdsourcing is compared low.

Sure, investing and crowdsourcing is different. But, I just react to this specific point you raised:

Did you made any research about crowdsourcing users? Are you really believe they will fund startaps? Crowdsourcers and crowdfunders are from different segments.

I am curious about your segmentation.
My understanding of this vertical is that there is a huge proximity between crowdsourcing users and people who "want to" invest in startups (but cannot bc of regulations etc...).

I want to understand better your point about the people being "from different segments". It's not what I see (note: This is something I studied in my job, hence the proposal for a more proper introduction on LinkedIn, to speak between professionals).

They are different segments today, by design, but they are very close nonetheless. If a company like crowdholding allows, by tokenziation, people to invest in statups, my understanding is that the "crowdsourcers" will be a significant "market" for them.

I just want to talk. It's interesting.

[smartJEV]

We talking about users. What proximity you see? In crowdsource people make all day testing to get their 5$ (you can check in google, how much you can earn from crowdsource) and in crowdfunding people invest money to a risky startup's. We dont say they can't be investors, sure they can invest their 5$. We wrote that they cant be effective investors.

[stupid_seb]

We talking about users. What proximity you see? In crowdsource people make all day testing to get their 5$ (you can check in google, how much you can earn from crowdsource) and in crowdfunding people invest money to a risky startup's. We dont say they can't be investors, sure they can invest their 5$. We wrote that they cant be effective investors.

I get it.
Nevermind.
Thanks!

[AngolianJasonaka]

How will be the money, collected during the ICO be spent?

[phoenixdowndee]

How will be the money, collected during the ICO be spent?

Hello AngolianJasonaka,

You can see how the money will be allocated and all our future ideas by reading our whitepaper. (Page 12) 

https://ico.crowdholding.com/docs/crowdholding_whitepaper.pdf?v=3 (whitepaper)

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask me via private message or writing on our thread. I hope this answers your question.

[turlando]

Good idea to combine crowsourcing with the blockchain

[kseniya.pride]

We talking about users. What proximity you see? In crowdsource people make all day testing to get their 5$ (you can check in google, how much you can earn from crowdsource) and in crowdfunding people invest money to a risky startup's. We dont say they can't be investors, sure they can invest their 5$. We wrote that they cant be effective investors.

They can buy more coins (YUP), add their 5$ or whatever they made and invest. It's a CROWDfunding - people invest whatever they can/want. Every penny matters.

[phoenixdowndee]

Our CMO is presenting at ICOConf.io - ICO Conference in Moscow today!

[alinapavlovichcc]

Good afternoon, your company has very much interested! I will be very grateful, els you will study my article about CROWDHOLDING.
https://biznessweb.jimdo.com/crowdsale/crowdholding/

[phoenixdowndee]

Crowdholding has launched a new task! Help us grow our community by joining our telegram chat and get YUPIES!

http://bit.ly/2Asi3X3

[phoenixdowndee]

We taken to consideration other points (which not mentioned in the answer). You overall rating was improved by 0.3
https://icocritic.org/ico/crowdholding-ico-review/

Dont call yourself underdog. Don't compare our ratings to another rating agency ratings. We are more critic We came from "real world" funding industry. Where 99.9% of ICO (like they are now) will be not even considered as a projects for investments. In "real world" you need to have business plan, bunch of researches and plans, here, you just need to make a whitepaper, so at least make it clear.

With a 2.4 rating you are somewhere in a middle. Once again, please dont compare us to another rating agencies. You have been rated as average project.

Huge PLUS for you, as you are open for discussion and trying to oppose. Some other projects just called us SCAM

If you have something to add, it will be pleasure to continue this discussion. Just, please, try to operate facts Without playing with them

Dear smartJEV,

thank you for your response and for looking into Crowdholding. Here are our responses from the last round of your questions.

Yes, but please tell how are you going to improve existing services, let’s operate only facts. How are you going to beat already established projects? What's unique about you? Why your project is better?

I like to think about Crowdholding as a new kind of social media platform, where we offer standardization of the communication between customers and businesses. When big companies want to have social media coverage they hire some social media manager that has nothing in common with the company and then the social media posts are just promo of the businesses. Our solution is to create bridge, so the customers/the crowd will be present at the decision-making processes within the companies. So in the end businesses will better match and access customer’s needs.  
The same for startups except that startups usually do not have enough people and underestimate to validate the ideas and future products with their customers.

Did you made any research about crowdsourcing users? Are you really believe they will fund startups? Crowdsourcers and crowdfunders are from different segments.

We have been studying crowdsourcing for a year and a half. Let me recommend you a book that has a chapter about the future of crowdsourcing, to have a better understanding of our vision. It’s called Bold, by Peter Diamandis. In addition, we used a lot of resources of a thesis from a PhD student from Stockholm University regarding crowdsourcing. Just wrote her to get permission if I can publicly share it here on bitcointalk. When she gives the go ahead we will share it with all of you

We are building a hierarchy system similar to what you see here on bitcointalk. The more Yupies you hold the more features you unlock. Thus, if you’re a newbie, you will only be allowed to post in the beginning a few times a day. If you buy or invest with the Yupie in our application you also earn more in the hierarchy system. Thus, encouraging our users to hold on to our Yupie as we gain the critical mass, and when we offer them the ability to invest in our projects, they spend our Yupies to increase their hierarchy position.


We also provided some giants from crowdsourcing industry - Innocentive, IdeaConnection, Yet2.com, Hypios. Platforms with millions of users already, who do the same.

The difference between us and them is that all ideas are public on our application. Instead of hiding them from public view, we encourage everyone to vote and comment. Every person can bring a valuable skill. These applications range to more hand picked experts. You can’t just sign in and participate in the discussion within seconds, which you can do instantly with us and earn tokens. Our opinion is that the wisdom of the crowd brings better value. When you connect it with the business revenue, they keep following and staying with the business. If the business succeeds, so does their customers.


In green you objecting to yourself.
Regarding crowdsourcing  and crowdfunding you still didnt explained me why I cant use famous, millions of users crowdsourcing platform first and after, for crowdfunding I will use specialised crowdfunding platform. Both of them are specialising in what they do. Why I need 2 in 1 solution? Business development is not head washing where 3 saved minutes has any point. You dont do business that often  And I prefer my business will be on platforms which can give max outcome. Explain why are you better in crowdsourcing compared to the market leaders and why are you better in crowdfunding compared to the market leaders.


With us, your comment is worth something, and you get paid in our cryptocurrency. In fact, on average 10% of a company's revenue goes towards advertising. Are solution, is giving it directly to your customers and skipping these ad agencies, co create and share in the success. We gain the crowd first by offering salaries, then we move on to the others. When our users hold a lot of Yupies they then can reinvest this in our businesses and hold a security asset (% of revenue). We will mimic a real marketplace specifically for a deflation economy. That’s the vision of CH. Don’t think it as a 1 and 2 solution. It’s a road map where we enter these markets. First, we gain the crowd by offering tokens, so that they have tokens to later spend by funding and then buying products as mentioned above.

The facts you provide are inaccurate and not related to a point.
Majority of users in crowdsourcing are people with low income, doesn't matter which country they are located in. The earnings in crowdsourcing are compared low. Crowdsoursers are from the same segment as ICO bounty hunters. Are you seeing in them your potential investors? You think people who can spent all day spamming in facebook for few dollars, or testing a game in your case, can be effective investor?

If you want to oppose me, please provide me user behaviour research from your segment. (Actually its should be like “Must do” if you asking to invest 50M. in your business)

From your statement this means that majority of Quora users must be poor too, when in fact you look at these profiles of people that are up voted with top comments, they are unique professionals. Nevertheless, you make a good point. It will be crucial in our roadmap to target and bring in investors who want to own revenue of our businesses but don’t want to participate by commenting. Future features on our app, will let business choose specific users to be part of think tanks, who support them the most and show promise with exceptional ideas.. So both private and public tasks we see being built in the future.

Not clear why you have separated IT development and Team costs. Aren't product developed by a team?

Simple mistake here. Each department has it’s own budget. IT team is just our highest costs, that’s why we separated it. Will make sure to edit the WP. We are building everything in house from marketing, sales and development. This will be big for us in the long run because we can build capacity and be fast.

[phoenixdowndee]

Good afternoon, your company has very much interested! I will be very grateful, els you will study my article about CROWDHOLDING.
https://biznessweb.jimdo.com/crowdsale/crowdholding/

Thank you for the great article alinapavlovichcc! We are always happy when someone wants to help us spread the concept of Crowdholding.